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Cat has hurt the postman - help!

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rainbowsweets · 11/08/2023 10:40

Apologies as I have already posted this to the litter tray but I need quick advice as in a bit of a state right now.

I heard a bit of a commotion when the post was delivered this morning. I found the cat hanging on to the letterbox, and looked outside to see the postman with a bloody hand. So the cat scratched/attacked him when he was putting the letter through.

I couldn't go out as I was on a work call, but I feel very guilty and worried. I feel bad for him, but I don't know what to do - do I call RM and apologise?

Could I be in trouble for the cat's actions? Or can the cat be in trouble or PTS for being vicious?

I will have to lock him away from the door every morning I suppose (if they don't cancel the delivery) as I don't think a cage will fit on the door to shield the letters.

Advice appreciated.

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Willyoujustbequiet · 13/08/2023 08:02

Cucucucu · 11/08/2023 11:09

He cannot , cats are allowed to roam , not like dogs who need to be under owners control .

He could. Cat owners have a duty of care under common law.

Cases are rare but still possible.

JaukiVexnoydi · 13/08/2023 07:10

I think people are being unfairly critical of @rainbowsweets

I don't think there was any obligation to open the door or apologise - she could have been out at the time and totally oblivious to the incident. Cats can be left alone obviously.

There is no need for any postal worker to put their hands through a letter box. The letters go through, fingers stay outside.

No harm in putting up a "beware of the cat" sign but any delivery worker who is not a total noob learned not to put fingers through doors in their first week on the job. Fingers in doors where dogs live get much worse than this.

YankeeDad · 13/08/2023 06:58

Too bad it’s a different person every time. Otherwise you could have offered the postie a pair of these.

Cat has hurt the postman - help!
Fuckitletshavevino · 13/08/2023 02:46

It will have been reported to the health and safety officer at the DO, you may have a visit from them or a letter. I would suggest a postbox on the wall or even attached to the front of the door. Everyone that delivers to you will be made aware of the situation from now on to avoid this happening again

Screamingabdabz · 13/08/2023 01:37

Thatbloodyhedge · 11/08/2023 20:43

Worlds gone mad
Postman gets scratched
Boo hoo
The end 🤦‍♀️

You have no care or regard for people being hurt in the course of their job? Shameful.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 13/08/2023 00:17

I just wanted to come on and say I'm amazed and cross by the bashing you are being given, when you've explained so many times what happened and that you regret it. Please ignore all these nasty comments.

If he'd had a real problem he would have rung the doorbell. And despite the IV antibiotics, cellulitis et al., in the real world people are scratched and bitten all the time by their cats and are perfectly fine. I remember getting puncture wounds both sides of my wrist one time my cat got really eggy with me... nothing that some well rubbed in Savlon couldn't handle.

It's possible they carry a rudimentary first aid kit to cover incidents like this, anyway.

What I'd do now - wait for the post person the next day and explain to them and apologise/ ask their advice. Once you have a name, go to the local place you pick up missed parcels etc. with an apology note and chocs or something.

Welcometothehumanrace · 12/08/2023 22:45

Not sure where this myth comes from about trespassing! Posties are not allowed to leave mail sticking out of letterboxes and must therefore use hands or postal stick to get mail into the house if letterbox is stiff. If they do not know there is a hazard then using fingers is acceptable.

Case in point : Royal Mail wins appeal over Ipswich postman dog bite www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-58010953

"A postal worker in the position... is not a trespasser as a result of putting their fingers through a letterbox."

Article relates to a dog but point is it's not trespassing. You are very much in the wrong. The man was just doing his job, nobody should be harmed doing so.

WidowedMum · 12/08/2023 22:14

JusthereforXmas · 11/08/2023 20:13

Its NOT in the course of everyday employment. They are NOT allowed to put their hands in people houses SPECIFICALLY for this reason. If he goes to his boss he is admitting he did his job wrong. OPs pet is secure within the bounds of her own house. I imagine you would be one of those ridiculous people who try to sue the shredder company because at work you where stupid enough to shove your finger in it.

Exactly this! They have whole courses about dog bites and avoiding them as it happens so often. If the postman reports it there will be a procedure to follow like the letter a PP received but probably nothing more unless it happens again.

Yes, OP should’ve gone out but it was a split second decision and she could’ve just as easily not been home so no point going back over it now.

Ella5678 · 12/08/2023 22:05

If the postman's hand enters your property it's classed as trespass I know because my grandparents dog bit postman and he tried to sue and get dog destroyed and they said he wouldn't of got bit if his hand didn't come through letter box so nothing came of it.

QueueEtwo · 12/08/2023 22:00

' Always up for a cat pic. The blood…not so much!'

Here's the culprit! I don't have a picture of the blood splattered bathroom!

