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Pull out bin cupboard

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WongWifi · 16/08/2023 03:52

I’m putting this here for traffic.

Currently designing a new kitchen but remain undecided about those pull-out bin cupboards.

  • If you have one, do you like it or is it a bit of a bother?
  • What are the things you like/dislike about them?
  • Do you recommend I have one?

AIBU - you gotta have one!
AINBU - don’t do it!

I’m at a loss so any input/advice would be great. Thank you so much!

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brainstories568 · 19/08/2023 08:59

VinEtFromage · 17/08/2023 21:35

@brainstories568

thank you for your post.

to add to my dilemma is the fact I don't really like dishwashers, I find they ruin things over time, so I'd rather hand wash most stuff anyway.

all I really want is a dirty dishes cupboard! So I can hide bits in the day! 😜. My hot water comes through too slowly (routed through the bathroom first) & so wastes a lot of water before it's hot or I'd just wash up as I go. I don't have a utility so the kitchen sink gets used a lot so I can't 'hide' the dishes in the sink either.

True but particularly with a slim line one you have to be fairly picky about what you put in it unless you want to run it everyday. We've always washed pots/pans etc by hand (and still do) but it was a fantastic addition to a small kitchen where you couldn't hide anything, meaning it was great to be able to dump general crockery in and just turn it on every other day overnight.

When I lived in a studio flat in Finland it had a cupboard above the sink which was a drying rack (so the water dripped down into the sink) which I mostly used as a "dirty plate hiding area" as I didn't want to wash up a single plate etc at a time and there wasn't any other storage as you were supposed to wash then put in the drying cupboard. They were really commonplace over there but I haven't really seen them in the UK. Have you got space to do that then you could get a bin too??

VinEtFromage · 17/08/2023 21:35

@brainstories568

thank you for your post.

to add to my dilemma is the fact I don't really like dishwashers, I find they ruin things over time, so I'd rather hand wash most stuff anyway.

all I really want is a dirty dishes cupboard! So I can hide bits in the day! 😜. My hot water comes through too slowly (routed through the bathroom first) & so wastes a lot of water before it's hot or I'd just wash up as I go. I don't have a utility so the kitchen sink gets used a lot so I can't 'hide' the dishes in the sink either.

VinEtFromage · 17/08/2023 21:10

Globules · 16/08/2023 15:08

Ooooh. This looks a game changer. What do you love about it? How often do you need to clean the inside of the lids?

@Globules

inside of lid depends whether you empty it quickly enough or not, I didn't, so had to clean it loads.

as per my previous post, I don't like it at all for the situation I was in, but if you're happy emptying it daily, it would be fine.

Another reason I didn't like it was that I'd never use it without bin bags (like they do iIn their video.) so I used a load more bin bags than I do at home. Single use plastic. Urgh. Way too much hassle to take the containers to the inconvenient outdoor bin & then have to return them to the house and wash them out. Urgh.

VinEtFromage · 17/08/2023 21:04

@jeaux90 just goes to show how different we all are, I just spent a month living in a house with one of these and hated it. Especially the recycling, I found it FAR too small & I found the recycling unit annoying they way it pulls right out and does its own thing instead of being stopped like a drawer.

it might not be too small if you like emptying ut daily & your outside bin isn't in a very inconvenient place. I found I was just piling recycling around it until I could be bothered with the hassle of taking it to the outside recycling bin.

same with the bin part really. Drove me mad how small it is.

and didn't like the opening/closing but if that either.

glad you like it though because they're not cheap

VinEtFromage · 17/08/2023 20:56

Floralnomad · 16/08/2023 12:48

My sister has one and I loathe it , definitely wouldn’t have one in my own house ,

@Floralnomad

why do you loathe it?

some older designs were pretty awful, having to open the main door then pull the bin holder out etc, but the newer ones where you pull out a drawer are great.

brainstories568 · 17/08/2023 16:07

VinEtFromage · 16/08/2023 08:07

I'm redoing my kitchen, but I can't extend or knock through, so it'll still be tiny. So I can have either a slimline dishwasher OR a pull out bin.

can't decide...

tgere is nowhere else to put either!

upthread someone was complaining about having to pull open the cupboard & then the bin. You don't, if you buy the ones that have them fitted to the door/drawer.

think carefully about the configuration. My friend has one that has one large for waste & 3 small, which might work if any of them could put the recycling in the correct bins! But they can't, so the 3 small ones end up a mix of paper plastic glass🙇🏻‍♀️

if I go for hidden bin, I'll go for 2 bins as large as possible (won't be huge as only 40cm space).

but then the dishes have to sit on the work top. 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

Slim line dishwasher. We ended up completely redoing the kitchen in our old house so it could fit in a slim line dishwasher. Best kitchen decision ever even though we sold the house about 18 months after doing it - we said we were unsure whether we'd take the dishwasher on the moving forms (incase the new house didn't have one) and the couple who were buying the house said they'd buy it as a stand alone item if it was because it was relatively new (and offered us more than we'd paid for it) but we said they could have it included in the house price. They were expecting a baby and wanted the dishwasher much more than they wanted a bin. The comprise of getting a dishwasher was that we had a REALLY small kitchen bin (under the sink) as there was no floor space even if we'd have wanted it on the floor, but they didn't even comment on that aspect.

GreenMonstersParty · 16/08/2023 20:17

Wouldn't be without ours. Worth every penny. We got the biggest 2 bin compartment Howdens did & thoroughly recommend

Globules · 16/08/2023 18:53

jeaux90 · 16/08/2023 18:06

@Globules I love the way it looks and the capacity of all 3 compartments.

