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Namechange50008 · 06/08/2023 19:10

I've just learnt apparently one per cent of the population is a psychopath.
But generally not in the film way (e.g American Psycho) but in an actual mental health way (e.g high impulsivity/low boredom threshold/egocentric/superficially charming/liars).
There's the Hare Checklist which I've got really into.
But what it boils down is that they don't seem to feel emotions.
I can't comprehend this - I get angry and sad and anxious and all the emotions - and am fascinated. One per seems huge.
Does anyone think they know a psychopath? Genuinely? This isn't an AIBU BTW. I'm honestly just really interested.

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alexdgr8 · 06/08/2023 19:17

i know of someone who might be.
it's hard to know.
at first i thought he was being funny, or striking a pose, or being ironic, or something.
but it has become clearer over time, he is as he presents.
he is highly suspicious of everyone, thinks every profession is a con, that he knows as much, could do it himself.
he never consults or seeks advice on anything.
doesn't inform others of things that affect them.
doesn't care. does what he likes. very domineering, at times intimidating, overbearing in manner.
expects to be obeyed.

never apologises. no self-reflection. no accountability.

My Aunt was married to a Psycopath, she commit suicide. His actions after made us realise who he really was, a lot of what you describe is like him.

Justaddalittlespice · 06/08/2023 21:12

CharlotteStreetW1 · 06/08/2023 21:04

Yes. Pretty sure my late sibling was. Pretty much on all 20 counts.

Not violent at all and fabulous company, I still miss them very much. Ironically the person they hurt the most was themself.

Most psychopaths aren't violent I don't know why this condition is always wrongly portrayed in media where most people think psychopaths are violent or serial killers its just not accurate.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 06/08/2023 21:12

CharlotteStreetW1 · 06/08/2023 21:04

Yes. Pretty sure my late sibling was. Pretty much on all 20 counts.

Not violent at all and fabulous company, I still miss them very much. Ironically the person they hurt the most was themself.

When I say "hurt", I think "damaged" would be a better word.

Anyway, on a lighter note, when anyone yawns in our office, any subsequent yawners will declare they're "not a psychopath!" in a very childish manner 😁

Runninghappy · 06/08/2023 21:09

This whole thread leaves me feeling cold. The gaslighting, the feeling you’ve lost your mind. Lying to your face when you both know it’s a massive lie, and the lie is ridiculous. But you still question it as you lose your mind. The grand public gestures. The look in the eye that means trouble. The rage and anger from nowhere. Never taking responsibility for anything. Knocking anyone over to get to the top.

BarbedButterfly · 06/08/2023 21:08

My ex was a sociopath and now in prison for an awful crime. Was always something off about him, no empathy etc. He was diagnosed during sentencing and described as a danger to society. Biggest clue for me was that he sincerely believed social rules didn't apply to him.

Motorcycleemptyness · 06/08/2023 21:05

CapEBarra · 06/08/2023 21:00

All these descriptions sound just like Boris Johnson!

  • The superficial charm
  • The constant lies
  • Manipulative
  • Compulsive liar
  • Cheating, intimidating, impulsive
  • Low boredom threshold
etc. etc.

It would be interesting to see how he scores. He probably is a psychopath.

I used to work with someone who had very little empathy for others. I truly would not like to be married to this woman, that’s for sure! If I heard she murdered someone I would not be surprised in the slightest. Even thinking about her leaves me absolutely cold and it’s been years since I’ve seen her! I wonder if she was a psychopath in a diagnosable sense? Would be interesting to find out! (And then I’d go into hiding because… omg).

Justaddalittlespice · 06/08/2023 21:04

CapEBarra · 06/08/2023 21:00

All these descriptions sound just like Boris Johnson!

  • The superficial charm
  • The constant lies
  • Manipulative
  • Compulsive liar
  • Cheating, intimidating, impulsive
  • Low boredom threshold
etc. etc.

I would imagine all prime ministers would score high on testing for psychopathic traits

CharlotteStreetW1 · 06/08/2023 21:04

Yes. Pretty sure my late sibling was. Pretty much on all 20 counts.

Not violent at all and fabulous company, I still miss them very much. Ironically the person they hurt the most was themself.

Saoirse82 · 06/08/2023 21:02

I think its closer to 3%. Yes, I know 1 for sure. Another 2 I suspect may have psychopathic tendencies but I'm they might just be narcissists lacking in empathy. Neither is diagnosed.

It's a scale, so not entirely black and white. The psychopath I know is incredibly charming, but the mask eventually slips. My ex terrorised me, he was a violent psychopath and is in jail now for abusing women. He had a formal diagnosis. But was the most charming person I'd ever met initially. They are frighteningly manipulative and I'd always considered myself strong and worldly but this guy was something else, it took me years to recover from our relationship.

CapEBarra · 06/08/2023 21:00

All these descriptions sound just like Boris Johnson!

  • The superficial charm
  • The constant lies
  • Manipulative
  • Compulsive liar
  • Cheating, intimidating, impulsive
  • Low boredom threshold
etc. etc.
Justaddalittlespice · 06/08/2023 20:58

Most psychopaths are usually quite successful in life, high up in business and they don't care who they step on to get there and are usually highly intelligent so if anyone doesn't think they know one look at your bosses, ceo ect you might be surprised

FlappyBirdsGone · 06/08/2023 20:58

I got 13 on the hare test and that feels a bit too high for my liking!

