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newSchool1 · 07/09/2023 11:10

My DD just started reception and I’m really sad that she’s in a class with no friends. I know she will over time make friends but it’s really upsetting for myself too. From her nursery only 2 kids going to this school and all of them in the other reception class. All the parents seem to be closer to each and we’ve had a few events before starting school and as soon as the ones I was chatting to found out my child not in same class they moved onto someone else.

Today for example I was chatting to the lady I knew from before in nursery and another woman butted into our conversation and said to her “ you’re X’s mum? My dd was telling me they’re best friends now”. I was just standing there awkwardly so moved away, anyone I was getting along with had a child in the other class! The ones who do have a child in my class didn’t seem that bothered about meeting new people and didn’t really seem that keen to swap numbers etc. I feel really sad for my child plus myself! I’m feeling really low. Quite honestly I have no friends and it’s hard making friends as an adult. They all seem to be mingling and getting friendly why is it so hard for me? If my child was in sane class I would also have gotten to be in their little group! I feel so awkward doing pick ups and drop off

im going back to work soon so will not see anyone at pick up and drop offs.

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Goldfishonabike · 11/09/2023 08:41

Hugs, it sounds like you're struggling a bit at the moment? Perhaps the situation with your child's class is just feeling so much worse than it really is due to your general state of mind? I've also really struggled feeling like everyone in my DD's class were excluding us and friendlier with each other, and I've learned that the best remedy to that feeling is threefold: firstly, set up play dates with other kids who are a bit on the outside and who are thus also in the market for new friends, secondly, invest in your own well-being (counselling, exercise, eating well, reading good book,s nature walks, home spas, whatever your thing is) and your own friendships, perhaps there is someone you haven't been in touch with for a long time you could reach out to? Or a neighbour or someone else you could strengthen bonds with? Thirdly, focus on the happiness and bonding within your own little family, do nice family outings or bake together or play with your kids, crafting, etc.., just make your own little home a happy home, happiness attracts happiness!
Lastly, remember, this too shall pass, and before you know i, your child will be graduating and you won't even remember the wobbles in reception! Good luck

jamdonut · 10/09/2023 16:33

Some people will know each other if their children have older brothers and sisters, so they've known each other a while, or live in the same street etc.

I think it is far better (from a child's point of view) to be friendly with lot of children than seeking to have a "best" friend. That way if there are any fallings out, they can just pick up with another friend.

As for yourself...I don't know...I got by without being "mates" with other parents. I gradually got to speaking terms with some and my kids went to the odd tea at someone's house, but I didn't go out of my way to form friendships as such.

I'd try not to overthink it so much. then it will probably just happen one day.

Rottweilermummy · 09/09/2023 23:14

Aww it's hard when your child starts school and not many children from nursery or if starting senior from primary class are in same class. Fortunately for all mine nursery attached to school and only one reception class. but children make new friends quite quickly they can also fall out and change friends , someone mentioned joining pta if they have one, worth a try. Its still early days too, so don't worry. I'm guessing this is your first child starting school

Belle104 · 09/09/2023 23:06

With kindness - I think you're over thinking this too much. Parents of other children in your child's class don't need to be your friends, and I don't think it's the best way to find friends either. A friendship may develop along the way, but your child starting school is about THEM and not your social opportunities. Let your little one get on with it. My girl has been a year at school now. She joined a class of 14 kids she didn't know, along with her cousin and a boy from her nursery. By the END of the first year, after a good 9 months in the class, she was consistently talking about a group of 7 girls who were close (her and her cousin included). They've started a new year and still seem to be. I'm very awkward/shy/anxious socially if I'm honest. I struggle to recognise people's faces which is an issue, and also struggle to join in to people's conversations. But I'm getting to know some of the parents. It's about the kids though and not about me finding buddies. Wanting to have friends is very valid though and I'd suggests having a look for groups in the area that you might be interested in, hobby wise. And trust that your little one will work things out, they all do 😊 to help a little we did arrange a whole class party for their oct&nov birthdays to help them get to know the other kids, and then during the summer just past we had the group of girls over for a pool party. But school has only just gone back, give things time to settle and develop

Daisyleigh · 09/09/2023 21:26

Hi I fully understand I've just moved to a totally different area on the other side of the country with my baby and although i no its different I understand how over whelming and scary it can be when faced with other mums especially when you feel so alone

Ohgollymolly · 09/09/2023 21:15

Oh jeez, grow up would you?!

