Eyebrows

They're beautiful @Bonfire23 😍

I'm a v pale haired redhead and mine don't look unnatural
In RL nobody ever asks if they're tattooed

😅😅 I'd love to! If you're anywhere near the midlands message me 😉

On all of these photos, I want the BEFORE eyebrows!

@ifyougochasingrabbits Please come and do them for me!!!

Yes you can with most artists

A lot of my clients do want a really subtle look and I am happy to do that for them

I have Botox and have for 6 years or so. Not one person has ever noticed, except to say I look well and don't have many lines. I've just now had my nails done and I'm having my very sparse lopsided eye brows micro bladed in September. I can't wait to not have to faff about with them in the mornings. Other than that I just wear a bit of concealer, bronzer and sometimes some mascara. The stuff I have just makes me look better with minimal fuss, so i actually see it as being low maintenance in a way .

i think what you do and what most people do, (including myself )is basic self care . Botox is big in the industry, and in my opinion some young girls absolutely don’t need it and start too early . We havnt come from that generation and the pressure is definitely on, what with all the selfies and social media . On more mature wrinkles it can and does help , without going overboard and looking frozen . What I think is overdoing it and starting way to young are the fillers . There can be some disasters there , as in pillow face .

That, again, is subjective @Tourmalines
I can see where I sit in the grooming hierarchy. I have friends who do zero grooming apart from the odd hair cut. To them I am probably over groomed. I definitely take more time and trouble over my appearance than them. So it is always fascinating to me to learn what happens further up the grooming scale to me.

I'm not judgemental. But I admit it worries me that many women take so much time and trouble to erase signs of aging for example. I have talked to my 25 year old daughter about this, and she says contemporaries of hers are getting Botox. And that it's hard being young and feeling the pressure not to age at all. I seem to have skipped that feeling of pressure and am very grateful. But if a woman can deal with it, fair do's to her

How do you equate grooming for perfection.? Surely it’s more for self pride and confidence. You do you, let other people do what they want . And yes, you do sound judgmental.

Ok that's clear. No limit. Keep striving for perfection - nails, brows, smoothness - because you'll never get there; there's always more to do.

Well, you tell me? I’ve already stated my opinion.

Don't think I'm judging either @Tourmalines
But you don't think it's possible to over groom and I'm genuinely fascinated to know in that case when enough is enough.

No, I don’t think overgrooming is subjective. It’s pretty basic. Surely if you don’t choose to have Botox , that’s your choice. Some do .Where did I point out it’s a necessity . I’m not the one judging on here, like some .

Subjective though isn't it? What is or isn't overgrooming.
I think I'm quite well groomed. Great teeth, floss every night. Pedicures. Not manicures though. Regular trims of long hair (which luckily hasn't gone grey yet at 57). I stay fit and slim. And shape my own brows. But no Botox or tweakments. So by your measure I'm probably not very well groomed!

@explainthistomeplease personal grooming is the act of looking after and caring for one’s appearance, as in trimming nails, looking after hair and skin, teeth , shaving , trimming, etc . I don’t think it’s possible to over groom surely? Having gel nails fits that category, same as maybe getting some lovely looking micro bladed eyebrows as opposed to having none . Maybe a tiny bit of Botox to get rid of frown lines . All perfect good grooming.

Oh I do, they just grow at light speed. Within a week I'll be finding rogue hairs curling up or backwards or god knows what.

I feel like I spend half my life spoolie-ing and trimming and trying to gel them into submission. I'm going for embracing the chaos and hoping curly brows come into fashion soon.

Buy yourself a little eyebrow scissors and then use a spoolie to comb them out and trim off the wild excess.

@WhatNowBarry you can ask for whatever you like, just make sure you look at the artist’s previous work so you know they are on the same page as you. (If you’re based in London/Herts way I can recommend someone). And speak to your practitioner- when I first spoke to her she said she had clients who wanted the big bushy look and clients that wanted more natural, or more skinny brows etc, and after discussing the pros and cons would happily provide the look they wanted.

i had mine done a few years ago as I lost 1/2 of one eyebrow due to stress/thyroid issues and it never grew back. Despite being naturally pale skinned my eyebrows are quite dark so I looked very odd with 1/2 a bald brow (typically the fat end towards your nose).

They looked so much better micro bladed, and meant I didn’t feel the need to faff with brow pencil every morning, I don’t wear make up on a daily basis so I’m pleased I can just wash my face and go.

I had them colourfilled yesterday, as after 2 years they’d faded (weirdly the most faded part was the bald bit!) and I was having to draw them in again. As of this morning they are going through the super dark/sharpie look healing stage, but I’m not worried as of course they’ll fade in the next few weeks and go back to looking natural. Aside from when they’re healing they look great (imo!) and when it’s come up in conversation no one has realised they aren’t real.

Anyway I shall merrily skip into my eye trio appointment this morning and get my white blonde lashes and brows tinted and look and feel fabulous when I leave the salon!

Unlike people with naturally dark hair who dye it blonde and have the same look I suppose 🙄

I was going to clarify my views and belief that the OP was referring to OTT examples of powder brows etc, as opposed to more natural examples with a bit of gap-filling/definition, but as nameitagain appears to be the expert on both brows and the OP, will leave it to them.

Can you ask for almost nothing?! I mean, I have very sparse eyebrows and would love to get mine filled in nicely, but I want the very slightest effect so that they look normal when I'm not wearing make-up, and I can still fill them in a bit with eyebrow pencil when I want them more noticeable with make-up.

They look fab! Ignore the haterzzz

I do like a nice shaped brow though.
I'm not a fan of lamination.