Earhell · 06/08/2023 20:57

I'm pretty convinced I know someone who was a psychopath. I'm also pretty sure he's in jail now, although I can't say for definite. Last time I saw him the police had caught up with him and two extra charges were added. I didn't realise I was in such a vulnerable situation until afterwards

xsquared · 06/08/2023 20:54

alexdgr8 · 06/08/2023 19:17

i know of someone who might be.
it's hard to know.
at first i thought he was being funny, or striking a pose, or being ironic, or something.
but it has become clearer over time, he is as he presents.
he is highly suspicious of everyone, thinks every profession is a con, that he knows as much, could do it himself.
he never consults or seeks advice on anything.
doesn't inform others of things that affect them.
doesn't care. does what he likes. very domineering, at times intimidating, overbearing in manner.
expects to be obeyed.

never apologises. no self-reflection. no accountability.

I could have written this about the person who I suspect is a psychopath.

On top of your list, I'll add:
Always the victim if something goes wrong, or someone else's fault.

Expects you to drop everything to focus ok them. Once I was on my way to a funeral and told them it wasnt a good time to talk and that I had family around. They hung up after telling me to "Just forget about me."

Highly manipulative and uses emotional blackmail to get you to acquiesce to what they want from you.

Zero empathy for others.

If you call them out on how their behaviour hurt you, they will gaslight you first to deny it happened.
When you remind them and pin the exact moment, they will have conveniently forgotten about it or tell you it was ages ago and that you shouldn't still hold a grudge, when it only happened the last time you saw them.
Then they'll tell you actually yoi deserved it or you're only complaining because it was a guilty pleasure for you. He tried to rape me ad when I said no, he drove recklessly to frighten me.

I was so confused with the extremes of his behaviour and was going round in circles, having the same conversation every time, but having read up on aspd, I now realise far too late that I was being gaslit and being fed word salad. He made my life a living hell and I suffered from nightmares years later.

He still had the nerve to write to me years later to declare love and how he is sorry a.f sad to have lost a good friend and the only woman he loved.

Fuck off and die leave me alone.

Midnightfeasts · 06/08/2023 20:51

He also has like a 'glib' way of talking if you get what I mean. He can talk about anything and sound sincere and genuine at first. Then the next day or whatever he will completely have forgotten what he has said. It was all just meaningless crap.

Changeychang · 06/08/2023 20:48

Yes, not diagnosed but definitely a Psychopath. He was charming, would lie constantly, believed that he deserved the world, had zero remorse or guilt. Was adept at feigning emotion to get what he wanted but it would later become apparent he hadn't felt anything at all. I was with him for a long time and nearly lost my mind due to the constant gaslighting. He'd groomed me from a teenager so I hadn't known any different :(

thecatinthetwat · 06/08/2023 20:48

The superficial charm is the best way to spot them. After that, watch and wait, because sooner or later you will catch them. They will talk about something difficult/traumatic/unpleasant in exactly the same casual way they would talk about the weather, but with just a tiny bit of pleasure/interest/excitement. It’s just totally ‘off’ and then you can’t unsee it if that makes sense. I’ve met several. They are so charming at first.

Midnightfeasts · 06/08/2023 20:47

Also a compulsive liar. He will say anything to impress someone. He doesn't seem to realise that when people find out he has been lying they will want nothing to do with him.

Midnightfeasts · 06/08/2023 20:44

I know a sociopath. Was telling me about taking his driving test and how he never gets nervous about anything.

Testina · 06/08/2023 20:27

Love people deciding that the yawning / oxygen / psychopath things are FACT and referencing TV shows as evidence 😆

ooooohnooooo · 06/08/2023 20:22

The not yawning = a psychopath thing is absolute nonsense. A myth.

My child doesn't catch yawns, ever. She's 8 and I've not once seen her do it (and I've tried to get her to do it a lot, sneakily!).

She's just autistic and doesn't pick up on other peoples social cues. She feels ALL the feelings though (including empathy by the bucketload!).

Catusrusty · 06/08/2023 20:12

HappyJoyousFree · 06/08/2023 19:45

I read somewhere that a psychopath doesn't yawn when someone yawns in front of them. Apparently because the reason we yawn is to intake a large amount of oxygen when our breathing slows/shallows which is why it's associated with tiredness/boredom. When you see someone yawn Apparently your brain panics there's a lack of oxygen and also takes in a large amount through yawning. Because psychopaths are reported to lack empathy (not caring if you're going to suffocate) they don't have the same response. This of course could be absolute twoddle but I secretly hope it isn't so I can dramatically yaw at people and see what their response is - off to Google!

I don't think the reason yawning is contagious is yet fully understood by science is it?

The last thing I listened to about it said the latest theory is that it is a social cue to ensure group cohesion.

Many animal groups show contagious yawning so I don't think it's related to lack of empathy in humans at all. I can make my cat yawn by yawning and he is definitely without empathy

Thereshegoesagain · 06/08/2023 20:11

Jon Ronson - The Psychopath Test (non fiction) is a brilliant book, the first chapter is a bit weird but after that, I couldn't put it down.

StressedToDeathhhh · 06/08/2023 20:11

I taught a child who was a sociopath which i think is similar. Well, the Ed psych said she couldn't doagnose him as such at 10 but he had a the hallmarks - anti social personality disorder she called it. He was incredibly manipulative, very very charming and a compulsive liar, exceptionally intelligent and literally zero empathy or emotion. He was only 10 and he scared the shit out of me, the nastiest cruellest person I've ever known, worse than my abusive ex who was in his 40s. Only child I've ever ever met in all my years of teaching who I KNEW was beyond any help