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xx200xx · 08/09/2023 09:02

Hello, looking for advice.

I went to the pub the other day as I my was my child free night. I was sat at the bar a lot just talking to the people working there. Not flirting or nothing!! However the guy who worked there brought me to drinks I did say no but he insisted. He added me on Facebook but so did the other people that work there, I really didn’t think anything of it as there was nothing to think. However the guy who got me the drinks lives on my street so he walked back that way with me.

He the later proceeded to text me saying “I can’t believe your single, absolutely beautiful” and then carried on messaging. I was hardly replying back and the next day I said I’m really hungover and he was saying “awhhh maybe I should come and cuddle you” I ignored this and he messaged saying “you missed out on your cuddle”
However my phone was charging lastnight and I didn’t check it for a while and he sent a message saying he’s left a bottle of wine outside mine for me (he did). So I was saying please you really don’t need to do that and he was like next time it will be flowers. I have told him no and then he said well maybe a date… I have said I’m not looking for anyone as I have not long came out of a relationship etc. He’s telling me I’m worth the wait etc and it is making me feel uncomfortable. He don’t even know my age or anything really about me.

Just looking for opinions on this situation…. It is very weird isn’t it?? It was the wine part what freaked me out a little bit… there’s being nice and then there’s being to nice.

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TheGoodBanana · 08/09/2023 16:32

It makes me so mad that men think all women will be flattered by their attention.

OP I totally understand that you are trying to be nice and probably don't want to come across as rude, unfortunately blokes like this you actually have to spell it out.

If he messages again say I am not interested, your're the same age as my mum. Then block him.

The amount of situations I have ended up in by considering other peoples feelings before my own and of course always being kind. You did nothing wrong but it's time to be assertive. He is clearly a loser so not a bad thing if he is offended and ignores you!

MsRosley · 08/09/2023 15:27

xx200xx · 08/09/2023 11:36

I just tried finding out how old he is and someone commented happy 40th not long ago to him.

He don't look the old but now that's even more of a red flat because I'm in my early 20s and he's 3 years younger then my mum😬

He also said how he lives with his gran and was an alcoholic but now smokes weed. So to me it's all a massive red flag.

And there was me thinking he's a total catch 😂

Justaredherring · 08/09/2023 13:11

OP, I feel like people are telling you off a bit, which is slightly unfair but seems out of concern. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were trying to be sociable and now this dickhead has got in the way. What a shame. Look after yourself, learn from this, abd good luck with your next night out. Don’t let it put you off!

xx200xx · 08/09/2023 13:01

He works in there everyday so I can't just go in and return it. I would find that so awkward.

I just feel like it's classic narcissistic behaviour in a way, the start of it anyway...

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MariePaperRoses · 08/09/2023 12:13

Pushy and presumptuous.

All in the name of getting his leg over.

His dialogue and chat up lines are straight out of the book that those Turkish Love rats have read for the purpose of winning women over in order to bed them.

In other words he's a smarmy creep.

yellowsmileyface · 08/09/2023 12:11

I have a lot of compassion and do feel bad about stuff and take peoples feelings into consideration, but I need to learn to think of myself more and be more blunt

It's understandable if you're in your early 20s. I remember back then I'd feel so guilty if I rejected a guy and he gave me the hurt puppy look. I'd let them down easy and dress things up like "you seem really lovely but I don't think I'm interested in dating right now". The problem is some men will use any shred of niceness on your part as an excuse to keep harassing you.

After years of enduring being harassed I have no qualms about telling a man "can you fuck off and leave me alone".

CitizenofMoronia · 08/09/2023 12:11

Hey Mr Manager, just a heads up before you suggest Rapey Mcbarstaff walk any other unsuspecting customers home, this is what he is getting up to, I appreciate you thought you were doing a good thing having someone walk me home but you kind of set me up as serial killer bait... thanks ex-customer.

TooOldForAllThisNonsense · 08/09/2023 12:10

Block him on your mobile and on Facebook. Simple enough.

Ollifer · 08/09/2023 12:06

I'd send one last message stating firmly that I wasn't interested and not to come round to the house or leave anything from now on. Then I'd block.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 08/09/2023 12:01

Return the wine to his boss and hope for his sake that he paid for it.

ScottBakula · 08/09/2023 11:59

titchy · 08/09/2023 09:22

Maybe it's a generation thing but do young (I'm assuming you're very young?) women these days really go to bars and get pissed on their own? That to me does not exactly give off a 'leave me alone' vibe.

If you're going to do that sort of thing you need to be really really clear immediately someone starts trying to pull you.

At what point did @xx200xx say she got pissed ? And even if she did that gives this guy no right to expect her to want to go out with him.
Women ( and men ) should be able to go to the pub / restaurant wherever with out been harassed later

@xx200xx he is been a creep , I agree with pp you need to send a very clear blunt msg, I do not want to go out with you , please stop contacting me.
If you still have it put the bottle of wine on his door step with a note firmly taped to it saying you are returning his gift as you do not want it or any others.
If you meet him in the street be very cool towards him. Reply monosyllabicly if he speaks to you and don't divulge any personal info , or where you are going / will be back.

