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catgirl1976 · 04/08/2023 18:17

So we lost our beautiful cat earlier this year to heart failure and have finally decided we are ready for a new kitten

We got a rescue kitten yesterday. Not told a huge amount about him other than he was born on a farm etc. He’s about 11 weeks old.

Got him home and it’s really clear he’s not been socialised at all and is t used to people. He’s been hiding under the sofa since yesterday afternoon. He won’t come out for food or water although when I came done last night his bowls were empty so I know he ate at least last night. He did come out for a very short explore in the evening but has hidden all day today.

The rescue lady said not to let him hide and to force him to have lots of cuddles to get used to us. We’ve tried twice and it’s clearly really stressful for him being deaf g out of his hiding spot (I have the scratches to prove it). Although once you’ve got him and are stroking him he’s calm. He won’t come out for kitten treats or toys. I’ve spent a lot of time lying on the floor talking softly to him and blinking slowly at him.

My previous experience of cats and everything I can find on line says leave him alone but the cat rescue woman was adamant.

AIBU to think I should leave him alone (he has access to food and water) and he’ll settle and coke out or is the cat lady right and (especially given he’s pretty much feral as far as I can tell) we need to get him out.

The only downside of not being able to get near him is we can’t show him where his litter tray is but I’m hoping this isn’t going to mean we can’t successfully litter train him once he’s a bit more settled

any advice is very much appreciated

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tictactoe1234 · 05/08/2023 00:29

I would leave him to come out in his own time

Don't force him

BackAgainstWall · 04/08/2023 23:45

You were given ridiculous advice by the woman at the rescue centre.

Definitely do not force him out.
Leave him be.

Speak to him very gently.

Give him time.

He Will come to you in his own time.
Be patient he will get there.

Lilyjfree · 04/08/2023 23:06

Definitely follow the rescuers advice. You really do need to keep the interaction with the kitten up, it’s the way to ensure that he domesticates. We recently had older feral kittens in where I volunteer, one of them came round fairly quickly, but the sibling didn’t. He would hiss and freak if you tried to get near him. We had to wrap him in a towel and sit with him on our laps. It took weeks but eventually he started purring and the towel was no longer needed.

We are very open with our adopters and ensure they fully understand the continuing training these kittens need. Without the consistency in those early days, they can really regress and then domesticating an older kitten is quite a bit more difficult, especially if they have learned how to swipe and bite. A semi feral is often worse than a full feral (full ferals will run when they feel threatened, whereas semi ferals will stand their ground more).

Have to say though some of the best cats we have at the rescue are former ferals. I especially love it when a much older feral finally realises we are good to them and comes to us for cuddles. We’ve had complete ferals domesticate into lap cats, but we are lucky that we have the space and environment at our rescue to allow the cats to do as they want. Some turn domestic and some never do.

congratulations on your new family member, keep up the interaction and fingers crossed he turns into a soppy kitty soon.

cinzanoandcoke · 04/08/2023 22:51

Aw, he's a cutie!!!! We have had farm cats before. Agree with PPs ... leave him to acclimate. However they do need to get used to people. So e.g, leave toys out for them to explore on their own it don't expect them to play when you wave them around. Go into the room and talk, put away laundry etc, but don't drag them out of under the bed for a cuddle. If you do at home yoga do it in the room. If you walk in and they're eating or using the litter tray walk straight out!! They will get there.

Emmamoo89 · 04/08/2023 22:42

He's gorgeous 😍

purser25 · 04/08/2023 22:29

A vet once said to me it is important to talk to your kittens as much as possible and handle them in their early days that way you have a sociable cat. All ours have been sociable and he said that was why. I also heard our local cat rescue say this to a family who had adopted two at about 11 weeks she said you must talk to them and socialise them. At a lot of cat rescues have socialises who sit in the pens with the cats. We have cuddle monsters not had a kitten recently as we have adopted cats of about 5 as we have an elderly Mother and a kitten would be dangerous

AlmostAJillSandwich · 04/08/2023 22:29

Awww
i would absolutely love an all black male kitten if circumstance ever allows

Estelle74uk · 04/08/2023 22:24

Our first black cat was called Smeagol, Meags for short 🐈‍⬛

DumpedByText · 04/08/2023 22:16

I've got a kitten who was completely feral. He was on a farm with 7 other kittens that needed homes.

He was very spicy when he arrived, hissed and wouldn't come near us and was difficult to handle. We just fed him, put toys out and left him alone. We carried on as normal so he got used to noise.

A week later he was sat on my chest purring away, nestling into my neck and was very affectionate. He's now an adorable 1 year old and loves cuddles! So I'm sure your kitten will come around and love you all!

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AffIt · 04/08/2023 22:15

Sounds like your woman might have been thinking of the 'feral window' for socialisation.

That's a very narrow period between about 2-6 weeks and ordinarily applies to hand-rearing orphaned or abandoned ferals.

Just give the wee guy time and I'm sure he'll be grand.

ladyvivienne · 04/08/2023 22:13

He needs his own room.

