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Work from home conflict!

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iwiwagahsahaf87 · 06/09/2023 09:39

I'm seeking perspective on if I'm in the wrong here.

My husbands employer allows staff to work from home if they chose with the option to go into the office. He choses to work from home. I work in the NHS and do shift work (12 hour days/nights/weekends). We live in a tiny flat, it is impossible to keep his work separate from home life.

I constantly hear all his calls, he works from the table in the kitchen/living room meaning if I want to cook/make a hot drink etc... I am in view and he has to turn off his camera and he gets annoyed. The line of sight from the table is direct through the living room door, the hallway and through to the bathroom door, meaning if I come out the shower and the living room door has been left open (our dog can open it) I am again in view. When I come off a night shift and am trying to sleep even with both the bedroom and living room doors closed I can hear his work calls. I can't relax in my own home and it is having a massive impact on my mental health I am being reduced to tears at this point . It's also been very damaging to our relationship we are constantly on top of one another and I really value my space.

I have brought this up over and over again and have asked him to go into the office on the days between night shifts. It always ends in a massive row. He claims I just want rid of him and don't want him around. I find this a very bizarre reaction as I have made it very clear that its the blurring between work and home life I don't like and the impact its having on my sleep and ability to relax in my own home.

He claims waking up early for the hour commute is tiering. I find this insulting as I am up early for my 12 hour day shifts. He takes massive offence to me simply asking for hybrid working as a compromise which I think is fair. He says I make him feel like s**t for making it clear I "don't want him working here" I have explained relentlessly that its not about him its about needing space at home and he literally storms off in a sulk. What an earth is the explanation for this reaction? I've asked for a compromise and he gets so defensive and accuses me of wanting rid of him...

He has been in a mood for days now because we got into a massive argument about it. He really feels sorry for himself as if I'm being cruel and unkind.
Is anyone else's partners like this. Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
MarkWithaC · 06/09/2023 17:31

No, you really aren't. In lockdown when the three adults in my household were all WFH, we were all at pains to keep noise to a minimum, discuss things like when we had a meeting/needed quiet time and where in the house was best to sit etc. No one huffed or argued if one of us had a delivery/we had the pest control man making noise in the kitchen when someone was on a Zoom meeting, etc. It's basic consideration and manners.

Does he generally listen and understand when you explain your POV over difficult subjects? If so then is there maybe something else going on between you, or with him?
What if you sat him down and said very explicitly that you are not understanding his reaction and seeming lack of comprehension about the issue, and asked him to help you understand?

ThinWomansBrain · 06/09/2023 17:26

why can't he sit with his back to the wall, so that all that's visible on camera is the wall behind him - and use headphones, so the only noise is him speaking at normal volume.
Stop tiptoe-ing around him - agree that it's not unreasonable for him to work in the office when you are working night shifts.

Why not rent hot desk space if there's anywhere near you?
I rent ten days a month - and I only need to avoid the cat stomping over the keyboard.

drunkpeacock · 06/09/2023 17:16

Well if my partner was doing something that was having a significant impact on my mental health, was aware of that and yet was completely unwilling to discuss that or make compromises, that wouldn't be a relationship worth keeping to me.

He's not willing to change anything so as pp have said that leaves you to make a decision:
Put up with it
Move out (either with or without him)
Change jobs

theemmadilemma · 06/09/2023 13:34

YANBU.

DH and I both work from home. Originally only I did, and worked from the dining room table in an open plan tiny house. It meant the kitchen and livingroom were essentially part of my office. When DH started WFH during Covid we realised how even with him upstairs in the spare room, having me in there just didn't work.

We moved and now both have our own offices and it works well. But it's not fair for your DH to WFH full time when it's taking over the whole flat and impeding on your downtime from work and sleep.

Pootle40 · 06/09/2023 12:47

He is lazy and selfish.

Throwncrumbs · 06/09/2023 12:45

People like this seem to think that when you work a night shift you ‘sleep’ all night. In my case, you turn up give out a few tablets to patients and then they sleep all night so you can get your head down which is furthest from the truth as possible. You need to stay awake all night one night and have loud conversation on your phone, play loud you tube tutorials, bang doors etc then say I’m doing exactly what you do when I’m trying to sleep after a night shift. He I a selfish twunt. When I worked nights one thing that stood out to me was my husband shouting at the kids to ‘ be quiet your mothers trying to sleep’ louder than the kids were!

Cowlover89 · 06/09/2023 12:43

Yanbu x

Delatron · 06/09/2023 12:42

Heronwatcher · 06/09/2023 12:30

Doesn’t the OP work nights and therefore need the use of the bedroom in the day?

if she works nights what do you think she may need to do in the day?