Your child will make new friends and you will then get to know their parents. I know lots of my kids friends parents but I wouldn’t say I’m friends with them all. Just acquaintances.

Organise a play date with your child’s new friends and try talking to their parents.

Kgiggl3s · 09/09/2023 20:30

When i first read this I won't lie I slightly rolled my eyes and thought this sounds more you feeling disappointed for yourself not making friends. You later go on to acknowledge you don't have any friends which, if true, really sucks and therefore makes it more reasonable as to why this was a big deal to you.

A friend of mine has joined an app called peanut which is for new mums to meet new mums. She has made a couple of now very good friends on there and is so happy with this. It may be worth exploring if a similar app exists for your circumstance. I hope you are able to meet some new friends OP but as a PP has said through school may not be the only option, you could join a club etc. Put yourself out there and be confident if you can

Milliemoo6 · 09/09/2023 19:40

I think you're totally over-reacting, it must be week 1 or 2 of the school year for you? Most kids go into reception not knowing anyone, it's normal. Your daughter also likely still see's her friends from nursery during the day anyway, most classes at the very least share break times. I think you're putting your own social anxieties onto your daughter, just let her get on with it. Most kids are great at making friends, and even if she doesn't for a while, that's fine too. Some children enjoy their own company, or like to play with lots of different friends. Let her find her own way for a while.

Downtherabbitholeyetagain · 09/09/2023 18:09

I have an adopted child, I'm older, most think I'm grandmother. So obviously not young enough or trendy enough for the majority of the school gate mums.
Not included in conversations, or socials, it can be very lonely, but as long as my child is happy, it's fine. Has to be.

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2023 16:38

@TheWrenTheWren

Sorry yes I had misunderstood! Makes sense now

TheWrenTheWren · 09/09/2023 16:28

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2023 16:20

@TheWrenTheWren

Well, I agree entirely, but for the people who see 'cliques' everywhere, operated by Mean Girls fawning over Queen Bees or Alpha Mummies who apparently have enough power to torch whole empires or conquer the world, but are apparently just using it to make everyone in the playground ignore the mousy new girl (who would totally end up with a posse of vampires and werewolves in love with her in the film adaptation), we don't see cliques because we are the cliques.

I’m sorry I just think in nine cases out of ten that’s projection. That may happen in isolated cases such as the one you describe.

But usually in these cases when you unpick what’s actually occurring it’s incredibly trivial. Someone didn’t smile at someone else at pickup. Or (as in this case) someone wanted to introduce themselves into a conversation that was underway. These are not cardinal sins.

Then people who are socially anxious feeli aggrieved at people who are socially comfortable and attribute this “Queen Bee” status to them to make themselves feel better about not being confident. Essentially making it someone else’s fault.

There is no entitlement to make friends through the school network. It can and does happen but it’s not a given. If other people have existing friendships that’s their right. It’s shit if your face doesn’t fit but it’s no one’s job to be your instant friend and you have to grow up and deal with it. Make friends elsewhere. I think it’s pretty shocking that so many grown women seem to think school is a hunting ground for friendships anyway tbh.

The reason this matters is that so many mums are passing on this weird sense that they are “owed” friendships at school to their children and projecting their anxieties onto their kids when for whatever reason it doesn’t work. It’s really selfish.

Your kids are there to make friends, not you. If you make them too it’s a bonus but it’s not the primary purpose of school. Make your own friends in an adult environment and let your kids get on in theirs. And teach them the social resilience they need.

I think you may have misunderstood me, @Thepeopleversuswork -- I agree entirely with what you and @totallyadhd are saying. What people view as 'cliques' is insecurity and some odd friendship scripts being projected onto other people's blameless busyness, preoccupation, or just talking to their friends.

Missesbrightside · 09/09/2023 16:22

Hey, well done on getting through those first few days & I hope things improve for you soon. I am in a similar situation- my son has started into P1 in a new school where 22 of the 26 all came from the same nursery and he knows no-one. Neither my husband or I are from the town we live in either. He’s missed his first week off sick, thankfully better now but I’m dreading Monday 😅

I too have cpstd. I just wanted to say, you’re not alone in your way of thinking. I hope to use it as a strength- we’ll be all over it when they need us the most! And to make the extra effort to put myself out there for my kid even though it’s hard. Some of the advice above from the other posters is really helpful. Best of luck with it all!

