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“You are so lucky”

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SamAndEIIa · 26/08/2023 11:04

Does anyone else hate this phrase when actually, luck has nothing to do with the situation?

We have recently bought our forever home. I’m not being modest when I say it’s nothing spectacular - it’s a standard sized three bed semi. It was recently done up before we bought it - not to a high spec or anything (eg you can tell the kitchen is not of high quality, cheap appliances, etc) - but basically nothing needs immediate attention but we will need to upgrade some things within the next 5 or so years.

Our previous home was smaller and needed quite a bit of work; we stuck it out for a long time, allowing us to save enough to afford this house.

We have had zero financial help from anyone to get this house; and we have made a lot of sacrifices for many years to be able to afford it. We both work full time, we have worked hard to get “decent” jobs (we are not wealthy by a long shot) and we have a fairly large mortgage which we will be paying until retirement (unless our financial position changes of course)

AIBU to hate it when other family and friends constantly tell us how “lucky” we are - especially friends who earn the same as us and have chose to prioritise travel/social life for the past 10+ years whilst we have stayed in almost every weekend and maybe spent a few nights away in the UK every second year, whilst our friends have been to Bali/the Maldives/cruises etc?

Now I understand that some of this is luck, for example we have been healthy enough to work, we have had healthy children who don’t need extensive care etc, but the friends who are making these comments have been similarly fortunate, and actually have had family helping them financially with deposits/with free childcare, so actually are probably more “lucky” than us.

AIBU to hate people assigning “luck” to situations which are nothing to do with luck, and actually a lot to do with hard work and sacrifice?

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Poppysmom22 · 01/11/2023 17:45

Just say 'thank you we feel very blessed'. Or you could go with 'not really we are saddled with a huge debt until we retire and we've worked like dogs to get here'. I'm thinking you won't get many visitors in future if you go with the latter. Personally I count myself lucky if I manage to cross the road in one piece

OilOfRoses · 27/08/2023 00:04

Desecratedcoconut · 26/08/2023 13:15

Is it just me who wants a 'You Made Good Choices' Hallmark card option now? 😁

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One person's good choice is another person's bad choice. I wouldn't forgo all fun for ten years to get a house. I'd consider a more balanced approach better, even if it then took 15 years to get a house. I've seen people prioritise financial goals then die and miss out on all the living they planned to do later, so no thanks.

If I said, "you're lucky to find this house" I mean just that. You're lucky to find it. You could have not come across that particular property or found a house with a unique feature. It might not have been on the market at just the right moment. It doesn't mean I want your house. It doesn't even mean I like your house. Even if I think it's awful I'd probably say you're lucky to find it if you love it. It's your home after all and you have to be happy with it.

OilOfRoses · 26/08/2023 23:54

SamAndEIIa · 26/08/2023 12:29

Again, not lucky or fortunate to have the money for IVF - it took us 5 years to save for it; including borrowing some of the money; and we both had to take on a second job to do so.

You're lucky you are in a position to take a second job and you are lucky that you were able to save for it. I don't have that choice because I have a disabled child to care for. So yes, you're lucky that life has put you in that position. Not lucky to need IVF, I was lucky to never need that. We all have some luck in life, good or bad.

Goldbar · 26/08/2023 21:26

Desecratedcoconut · 26/08/2023 13:15

Is it just me who wants a 'You Made Good Choices' Hallmark card option now? 😁

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😂

SchoolQuestionnaire · 26/08/2023 21:18

SamAndEIIa · 26/08/2023 12:22

I said elsewhere - you might have missed it - these people aren’t immediate friends in my close circle or anything. One was a work colleague (hence me knowing how much they earn!) and visited on the guise of bringing a housewarming present - it just seemed nosey and off from the get go as they aren’t particularly people we would normally have visit.

The lamp in question had been in our previous house too; which again shows how infrequently they visited 😂

I said elsewhere - you might have missed it - these people aren’t immediate friends in my close circle or anything.