Minfilia · 08/09/2023 11:55

Smokes weed, alcoholic, doesn’t see his children and love bombs a complete stranger.

yep, run a fucking mile and then keep running!!

Thelnebriati · 08/09/2023 11:36

Sapphire387 · Today 10:36
'Hi, as I have said, I'm not interested in a relationship. Your messages are making me uncomfortable, please stop messaging me like this.'

Not bad but its too placatory - try;'As I have said, I'm not interested in a relationship with you. You are making me uncomfortable, don't contact me again.'

xx200xx · 08/09/2023 11:36

I just tried finding out how old he is and someone commented happy 40th not long ago to him.

He don't look the old but now that's even more of a red flat because I'm in my early 20s and he's 3 years younger then my mum😬

He also said how he lives with his gran and was an alcoholic but now smokes weed. So to me it's all a massive red flag.

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Namechange666 · 08/09/2023 11:26

Jesus a woman should be allowed to go to a pub on her own and not be harrassed or have to give off vibes!

This man is the one who has over stepped the boundaries.

You've done nothing wrong op. But definitely shut him down, block him. You don't have to worry about his feelings. He certainly trampled all over yours. If he doesn't piss off then tell his boss.

Thatladdo · 08/09/2023 11:24

Start with wine and flowers then its wanting to give you sausage.

Be firm and get him told.
Pretty arkward him living so close though 😬

xx200xx · 08/09/2023 11:20

Thankyou everyone for your advice! Luckly my neighbour has cctv and a ring doorbell facing straight on to my door so if anything was to get worse and I had to go to the police that could be some help.
Hopefully he does understand now and does back off.
I have a lot of compassion and do feel bad about stuff and take peoples feelings into consideration, but I need to learn to think of myself more and be more blunt

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Thelnebriati · 08/09/2023 11:10

I don't want to worry you, but I think you should keep all of his messages in case he refuses to take no for an answer.

titchy · 08/09/2023 11:07

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In an ideal world yes absolutely. Do we live in an ideal world? No we don't. And until creepy men no longer exist it is sensible that vulnerable women don't make themselves more vulnerable than they already are.

That's not blaming OP, or any other woman for their behaviour. That's encouraging women to be careful and take basic safety precautions, in the same way as if everyone drove perfectly there'd be no road accidents. But as everyone doesn't drive perfectly there are road accidents and therefore we wear seatbelts to try and prevent harm to ourselves.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 08/09/2023 11:07

Sapphire387 · 08/09/2023 10:36

'Hi, as I have said, I'm not interested in a relationship. Your messages are making me uncomfortable, please stop messaging me like this.'

This is a good message, followed by pp's suggestion to report him to the manager if he doesn't stop.

I also agree that you ought to be able to go to a local bar if you blooming well want to. It is unfortunate that this idiot was there.

One thing I noticed tho.

"I just felt so bad since he got me stuff and got a little worried about the back lash from it. I know I sound stupid."

You don't sound stupid at all. This is down to him. But I think we are conditioned to be polite and he knows this. His "gifts" - the two drinks, the walk home and the wine and promise of flowers - were all intended to put you under an obligation to continue communicating with him. I think we try to let people down gently so as not to be rude, as if being too blunt is impolite or offensive in some way. But its not. He's offending you. You don't "owe" him anything. You asked him to stop and he kept on. Its the same as the classic - I paid for dinner, now you owe me favours.
The fact that you were worried about the backlash shows you felt intimidated by this and worried that he would gossip about you. Like you felt you would be in trouble if you didn't co-operate. I think a lot of women feel like that... and its easy to see it clearly with hindsight but difficult to predict at the outset how far or how predatory the person is.

You are on this thread, asking for advice and taking steps to deal with this creepy guy, and finding out what precautions you can take to prevent it happening again, so don't call yourself stupid. Hopefully this will die down, and no harm done, it will make you more wary in future which in one way is a shame, but also will be an extra layer of protection.

xx200xx · 08/09/2023 11:07

FakeFool · 08/09/2023 10:52

Yes it's weird and creepy.

Unfortunately quite a few men are weird and creepy and are on the hunt for women who will tolerate their behaviour.

He will be chatting to his mates complaining about you accepting drinks, giving him your details, letting you walk him home then ghosting him. SOME men really are that stupid.

I know this is what I'm worried about a little. I didn't walk him home tho he walked that way and my house was before his.

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Whammyyammy · 08/09/2023 11:03

Very creepy and weird

MsRosley · 08/09/2023 11:01

He's a creep who wants to stick his dick in you. Tell him to leave you alone or you'll report him for stalking.

JudyGemstone · 08/09/2023 11:01

I’m so sorry that was on the wrong thread please ignore! Have reported

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