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2023 16:20

@TheWrenTheWren

Well, I agree entirely, but for the people who see 'cliques' everywhere, operated by Mean Girls fawning over Queen Bees or Alpha Mummies who apparently have enough power to torch whole empires or conquer the world, but are apparently just using it to make everyone in the playground ignore the mousy new girl (who would totally end up with a posse of vampires and werewolves in love with her in the film adaptation), we don't see cliques because we are the cliques.

I’m sorry I just think in nine cases out of ten that’s projection. That may happen in isolated cases such as the one you describe.

But usually in these cases when you unpick what’s actually occurring it’s incredibly trivial. Someone didn’t smile at someone else at pickup. Or (as in this case) someone wanted to introduce themselves into a conversation that was underway. These are not cardinal sins.

Then people who are socially anxious feeli aggrieved at people who are socially comfortable and attribute this “Queen Bee” status to them to make themselves feel better about not being confident. Essentially making it someone else’s fault.

There is no entitlement to make friends through the school network. It can and does happen but it’s not a given. If other people have existing friendships that’s their right. It’s shit if your face doesn’t fit but it’s no one’s job to be your instant friend and you have to grow up and deal with it. Make friends elsewhere. I think it’s pretty shocking that so many grown women seem to think school is a hunting ground for friendships anyway tbh.

The reason this matters is that so many mums are passing on this weird sense that they are “owed” friendships at school to their children and projecting their anxieties onto their kids when for whatever reason it doesn’t work. It’s really selfish.

Your kids are there to make friends, not you. If you make them too it’s a bonus but it’s not the primary purpose of school. Make your own friends in an adult environment and let your kids get on in theirs. And teach them the social resilience they need.

TheWrenTheWren · 09/09/2023 15:47

totallyadhd · 09/09/2023 13:13

Yesss!! Thank you! I feel like the people who go on about cliques are the ones that need to stop being dramatic. Nobody cares, people are just living their lives!

Well, I agree entirely, but for the people who see 'cliques' everywhere, operated by Mean Girls fawning over Queen Bees or Alpha Mummies who apparently have enough power to torch whole empires or conquer the world, but are apparently just using it to make everyone in the playground ignore the mousy new girl (who would totally end up with a posse of vampires and werewolves in love with her in the film adaptation), we don't see cliques because we are the cliques.

I mean, I was a total pariah at pick-up for the four years DS was at one school in a Midlands village, and it was mildly miserable, if I'm honest -- I've never in my life struggled to make friends, and I've moved around a lot. But it wasn't anything concerted. My face just didn't fit, in the sense that I was just a very different type of person to the kind of people who lived locally, and coming in as a foreigner and a working mother to an evironment where virtually everyone else had gone to school together and all but one of the other mothers in DS's class were SAHPs. It was no one's 'fault'.

zingally · 09/09/2023 13:17

Your DD can't have been in school more than a couple of days surely?! Give it time, and calm down.

totallyadhd · 09/09/2023 13:13

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2023 12:55

@tianabiscuit

I can't remember a time I found an environment as cliquey and bitchy as the gaggle of parents in a primary school playground. Many of them seem more immature that the small people they are dropping off.

This is exactly the sort of paranoia which feeds the insecurity that the OP is feeling.

It’s complete cooked up fantasy. Parents of small children simply don’t have time to give headspace to creating “cliques” in the playground. People are busy, tired and preoccupied with their own lives.

This isn’t a productive way to approach life and some of you really need some professional help dealing with this. You are the adult: stop modelling this nonsense to your kids.

Yesss!! Thank you! I feel like the people who go on about cliques are the ones that need to stop being dramatic. Nobody cares, people are just living their lives!

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2023 12:55

@tianabiscuit

I can't remember a time I found an environment as cliquey and bitchy as the gaggle of parents in a primary school playground. Many of them seem more immature that the small people they are dropping off.

This is exactly the sort of paranoia which feeds the insecurity that the OP is feeling.

It’s complete cooked up fantasy. Parents of small children simply don’t have time to give headspace to creating “cliques” in the playground. People are busy, tired and preoccupied with their own lives.