Yarnorama · 04/08/2023 22:09

If the rescue are advising OP to do what is typical advice for socialising feral/semi-feral kittens, there's probably a really good reason for that. The rescue woman isn't stupid or an idiot or whatever other names are being chucked at her, and she knows the kitten's needs better that any of us posting here.

fantasmasgoria1 · 04/08/2023 22:05

He is an absolute beauty!!!!

YoDood · 04/08/2023 22:05

Try putting melted butter on the backs of your hands and the tops of your feet.

If he gets close enough to you he’ll form a positive association between you and the smell and may want to lick you.

Worked for a nervous kitten I had years ago. And all of my cats started out nervy - it’s very normal :)

Helenahandkart · 04/08/2023 22:01

My new kitten hid for ages. Every night we heard him come out and walk up and down the piano keys. He got brave enough to come out and meet us eventually.
In my experience kittens are really good at finding their litter trays, even if they haven’t used them before.
The rescue lady is talking nonsense. Your kitten will make friends with you in their own good time.

Itsallsostressful · 04/08/2023 21:50

Follow Fairy Cat Mother on Twitter (or X). Frankie fosters kittens kittens and might give some good ideas 🐱🐈

DangerFrog · 04/08/2023 21:47

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 04/08/2023 19:26

@DangerFrog ·
He is lovely there is something so majestic about a cat sprawled on the bed you think he is sleeping but his ears are on Alert .

Our Female pretty much owns the house but doesn't come into our room. Our Male lies on the bed during the day listening to birds through the window .

They have their favourites and I have to declare I am not counted in that number . Male Cat gives me a look that says "Don't touch me . I did not invite you" but he's over DD like a rash .

I bloody picked them too , you;d think the little blighters would be a teeny bit grateful , no?

Aw, I know I'm honoured to be the Chosen One! The kids laugh- they generally feed him and DH gives him treats but I'm the one he cuddles into. And walks over. And climbs over.
From the hissy, spitty bundle of fur that I collected 2 years ago - he's such a softie now. He's not perfectly socialised, still won't go near strangers and can be skittish if there's loud noises, but loves belly rubs and is happy for the kids to carry him about.

hby9628 · 04/08/2023 21:47

What a cutie. Definitely leave him. When we brought our rescue home she hid inside our brand new sofa! It took a couple of days but now she rules the roost. We thought she had got out of the house at one point as she totally disappeared & we checked everywhere for her but she had just found another safe spot and came out when she was feeling brave. Seems they can squeeze into the smallest spaces. Don't worry. You will soon be a kitten slave.

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 04/08/2023 21:46

catgirl1976 · 04/08/2023 21:18

He’s had a really good explore, jumped on the sofa and had a good look at us all. He’s gone back under the sofa now but it feels like a big step forward

Awww

Yellowlegobrick · 04/08/2023 21:40

Shelters/rescues will often say its best for cats to stay with mum/siblings until 12-16 weeks for "cat socialisation" etc.

This works well for pet kittens when mum is a domesticated, well socialised family pet and the litter are living in a family home with daily handling, children around etc, vet visits etc.

It does not work well when mum is a terrified feral or semi feral cat, and the litter are living in a rescue or over crowded foster home with often 10 plus cats and a single volunteer who simply can't give them enough attention. What you then get is a nervy, poorly socialised cat, who never quite loves human attention - perhaps only ever gets comfortable with one or two family members but won't let kids near them, won't sit on the sofa if a human is on it, is petrified of the vet/pet carrier.

If the mother cat is a feral or semi feral living in a rescue, it makes for a better socialised pet to rehome to a family home at around 8 weeks once the kitten is fully weaned. That way it will get loads of human socialisation just when its an age to explore and enjoy it.

NobodyWantsToHearThat · 04/08/2023 21:39

MeridianB · 04/08/2023 18:31

The rescue lady said not to let him hide and to force him to have lots of cuddles to get used to us.

This is really lousy advice.

He's just super scared, suddenly alone and trying to keep himself safe. He'll get more confident soon enough.

He's just left his siblings and mum. He's a baby, in a new place, with new sounds and sights. Let him settle in. Do NOT force him out of his safe places. The woman is an idiot.

kayserah · 04/08/2023 21:37

he is gorgeous. He’ll settle it’s just all so new and scary right now. If you’re on Facebook have a look at Atticus the attic cat page. A feral cat that was discovered in someone’s loft who took weeks to come round. He’s very settled now

DangerFrog · 04/08/2023 21:33

Aw, that's fab news. Sounds like a curious and confident little thing. But I'd still stick with the occasional cuddle - no matter how mean it feels. Farm cats are generally semi-feral; they don't have the same experiences and human interaction as other kittens so they need different treatment.

The good news is that you should see results quickly. You know he likes being petted, you just need him to learn how to overcome his natural instinct of being afraid of you. Good luck!

MojoMoon · 04/08/2023 21:22

That is a big step! And great progress.

catgirl1976 · 04/08/2023 21:18

He’s had a really good explore, jumped on the sofa and had a good look at us all. He’s gone back under the sofa now but it feels like a big step forward

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