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Enough Food

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LaGiaconda · 05/08/2023 18:01

Have been out at work today.

The job involves a lot of being on my feet, lifting, carrying, walking round the building. Suspect I put in several miles in an average day.

I had a not huge breakfast at 7.30 am, I had a sandwich and some fruit for lunch but arrive home tired and hungry.

Partner, who had been at home all day, announced proudly, 'It's going to be a vegetarian supper tonight.

They had got out some rice noodles and had chopped up a bit of veg - peppers, carrots, cabbage.

There was no source of protein - eg chicken, prawns, bean curd.

I said, 'It's not going to be enough.' (No dessert on offer)

They got really huffy and sulky 'I don't know what's got into you etc.'

Would you find that enough?

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KimberleyClark · 06/08/2023 10:54

Snoken · 05/08/2023 18:40

As a vegetarian it sounds like a very typical meal, but I might have included some egg and cashews. Vegetable stirfry is a perfectly acceptable meal in my opinion.

Halloumi is great in a veggie stirfry.

kitsuneghost · 06/08/2023 10:50

I woul have just thrown some nuts over it. Then had a snack later if I was still hungry.
Perhaps you should have made a better lunch.

bellac11 · 06/08/2023 10:39

PromSeason · 05/08/2023 22:24

@GarlicGrace

I eat a vegan diet and easily get 45g of protein a day, (without protein powder) and thats a bit more than what I need probably. I’d have thought eating meat it should be even easier to do.

Thats fairly low, I assume you weigh around 8 stone or so and are short and young?

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 06/08/2023 10:39

SleepingStandingUp · 05/08/2023 22:39

yes but not as the main meal of the day after a long week of work

Her partner was cooking and clearly fancied veggie stir-fry with noodles, which is a perfectly normal evening meal. If OP was still hungry afterwards, there was presumably nothing stopping her from making herself a snack.

I've read hundreds of threads on here where women have cooked dinner and their partners have complained - the response has always been "the cook decides - they can cook for themselves/sort themselves out if they're not happy".

It's interesting that so many people feel that doesn't apply here. OP is an adult and more than capable of making extra food if she wants it.

bellac11 · 06/08/2023 10:32

GarlicGrace · 05/08/2023 22:12

That's true as far as it goes, @JanesBlond. But I worked mine out the other day. Despite eating a hefty carnivorous meal most days, I'm coming in short of the 50-60 grams I need to average. I've bought a protein shake powder (tastes of hay with added cocoa). I actually think people don't attach enough importance to protein.

Someone doing a job like @LaGiaconda DEFINITELY needs a lot of protein, most likely somewhat more than the RDA for their weight.

Also - alongside fibre, protein is what makes us feel 'fed' and satisfied. When our bodies need energy, they make us wants carbs because that's readily-available calories (energy). If you're genuinely getting enough full-spectrum protein, you're much less likely to crave too many carbs.

I am a nutrition bore Blush

Me too and threads like these unfortunately just show how many people just dont understand their nutritional needs or how to calculate them

A previous poster which I replied to seriously overestimated the amount of protein in the veg and noodles and this is why people think they have enough protein

I dont think theres any conicidence that a society who eats very high carbs and low protein is generally overweight/obese. People are craving food all the time because they're not getting enough protein in

phoenixrosehere · 06/08/2023 10:25

WhichEllie · 06/08/2023 01:13

Yes, I’m quite surprised at how many people don’t seem to know this.

I eat a high protein, low carb diet so if I eat something low protein and high carb, like what’s described in the OP, I feel crappy afterwards because my body isn’t used to the blood sugar spike and crash. Not only do I get hungry again right away, but I also feel lethargic and tired once my body burns through the quick hit of sugars/carbs.

It depends on the carb and the person.

I have a carb/veg heavy diet with light protein but the carbs I eat are fiber rich not refined (white bread, white pasta) and don’t spike my blood sugars. They keep me full longer than eating high protein/low carb. High protein makes my stomach feel heavy and I’m usually hungry 90 minutes after.

Luxell934 · 06/08/2023 09:48

Can't wait for OP to come back and say "oh by the way I'm a man, partner is a woman" and just watch the backpedaling unfold. Popcorn at the ready.

Looking at OPs previous posts she is a woman, unless it's a reverse.

AvengedQuince · 06/08/2023 09:15

The OPs posts don't suggest that they don't cook balanced meals themselves or that their partner struggles with constipation

ohtobeme · 06/08/2023 07:46

Perhaps the partner was being passive aggressive?

Perhaps OP usually cooks meat heavy meals that leave the partner feeling crap ( and struggling to crap)

tt9 · 06/08/2023 01:46

are you saying you don't live off ginkgo nuts and The Force like the rest of us? shame on you

lol if I had done that much physical activity, I would get hungry if not properly fed. definitely a big protein containing meal and dessert needed.

when I do oncalls (7-8 miles walking in a bug hospital plus very physical job) - I eat at least 2000 calories that day and loads of protein. and often will indulge in a take away on those days.

maybe pre-prep some extra bits for yourself so you can supplement your dinner eg. marinated meats etc.?

WhichEllie · 06/08/2023 01:13

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/08/2023 21:07

I thought it was well established that eating protein is a good way to feel full after eating without having the big spikes in blood sugar that can come from filling up on non-complex carbohydrates.

Yes, I’m quite surprised at how many people don’t seem to know this.

I eat a high protein, low carb diet so if I eat something low protein and high carb, like what’s described in the OP, I feel crappy afterwards because my body isn’t used to the blood sugar spike and crash. Not only do I get hungry again right away, but I also feel lethargic and tired once my body burns through the quick hit of sugars/carbs.