And yet they know that you have moved house and your new address within two weeks of the move.

I think the solution is simple here. Don’t tell people who apparently aren’t your friends (and who you don’t actually like) about your private affairs. Then they won’t be able to turn up at your door uninvited. And for future reference if they do turn up, you don’t have to give them a guided tour.

That being said, I’m still not convinced that they were being as snarky as you seem to believe.

toadasoda · 26/08/2023 17:32

@CaptainJackSparrow85 Ha! I was going to refer to the same quote but you got there first. Great life philosophy to have

CaptainJackSparrow85 · 26/08/2023 17:24

HillyHollock · 26/08/2023 17:06

Bad luck can make a mockery of hard work and savings as quickly as you can click your fingers

Well said.

Of course there is good luck/fortune involved. You are arrogant to assume otherwise. You've escaped ill health or a downturn in good fortune that nothing has jumped into your life to stop this achievement happening.

I really detest when people think they deserve their fortune, it is always fortuitous that you are still gaining and I have seen people floored by poor mental health (out of nowhere), poor physical health, a child born with special needs and a parent with crippling debts, all despite their own hard work and good efforts.

I am aware that my own fortune is good on the equivalent of a dice roll and not all to do with hard work and sacrifices made. Random obstacles have been surmountable and so all is well for now.

Long may you be so lucky.

Absolutely.

I’ve also worked hard in a job that’s frequently stressful and have a nice house with a big garden to show for it. I consider myself bloody lucky.

I always think of that line from Baz Luhrmann’s ‘Sunscreen’: ‘what ever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either – your choices are half chance, so are everybody else's.’

HillyHollock · 26/08/2023 17:06

Bad luck can make a mockery of hard work and savings as quickly as you can click your fingers

Well said.

Of course there is good luck/fortune involved. You are arrogant to assume otherwise. You've escaped ill health or a downturn in good fortune that nothing has jumped into your life to stop this achievement happening.

I really detest when people think they deserve their fortune, it is always fortuitous that you are still gaining and I have seen people floored by poor mental health (out of nowhere), poor physical health, a child born with special needs and a parent with crippling debts, all despite their own hard work and good efforts.

I am aware that my own fortune is good on the equivalent of a dice roll and not all to do with hard work and sacrifices made. Random obstacles have been surmountable and so all is well for now.

Long may you be so lucky.

Bethanbee · 26/08/2023 16:58

"You are so lucky" basically means "how lovely, I am pleased for you". Look for nastiness in pleasant phrases and you will be unhappy

ItsASnag · 26/08/2023 16:50

Haven't read the whole thread but wanted to say that I often say I am lucky when what I'm really saying is I'm grateful. I think if somebody is saying that you are lucky they may not be speaking about actual luck as much as to be pointing out (rather clumsily, because it doesn't suit you) that you have a lot to be thankful for, and they are pleased for you?

Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 26/08/2023 16:20

You're making yourself out to be a martyr.

There is a certain amount of luck involved though isn't there. You're lucky you didn't lose your job, become I'll, go through a breakup bla bla.

Soapyspuds · 26/08/2023 16:15

Body size, like wealth, is partly about luck. Of course, some people are slim because they have been very unlucky. But still, it’s not entirely about work/effort

Yes to an extent. But I think people do prefer looking for an excuse rather than admitting lack of effort.

ScooterTricks · 26/08/2023 15:47

I sometimes find large people tell me I am so lucky that I am slim. It is not luck but I do not correct them. No point really.

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Possimpible · 26/08/2023 15:42

@SamAndEIIa I posted a photo of the new keys on Facebook (no indication of where the new house was/what the house looked like/whether we owned or rented) and someone I worked with a decade ago messaged asking when the housewarming was 🙃

This could be an example of a totally normal, not particularly funny, jokey thing that people say. Like when you say you're going on holiday and someone says 'ooh take me in your suitcase!' or you go on a first date and someone asks if they should buy a hat. They don't really mean it, it's just shit people say.

