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Made MIL cry?!

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Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 10:16

I have always had a clash with my MIL because I find her controlling and she often tries to undermine me. My DP (8 years) sees her every day in the morning and she was telling me that she sometimes makes him a packed lunch 🙄 I said he is a 43 year old man I'm sure he can organise his own lunch, she said "yes but me I love my son" (emphasising with her voice that it must be in contrast to me).
I began to lose my temper a little so I said "do you warm some milk for him too?" and she said "listen it's simple, I am the first woman of his life", and I said "true but I will be the last".
Then she started crying and ran out of the room.
Now DP is saying that was insensitive of me because she lost her husband 6 years ago.
I am considering telling him he needs to deal with this situation and tell his mother to back off.
What do you think? In case it's relevant we are all from the same non UK European country

OP posts:
Mirabai · 12/08/2023 14:24

Onelifeonly · 12/08/2023 14:21

"OP is not coming across as unpleasant, she’s coming across as having a backbone that a of women on MN could do with."

There's having a backbone and there is having a nasty tit for tat argument that is never going to convince the other person and makes the whole situation worse.

OP could show backbone by calmly letting her MIL know her comments are hurtful (though in this case, she started the problem by complaining about MIL making the lunches), not by attacking her back in an unpleasant way.

They’re not hurtful, they’re just irritating and there’s nothing wrong with OP reminding a MIL that she’s not actually married to DH even though she’s trying to behave like it.

DaisyAndDonaldDuck · 12/08/2023 14:24

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 14:21

Everybody is obsessed with the lunches. It's not about the lunches. It's about what came after the lunches discussion.

It sounds like you’re both just rude tbh 🤷‍♀️

Inkpotlover · 12/08/2023 14:24

Onelifeonly · 12/08/2023 14:21

"OP is not coming across as unpleasant, she’s coming across as having a backbone that a of women on MN could do with."

There's having a backbone and there is having a nasty tit for tat argument that is never going to convince the other person and makes the whole situation worse.

OP could show backbone by calmly letting her MIL know her comments are hurtful (though in this case, she started the problem by complaining about MIL making the lunches), not by attacking her back in an unpleasant way.

she started the problem by complaining about MIL making the lunches

Nope, she just pointed out to MIL he was capable of making his own. Except I doubt he is. He sounds like a massive man-baby.

pinkyredrose · 12/08/2023 14:23

FigTreeInEurope · 12/08/2023 10:34

Just a stab in the dark, but is she italian?

My thoughts too! Or Greek.

willWillSmithsmith · 12/08/2023 14:23

Hooplahooping · 12/08/2023 13:48

I don’t think universally - I’d be mortified if someone described me so! I love my dad - - but It feels infantilising and would deffo give me the ick for someone to identify me like that.

I’ve heard many women (albeit usually rich ones) say they’re a ‘real daddy’s girl’. No man would actually say I’m a real mummy’s boy.

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 14:23

who loves him most and who can prove it through the means of packed lunches

Which is why I don't make him packed lunches

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Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 14:23

Mammajay · 12/08/2023 14:17

How does it hurt you that she does packed lunches for her son??

Exactly.

Onelifeonly · 12/08/2023 14:23

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 14:21

Everybody is obsessed with the lunches. It's not about the lunches. It's about what came after the lunches discussion.

Which wouldnt have happened if you hadn't said he could make his own lunches.

pictoosh · 12/08/2023 14:22

Have to say, I can't see what was sooo heinous about the comment OP made, the one about being the last woman. Some of you are taking grave offence to it but I'm not sure why?
MIL: I was here before you.
DIL: And I will be here after you.

What of it?

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 14:21

Everybody is obsessed with the lunches. It's not about the lunches. It's about what came after the lunches discussion.

OP posts:
Mirabai · 12/08/2023 14:21

willWillSmithsmith · 12/08/2023 14:18

Maybe he’s tiring of OP and her drama llama behaviour.

It’s the mother who is the drama llama with all her “I love my son” and “I am the first woman in his life” I mean it’s literally Oedipus/Hamlet/Brazilian soap opera.

Onelifeonly · 12/08/2023 14:21

"OP is not coming across as unpleasant, she’s coming across as having a backbone that a of women on MN could do with."

There's having a backbone and there is having a nasty tit for tat argument that is never going to convince the other person and makes the whole situation worse.

OP could show backbone by calmly letting her MIL know her comments are hurtful (though in this case, she started the problem by complaining about MIL making the lunches), not by attacking her back in an unpleasant way.

dutysuite · 12/08/2023 14:21

If my MIL wanted to make my husbands lunch I wouldn’t be standing in her way. One less job for me…not that I do or would do it anyway. Really wouldn’t bother me and if it makes her happy then what’s the harm?