AvengedQuince · 05/08/2023 23:37

itwasntmetho · 05/08/2023 22:52

Do you live there or is it partners home?
if you live there surely you wouldn’t need dessert to be offered?
in my house I would open cupboard, take out nuts, eat nuts. Open fridge, take out yogurt, eat yogurt. Open fridge take out cheese, cut some off, eat cheese.
It’s irrelevant what you’ve been doing all day you’re still an adult and responsible for yourself, nice that your partner is including you in a meal they are making, it doesn’t need to cover every food group though because you are an adult and capable.

I think it's important to know if there is a mismatch of effort involved. If the OP makes a decent meal for their partner when it's their night to cook then they should expect the same without having to take responsibility for themselves. If they make a similar effort then fair enough!

muttsandjolts · 05/08/2023 23:16

Add a fried egg on top- 2 mins, sorted

Yoloohno · 05/08/2023 23:15

I do a similar job and day, I can understand the frustration but honestly just get a snack.

Mine went to top up shop today and my tea tonight had no sandwich as he forgot to get a loaf of bread and all I had was mouldy bread rolls.

Itsnotrightbutitsok · 05/08/2023 23:06

itwasntmetho · 05/08/2023 22:52

Do you live there or is it partners home?
if you live there surely you wouldn’t need dessert to be offered?
in my house I would open cupboard, take out nuts, eat nuts. Open fridge, take out yogurt, eat yogurt. Open fridge take out cheese, cut some off, eat cheese.
It’s irrelevant what you’ve been doing all day you’re still an adult and responsible for yourself, nice that your partner is including you in a meal they are making, it doesn’t need to cover every food group though because you are an adult and capable.

Yes exactly.

If OP is still hungry afterwards he can make himself a snack.

itwasntmetho · 05/08/2023 22:52

Do you live there or is it partners home?
if you live there surely you wouldn’t need dessert to be offered?
in my house I would open cupboard, take out nuts, eat nuts. Open fridge, take out yogurt, eat yogurt. Open fridge take out cheese, cut some off, eat cheese.
It’s irrelevant what you’ve been doing all day you’re still an adult and responsible for yourself, nice that your partner is including you in a meal they are making, it doesn’t need to cover every food group though because you are an adult and capable.

GarlicGrace · 05/08/2023 22:41

So did I, @PromSeason! I was wrong, though. If I were eating my preferred diet of a lump of quality meat every evening, or even every 2 days with a few other proteiny bits in between, I'd be golden. I don't because of budget, effort and variety. I'd wildly overestimated the value of eggs, they average a measly 6-10 grams.

I can't eat dairy or pulses any more, which must be what's made the difference. Pulses can go fuck themselves anyway afaic, but NO CHEESE!!! 😭😭😭

SleepingStandingUp · 05/08/2023 22:39

riotlady · 05/08/2023 21:15

I’m so surprised by how many people can’t fathom a meal without protein! Like do you never just have a lazy bowl of pasta or some toast?

yes but not as the main meal of the day after a long week of work

SleepingStandingUp · 05/08/2023 22:38

lljkk · 05/08/2023 21:04

Protein is not especially calorific, what's the obsession with protein about?

Just say "Wow thanks! That was great... I just need a top up..." and make yourself some bagels with cream cheese or tuna mayonaise. Those would be calorific.

just lie because adults can't handle the truth?

AvengedQuince · 05/08/2023 22:33

riotlady · 05/08/2023 21:15

I’m so surprised by how many people can’t fathom a meal without protein! Like do you never just have a lazy bowl of pasta or some toast?

I would if I'd had dinner at lunch time, like a Sunday roast, then I'd have something small and simple for supper. I would usually have my main meal in the evening though, so if I'd had a light meal at lunch then I wouldn't eat similar for dinner.

AvengedQuince · 05/08/2023 22:25

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/08/2023 20:40

'Just add' cashews, chicken, prawns, egg etc etc - all assume that these things were there to be added.

Exactly, it's the job of the person cooking to plan the meal, popping out for suitable ingredients if necessary

PromSeason · 05/08/2023 22:24

@GarlicGrace

I eat a vegan diet and easily get 45g of protein a day, (without protein powder) and thats a bit more than what I need probably. I’d have thought eating meat it should be even easier to do.

Onnonotagainhuh · 05/08/2023 22:19

If I was the cook, I'd be offended that you weren't politer/more grateful about me cooking for you.

It I was the worker, my answer would a) depend on portion size. I could be filled up with veg stir fry easily if the portion was decent. And b) why I didn't eat a decent breakfast and decent lunch. I would prioritise breakfast if I was doing physical work. You can't expect your partner to mind read that you hadn't eaten much all day, that's your responsibility.

GarlicGrace · 05/08/2023 22:12

That's true as far as it goes, @JanesBlond. But I worked mine out the other day. Despite eating a hefty carnivorous meal most days, I'm coming in short of the 50-60 grams I need to average. I've bought a protein shake powder (tastes of hay with added cocoa). I actually think people don't attach enough importance to protein.

Someone doing a job like @LaGiaconda DEFINITELY needs a lot of protein, most likely somewhat more than the RDA for their weight.

Also - alongside fibre, protein is what makes us feel 'fed' and satisfied. When our bodies need energy, they make us wants carbs because that's readily-available calories (energy). If you're genuinely getting enough full-spectrum protein, you're much less likely to crave too many carbs.

I am a nutrition bore Blush

phoenixrosehere · 05/08/2023 22:10

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/08/2023 21:24

I've just checked the packet in the kitchen. 351kcal per 100g, 40g portion size. 140.4 kcal per portion.

A few bits of onion, beansprouts, cabbage, mushroom, carrot, two broccoli sprigs and some tamari doesn't make it suddenly turn into an obesogenic meal.

Nor does it make it a really low unsubstantial meal.