It does sound like you have a chip on your shoulder - I mean maybe the one person you felt was making snidey comments genuinely was, in which case stop socialising with that person and stop telling them your business. But somehow all these people from your OP who you implied were somehow jealous went from spending all their money on travel so not having their priorities right, to all owning property regardless due to family money. In which case who cares if they travelled? It doesn't really make sense.

peasblue · 26/08/2023 15:29

I sometimes find large people tell me I am so lucky that I am slim. It is not luck but I do not correct them.

It's lucky if you have the physical ability to exercise and move, if you have no health issues that cause weight retention, if you have the money and knowledge as to how to eat healthily, and the mental ability to control what you're eating. Not everyone has those things.

GrumpyOldCrone · 26/08/2023 15:22

Soapyspuds · 26/08/2023 14:56

People say all kinds of crap to fill silences. It does not always mean anything.

I sometimes find large people tell me I am so lucky that I am slim. It is not luck but I do not correct them. No point really.

Body size, like wealth, is partly about luck.
Of course, some people are slim because they have been very unlucky. But still, it’s not entirely about work/effort.

Winterday1991 · 26/08/2023 15:21

You sound a bit odd OP. Just enjoy what you have.

You sound like you want to look down on those who have made different choices to you. I wouldn't be so smug, yes you may have a decent home now, but sounds like it has come at the cost of years of not having much fun or enjoying life very much.

JudgeJ · 26/08/2023 15:07

Bananaramad · 26/08/2023 12:00

Funny the harder I work the more I save the luckier I get 😉

When I started teaching my mother was told how 'lucky' I was by her neighbour and her reply was along these lines too! The neighbour's daughter, a few years older than me, had been to the grammar school but left at 15 as she didn't like not going out most nights.

ToWhitToWhoo · 26/08/2023 15:03

Usually it just means 'congratulations; how lovely for you'. After all, Jewish people often use 'mazel tov' (literally 'good luck') to mean 'congratulations'. Obviously, I don't know the people who are saying it, and, if they are saying it in envious or resentful tones, I could understand your being upset; but just the word wouldn't bother me.

Tiredalwaystired · 26/08/2023 15:00

Well, you were lucky to be born in a country or move to a country that has given you the opportunities to earn enough to buy a house, so that’s lucky. They’re not wrong.

But yes, as others have said this is a massive overthink as it’s shorthand for “how nice for you to have this lovely place”.

If it’s bothering you enough to feel it is worthy of a whole post on a social platform I will definitely say how lucky that this is your biggest problem though.

Soapyspuds · 26/08/2023 14:56

People say all kinds of crap to fill silences. It does not always mean anything.

I sometimes find large people tell me I am so lucky that I am slim. It is not luck but I do not correct them. No point really.

WarmButteryCrumpets · 26/08/2023 14:53

It's so funny that this thread is full of posters insisting that you are in fact lucky and also insisting this is just something you say which means the same as "how lovely" when your examples illustrate that it's not the same at all.

I think some people just can't accept someone else having better or equal circumstances to them. People tell me all the time I'm lucky that I "don't work". I bloody do work! But apparently being a writer and content creator doesn't count because it's something other people do for fun. Never mind that it's how I make my living...

ungryHippy · 26/08/2023 14:35

You could paraphrase Samuel Goldwyn's quote to reply to those who say you're lucky.

...Yes, the harder we've worked and saved the luckier we've got...

CantFindTheBeat · 26/08/2023 14:27

I agree with @HawnyThorn that in certain circumstances you can replace lucky with fortunate and it's more appropriate..

In the case of your friends, however, OP, where they have similar incomes, health and circumstances, that would irritate me too.

They should say 'I love it, well done, I wish I had your discipline'.

ZforZebra · 26/08/2023 14:26

Everything @Winter2020 said.

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