GingerIsBest · 06/09/2023 12:40

Lots of people (mostly men in my experience) who WFH, can be selfish and entitled. But this one is to a level I haven't yet seen and makes me wonder what else is going on? his response is the kind of response I'd expect from someone who is very controlling and, for example, expects you to tell him where you are at all times, doesn't like it if you go out without him (and/or will check on you if you do), has lots of opinions (mostly negative) on your friends and family etc etc etc.

readingmakesmehappy · 06/09/2023 12:36

If he's using Teams then you can add an artificial background that conceals what's behind you - this would ensure you'd be invisible or blurred behind him.

Heronwatcher · 06/09/2023 12:30

Reality25 · 06/09/2023 12:23

Or you know, just tell him to set up in the bedroom?

Not exactly a tough fix...

Doesn’t the OP work nights and therefore need the use of the bedroom in the day?

MoreOfADogPerson · 06/09/2023 12:29

Reality25 · 06/09/2023 12:23

Or you know, just tell him to set up in the bedroom?

Not exactly a tough fix...

The bedroom the OP is sleeping in after a night shift? Probably not the solution you seem to think it is.

NoSquirrels · 06/09/2023 12:29

I've asked for a compromise and he gets so defensive and accuses me of wanting rid of him.

Honestly, I would get rid of him. No kids, and no compromise- bin him, OP.

jeaux90 · 06/09/2023 12:28

Honestly the entitlement from him is rage inducing.

BoogieBoogieWoogie · 06/09/2023 12:26

Reality25 · 06/09/2023 12:23

Or you know, just tell him to set up in the bedroom?

Not exactly a tough fix...

....erm..come again??

Phoenix1Arisen · 06/09/2023 12:25

If by any chance your role is a medical one, say a nurse or doctor, his outrageous stupidity is potentially risking harm to other people, patients.

Would he like to have a vasectomy or prostate procedure carried out by someone too tired to work safely? No, I thought not!

Reality25 · 06/09/2023 12:23

Or you know, just tell him to set up in the bedroom?

Not exactly a tough fix...

BoogieBoogieWoogie · 06/09/2023 12:19

he needs to get himself to the nearest costa/office space (plenty of places offer it for the price of a few coffees) on those specified days and give you your home back.

Heronwatcher · 06/09/2023 12:16

Selfish narc alert! Does he really expect you to tip toe around him and listen to his tedious calls on your day off? Is he normally this selfish/ lacking in empathy.

Also he doesn’t have to go to the office, if he doesn’t like the commute he can go to a cafe or the local library. Sounds like he wants everything his own way and hang the consequences- what a dick. I’d be having a final chat with him and then suggesting counselling if he tries to emotionally blackmail you again.

Dustybarn · 06/09/2023 12:11

When I WFH I share a study with my DH and I used background wallpaper (from the standard Teams menu) and a headset. Your DP is being a self centered brat. If he wants to WFH full time you will need to move to somewhere with a second bedroom (additional costs to be picked up by him from all that money he is saving on the commute). In the meanwhile, background and headset are basic courtesy, or just replace the DP with a smarter more tech savvy person.

TenderDandelions · 06/09/2023 11:46

If the tables were turned and your work was preventing him from sleeping or there was a risk of him accidentally parading naked in front of your work colleagues, how would he feel? Bet he wouldn't like it.

If you were really petty you could start stomping around while he's sleeping and say "annoying isn't it??" when he complains.

PP post of you living in his workspace rather than him working from home really stood out to me.

Three points:

  1. Can he work from the other side of the table so his camera is pointed away from where you might be seen?
  2. Can you afford a bigger place where he could have a workspace in a second bedroom? (He'd still obviously have to reign in the volume of course)
  3. Tell him you can't live like this any more and you will be separating unless he starts respecting you.

YANBU OP

Cheeesus · 06/09/2023 11:38

As above, why doesn’t he at least sit on the other side of the table/blur the background and wear headphones so you can get on without being on camera and worry about being noisy?

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 06/09/2023 11:37

he works from home you don’t home from his work

he needs to go to the office

ZadocPDederick · 06/09/2023 11:35

I'm guessing you pay the same towards rent and bills as he does? If so, point out that that entitles you to a decent opportunity to sleep and use the entire flat in your free time.

Bananaanaana · 06/09/2023 11:32

I am assuming you are raising this in a kind and diplomatic manner. If so, why is he storming and huffing? This is the behaviour of an adolescent. Do you really want to be with a man who can’t communicate about something so simple? A practical solution would be for him to use a co-working space nearby. I agree with him that spending two hours each day commuting unnecessarily seems silly.