Really easy to empty, and you can get replacement parts if needed.

I only ever need to occasionally wipe the inside rim and top opening.

When I empty the food caddy I sometimes need to pop in the sink for a wash (biodegradable food sacks so not a lot of mess)

Really helpful. Thank you very much.

Butteredtoast55 · 16/08/2023 18:41

Love ours. It has four sections and we use three for recycling and one for general waste. This section takes a standard large swing bin liner so doesn't fill up especially quickly. We put fresh composting waste straight into the outside green bin.
It's one of my favourite features of the kitchen and I'd definitely recommend it.

MagpiePi · 16/08/2023 18:34

I’ve got a cupboard bin but the door is hinged at the bottom and it tilts open. It is some very expensive make - Haefle?? and costs a ridiculous amount new but I got it for £5 off ebay. It’s about 1 foot x 18” x 18” deep.

I prefer it to a freestanding one - none of that cleaning the lid. It doesn’t smell. The only thing is I have to use the large black waste sacks as liners and they’re only about half full when the bin is full.

tt9 · 16/08/2023 18:18

it's a must! and get one of those magic Corner cupboards! they are magic!

jeaux90 · 16/08/2023 18:06

@Globules I love the way it looks and the capacity of all 3 compartments.

Really easy to empty, and you can get replacement parts if needed.

I only ever need to occasionally wipe the inside rim and top opening.

When I empty the food caddy I sometimes need to pop in the sink for a wash (biodegradable food sacks so not a lot of mess)

WongWifi · 16/08/2023 17:45

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 16/08/2023 17:02

Love mine, it has two really decent bins in it. I take the point of a previous respondent who said they were too small, make sure they are a decent size. I also have a waste disposal.
The only other consideration is mine takes up a 60cm base unit, not a problem for me because my kitchen is big and I don’t lack cupboard space but my younger son has a petite kitchen and in my opinion it takes up valuable storage for him however he has a dog and likes to keep the rubbish where she can’t disturb it.

My kitchen will be mid-sized. After reading the comments here, I've requested the kitchen man to include the bin cupboard in the plans and will see how much room it does take up before finally deciding.

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Lovepeaceunderstanding · 16/08/2023 17:02

Love mine, it has two really decent bins in it. I take the point of a previous respondent who said they were too small, make sure they are a decent size. I also have a waste disposal.
The only other consideration is mine takes up a 60cm base unit, not a problem for me because my kitchen is big and I don’t lack cupboard space but my younger son has a petite kitchen and in my opinion it takes up valuable storage for him however he has a dog and likes to keep the rubbish where she can’t disturb it.

WongWifi · 16/08/2023 16:03

I just realised I wrote shoot instead of chute! How awfully embarrassing. Not sure what I was thinking (clearly I wasn’t!).

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Peony654 · 16/08/2023 15:26

We just bought a Brabantia pull out bin and installed it in an existing cupboard, was much cheaper than the 'bin cupboards' sold by the kitchen company. It is nice having it tucked away

CointreauVersial · 16/08/2023 15:18

Love ours! Especially as now we have to separate our rubbish into recycling/refuse/paper there just wasn't anywhere sensible to have a massive row of bins. These are neatly hidden away.

We have a pull-out rack with two medium-sized rectangular bins. The refuse one at the back lasts all week; the recycling at the front we probably empty every couple of days (paper bin we keep elsewhere).

The bins came with lids, but we ditched those pretty quickly. The cupboard door keeps any whiffs at bay (and no food goes into them anyway - we have a countertop caddy for that).

Agree it can be tricky to open the door with grubby hands, but I can manage pretty well with a little finger/elbow.

Globules · 16/08/2023 15:08

Ooooh. This looks a game changer. What do you love about it? How often do you need to clean the inside of the lids?

RelativePitch · 16/08/2023 12:52

Just had our kitchen redone. We have a pull out bin, 2 bins in the compartment. It's brilliant.

Floralnomad · 16/08/2023 12:48

My sister has one and I loathe it , definitely wouldn’t have one in my own house ,

WongWifi · 16/08/2023 12:45

Thank you so much to all for your input! Vast majority are clearly in favour.

I should have mentioned that I do have a garbage shoot in the kitchen area but we use that to throw the daily rubbish at the end of the day. It’s rather small so will fit a small supermarket bag full. Not sure if that makes any difference though.

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WongWifi · 16/08/2023 12:38

Globules · 16/08/2023 06:30

Don't do it.

Currently awaiting my new worktop to be fitted in my new kitchen, that I didn't get a pull out bin for, so I've recently gone through this myself.

This is my third new kitchen in 7 years. XH insisted on pull out bins in the previous two. Far far too much of a faff. They fill up far too quickly. You have to pull on a cupboard, often with dirty hands, to access it. It makes putting something tiny in the bin, like a tissue, a real event. Open cupboard, pull cupboard...get my drift? You can't just pop something in the bin.

In both the previous 2 kitchens, I ended up putting the proper sized bin back into the kitchen. The pull out ones got on my nerves so much.

This is what’s worrying me.

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Wannabegreenfingers · 16/08/2023 11:17

I have one. It has two compartments. So normal rubbish and recycling. Each section is the same size as a stand alone bin. Neither section has a lid, but the draw has a built in shelf, so no smells waft around. I absolutely love mine and would never go back to stand alone bins in the kitchen.