Cat has hurt the postman - help!
Danielle9891 · 12/08/2023 20:40

What about one of them cages that go over your letter box or an outdoor letterbox? We've just had to get an outdoor letter box as our cat likes to rip up the letters and grab the postman's hand.

LuckyPeonies · 12/08/2023 20:32

@rainbowsweets As you have a different post-person every day, I would not attempt to contact RM nor acknowledge this further. Just prevent the cat from doing it again. Perhaps, in addition to the velcro bag, you could install a warning sign to not put hand in flap due to “playful cat”.

Zanatdy · 12/08/2023 20:30

Trevorton · 11/08/2023 10:50

Yes this. A friend of ours got bitten by his own cat and ended up in hospital with sepsis or cellulitis. Sorry can’t remember which but he was in hospital a good week or so with IV antiobiotics. Don’t mean to alarm you OP but cat bites can be nasty.

colleague of mine nearly lost his finger due to a cat bite (his own, he tried to stop it falling out of the window)

Toomuchtrouble4me · 12/08/2023 20:29

I hate cats.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 12/08/2023 20:08

Hummingbird89 · 12/08/2023 14:30

@PinkSparklyPussyCat nobody is going to put a cat to sleep for scratching someone in their own home. For gods sake 🙄

I know that, I wasn't saying it would be 🙄

Did you read the post I was replying to? The poster seemed to think OP was wrong for worrying about her cat more than the postman.

dearJayne · 12/08/2023 19:57

My friends post got delivered to the sorting office because her cat was a shit to the postman and he'd had enough.

The cat was put to sleep eventually after multiple attacks on their neighbours, neighbours children and their pets.

JMSA · 12/08/2023 19:45

Is this really the first time something like this has ever happened?

BetterWithPockets · 12/08/2023 19:42

OP, sorry you’re getting such stick on here. FWIW, I think we’ve all been in situations where we’ve had to make a split second decision and we don’t always make the right one. I’m not saying it’s okay but I do think it’s an occupational hazard for Royal Mail staff. When a friend’s dog attacked their postman/woman, they got a letter from RM saying they wouldn’t deliver any more unless steps were put in place to prevent it happening again. That was the end of it. Good luck. X

Hatty69 · 12/08/2023 19:17

Apologies, I haven’t read past the first few pages, but could you create a waterproof box to sit in the ground by your door, clearly marked ‘post’ with a slot in the top?

MonumentalLentil · 12/08/2023 19:06

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 11/08/2023 19:00

Where you shaking and crying while you wrote that?

Probably screaming.

Prescottdanni123 · 12/08/2023 19:01

My dad is a meter reader and he was issued with plastic tongs so that he didn't have to put his hands into the letter box. Posties should have this as well. Rather than just using bare hands and then complaining when they get bit. A dog or cat's home is its safe haven and it is natural that they are protective of this. They don't understand that it is just someone delivering mail. At the end of the day, I wouldn't like a stranger poking parts of their anatomy into my house if I didn't understand what they were doing, or if they were a threat or not.

Hummingbird89 · 12/08/2023 18:53

Susiefish21 · 12/08/2023 18:16

Just realised someone suggested a wire basket, that's a good idea and if someone from Royal Mail comes to your house you can show them you have acted to the incident.

This thread is INSANE 😂 as if Royal Mail will turn up at her house? What do you think they’re gonna do? Kick her door in and confiscate her cat?? They have zero power to do anything. This is one of the most batshit threads I’ve ever read here.
OP, read @Autumn245 post above-sensible advice from someone who’s done the job.

Mygosh · 12/08/2023 18:52

Have you borrowed by cat op? My very large cat got into the routine of hearing the bleep from the postman's signature pad thing and running for the letter box. I never thought it would end in injury, but one day I came home to blood all over my front door. The postman knocked several days later and asked if I had a dog. I was very apologetic and promised to get an outdoor mail box which fixes to the wall. It all turned out ok, please don't worry yourself, your cat will be fine. Just ensure you take steps to prevent this from happening again as the royal mail can refuse to deliver to you. My cat still insists on greeting the postman if he knocks. I have no idea why as he hates other people knocking on the door!

Cat has hurt the postman - help!
Autumn245 · 12/08/2023 18:51

Hello postwoman here! I've been attacked by a cat before. I didn't put my fingers through the letterbox but the cats paw came out as a opened the flap and it's claws got me. I bled for 10 mins but was fine other than that. I reported to managers who added the cat to the hazard list for that route so other posties would know. Next time I delivered there I used my posting peg.

Maybe if you see the postie again then ask if he's OK. If you cant get a cage for mail then maybe you could put a sticker on letterbox to warn of said cat?

glammymommy · 12/08/2023 18:40

Bake some biscuits and take them to the local sorting office, they'll know which postie it was.