This isn’t a productive way to approach life and some of you really need some professional help dealing with this. You are the adult: stop modelling this nonsense to your kids.

totallyadhd · 09/09/2023 12:41

Let’s give people some grace. It’s so easily to think people are cliquey (how do you spell this word🤣??) or rude when really most of us are just trying our best or just trying to get on with our day without constantly worrying what people think.

Not everyone wants to make friends - that’s okay too. I agree with what other people have said, you should just relax. It’s perfectly normal to stand on your own, nobody is paying as much attention as you think. But if you really want friends you need to start some conversations and ask people questions. Don’t overthink it if they don’t feel like chatting, it’s most likely not personal. I personally don’t want to make any new friends but am happy to chat to people and be friendly.

I just think you need to focus on your daughter. At the end of the day that’s what you’re there for. And she will be fine. My little one didn’t have any friends from nursery when he started but he’s very confident and has loads now (a year on)

tianabiscuit · 09/09/2023 12:37

Honestly, drop your daughter off and then get the hell out of there. I can't remember a time I found an environment as cliquey and bitchy as the gaggle of parents in a primary school playground. Many of them seem more immature that the small people they are dropping off.

I tried to make friends, witnessed the pack scrapping across social media and decided I was better off out of it. I just nodded acknowledgements, said hi and then disappeared, whilst making the occasional observation that last week's clique now seemed to be standing in separate groups, no doubt poisoning minds again last week's besties.

The day my youngest was old enough to make the pilgrimage to and from primary school without me was a joyous occasion.

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2023 11:14

@CountessWindyBottom

Jesus, why are people so cruel?

Some of it is cruel and uncalled for.

But it’s honestly so frustrating to watch people bring their own neurotic approach to socialising to bear on their children’s social experiences.

Thid woman “butting in” is a complete piece of nothing. She was just talking to someone in the playground. It’s trivial and something to move past, not stew over and indulge.

The OP clearly struggles socially and I have some sympathy but she has a duty to not make this her kid’s’ problem. Kids pick up on this drama and overthinking of incredibly minor interactions and it’s damaging.

Do your kids a favour and learn not to hugely overdo these tiny trivial little things. If you find it hard, get help for it. But learn to separate your anxiety from your kids’ experience. This paranoid attitude to other people is something they will learn if you don’t get a handle on it OP.

Its difficult when you don’t know many people but it’s literally your job to ring fence the way you feel about this from your kids.

Cascade39 · 09/09/2023 10:46

My son has just started reception after having been with a childminder for the last 2 years. He doesn't know anyone in his class. I don't know any of the other parents.

My son will make friends at school. He is a sociable and likeable boy, I'm not worried about him not making friends. As for me, I don't care if I make mum friends or not. I have 15 and 13 year old DD's l, I did all the school drop offs and pick ups from them and I didn't make any mum friends through it. Don't get me wrong I've got a lot of the mum's on Facebook, and I'd have a chat with them while we were waiting to pick the kids up but we weren't the friends that socialised outside of school other than children's parties.

My best friend lived in Scotland for the last 8 years (I'm south east England) though she has recently moved back down. I have a friend who lives in Bristol and one in Norway too so I don't have friends to regularly hang around with, but tbh, I also don't really like going out that much. But my child being at school is an opportunity for him to make friends, not me, and it very much sounds like you are sad for yourself, not your child so for that I think YABU.

Mesoavocado · 09/09/2023 09:45

My child started P1 with 65 others and knew nobody. I moved to four different schools and knew nobody.
He and I just made new friends

Heyhoitsme · 09/09/2023 07:58

Your child will soon find new friends. I remember when my child started school I bonded with a grandmother who did the school run. All very casual. We chatted if we were standing near each other. There is no pressure for you to make friends.

Singlemumtoboy · 09/09/2023 07:29

Give it a few weeks and see who your daughter starts to mention as their new friend. Then try and arrange a play date at a local soft play/park
/activity with the mums through either a wee note, Facebook, in the playground. Hopefully they would be keen and then this can start a friendship.

class parties will also start flooding in and it’s a chance to chat to folk.

Cudjoe · 09/09/2023 00:01

Yeah life's shite, I have had to take my child out of her school that's literally a two minute drive away and put her in a school in a parish a half hour away.. we know nobody, she cries for her old friends and asks endlessly why her friends aren't coming. She doesn't understand she has a disability and our parish can't cater to us so.. life's shite.. total and utter shite..