Inkpotlover · 12/08/2023 14:21

Mammajay · 12/08/2023 14:17

How does it hurt you that she does packed lunches for her son??

Read her OP again! The issue is not the sandwiches, but the dig that followed.

AlexandriasWindmill · 12/08/2023 14:21

You're not in a competition to see who loves him most and who can prove it through the means of packed lunches. Grow up.

MIL didn't say she loved him more. She said she loved him as a mother does. You were then petty and passive aggressive with your milk comment, before basically saying she's going to die (with an implication that you can't wait because then you'll have your DH all to yourself). You can't make deliberately mean comments and then whine when your mean comments upset someone.

luladebulachops · 12/08/2023 14:20

OP it sounds like you were really rather unkind.

Stop taking the bait, the MIL will get bored.

It seems your partner is between a rock and a hard place.

I'd defend my mum over my partner in this situation.

Inkpotlover · 12/08/2023 14:20

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 14:14

Except that MiL only mentioned the packed lunches in passing - it was the OP who criticised and escalated it with snotty comments. So you could just as well ask should MiL sit there and be mute while the OP takes pot shots at the fact that she sometimes does a nice thing for her son.

Yet another poster conveniently overlooking OP's opening statement that she's put up with eight years of digs from his mum inferring she's a shit homemaker and doesn't look after her son. It's amazing how you all know her MIL better than she does.

I wonder if the responses on this thread would be different if it wasn't a sandwich. If it was 'my MIL says she occasionally washes my DP's underpants when he goes round every morning and when I said he could do it himself, she said it's because she loves him.' 🤷🏻‍♀️

momonpurpose · 12/08/2023 14:19

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This comment says far more about you then the op

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 14:19

Mirabai · 12/08/2023 14:15

No, not just for him for the good of his relationship. If he doesn’t enact boundaries now his mother will become more enmeshed, more demanding and more dependent as she ages.

Why ? Just because she sometimes makes him a packed lunch ? Why does he have to enact ‘boundaries’ with his own mother, when all she’s done is shown a bit of love and care - just to please his partner ?

Mirabai · 12/08/2023 14:19

willWillSmithsmith · 12/08/2023 14:14

Sometimes you just need to go on a charm offensive. Countries have to do it with one another all the time so they don’t go to war with each other. She’s his mother not OP’s work colleague, backbone doesn’t come in to it. She knows what the MiL is like so OP needs to take a different stance. It’s not as if the MiL actually lives in OP’s house, it can’t be that difficult to put on a bit of charm and diplomacy to keep the peace.

What? Why is on OP to form a charm offensive, MIL is not her mother. DH and MIL have an enmeshment problem and that’s for DH to sort out not OP.

MN is a forum full of confrontation-averse, peace-keeping, people-pleasers.

fluffi · 12/08/2023 14:18

OP you need to ignore and rise above what you perceive to be digs at you. ... MIL saying she wants to do nice things for her son, e.g. make packed lunches isn't that strange. And she is technically correcrt with the "first woman of his life", so it was completely unnecessary to respond in such a spiteful way. If you don't learn to roll with the punches then its very big assumption that your relationship will survive for you to "be the last" regardless of MIL behaviour.

If you said what you said to my mother, and you wouldn't apologise you definitely wouldn't be the last woman. Blood is thicker than water.

Also its not for your DP to "deal with" the situation. Either you can tolerate the family dynamics in a civilised fashion, because they won't change or should reconsider if this family situation is right for you.

willWillSmithsmith · 12/08/2023 14:18

Mirabai · 12/08/2023 14:15

No, not just for him for the good of his relationship. If he doesn’t enact boundaries now his mother will become more enmeshed, more demanding and more dependent as she ages.

Maybe he’s tiring of OP and her drama llama behaviour.

DinoRoar14 · 12/08/2023 14:18

Mirabai · 12/08/2023 14:15

No, not just for him for the good of his relationship. If he doesn’t enact boundaries now his mother will become more enmeshed, more demanding and more dependent as she ages.

Boundaries are personal.
So if he's happy and his mother is happy he doesn't need to form or hold any boundaries with her.

Youwho2 · 12/08/2023 14:17

You come across as very obnoxious. This seems like a bit of a power play. You're trying to assert yourself and show MIL whose boss. You want DP to sort out his mother. It's his problem, and you won't be apologising. You are creating the problem. You don't need to challenge everything. It's like you're looking for a demonstration from your DP. I think you are going to be disappointed. I'd be surprised if you're this man's last love. I wouldn't stay with someone who was rude to my mum or tried to alienate me from my family.

Mammajay · 12/08/2023 14:17

How does it hurt you that she does packed lunches for her son??