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Deciding they should be called 'Aunty'

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Newmum738 · 01/08/2023 22:35

My brother currently has a gf who he has been with for a few years now. He is twice divorced and there have been many gfs over the years.

The current gf decided when my ds was born that she should be called 'Aunty' which has irritated me from the beginning because I hardly even know her and they are not married.

My Dad died recently and my brother has been a real let down and she hasn't done anything to help so I'm especially rebelling against her decision for my son to call her Aunty.

YABU - it's up to her what she should be called
YANBU - it's up to the parent to decide who has the honour of being called Aunty unless they are actually an Aunty!!!

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Paddleboarder · 14/08/2023 17:02

If they have been together for a few years then I think it's ok - I wasn't married to my ex and his nieces and nephews all called me aunty.

But you can call her whatever you want when talking about her to your children. Just use her name if that's what you want. Now that my children are older I've stopped referring to their aunts and uncles in that way and just call them by their names.

Newmum738 · 14/08/2023 16:58

@Limonatamum they are over 60 with 6 grown up children between them. It's downhill to retirement for them! I do sympathise with your situation though and op's are right, I'm angry with my brother and taking it out on her. We won't see them much now. We didn't have much of a relationship before and we certainly don't now!

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Limonatamum · 12/08/2023 07:44

my SIL does this to me which I find beyond mean.
The married in men are referred to as uncle & she has never called me aunty, even when my now husband has (together for 8 years), she’s gone so far as to omit it when reading out Christmas cards to her children. It makes me really sad & I feel like she doesn’t want me in her family, despite her begging for support from my husband and I left right and centre.
I would really recommend reconsidering this one, if they end up married with kids she’s going to be the one that fosters a good relationship with her kids and you. I can’t say I particularly push my kids to call her and her husband aunty and uncle, why would I.

Newmum738 · 12/08/2023 07:32

@Blossomtoes this couple don't live together. If they had kids together or lived together it would be different. My son doesn't really have a relationship with them and isn't going to so what's the point?

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melj1213 · 04/08/2023 12:34

What does it really matter?

When I was growing up anyone who was friends with my parents were aunties and uncles, as well as my parents' siblings. We knew which ones were family and which were friends but it was just easier to call them Aunt Jane and Uncle John when talking about what we did at the weekend and with who. Often if honorífica weren't being used then subtle phrasing differences would still differentiate relationships - even now if I'm going to visit a family member I will say "I'm going shopping then I'm going round to our Michael's, do you want to come?" With the "our" indicating that I am going to see the family member named Michael as opposed to a friend/acquaintance of the same name ... I could say Uncle Michael but if there is mixed company where he has different titles then we will default to "our" (at least in my family anyway)

Now things are way more complicated with differing familial relationships and often for kids using aunty and uncle makes it easy for them to differentiate family from friends even if the specific title is incorrect. For example, my mum is my DDs grandma however to my cousin's children she is their great aunt, but they will refer to her as "Aunty Jane" because it's what they have heard their parents (my cousin's) refer to her as, but they will also refer to my cousin's siblings as "Aunty Sarah and "Uncle Sam" because they are the child's actual aunts and uncles.

My cousin's children don't tend to refer to me and my siblings as anything other than our first name in general conversation but if I have taken them out with DD for the day and we bump into people they know then they will often introduce us as "Aunty Mel and CousinDD" more for ease of explanation than as a willful lie because that is easier than "My dad's cousin Mel and her DD" especially as we do have a very close relationship.

Especially when children are younger it's easier for them to use one title for everyone rather than try to keep things clear in their heads - eg my mum's aunt, when we talk about her with family everyone knows that if you're talking about Aunty Mary you are talking about her, even if for some she is their aunt, others she is a great aunt, others she is a great great aunt, others she's a step-aunt, others she is a great-step aunt etc ... To keep it simple for everyone she is just "Aunty Mary".

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 04/08/2023 10:04

You are not being unreasonable; she's not your children's aunt and she doesn't get to confer that status on herself.

5foot5 · 04/08/2023 10:03

Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 07:58

But your parents decided who had that honour, right?

I'm not querying the fact that some people who are not Aunties & Uncles may have the honour of the title. I'm encouraging 'Aunty' for one of DS's cousins because she is his godmother and we use it for some friends too.

My question is who gets to decide. Is it the parents or should other adults be able to decide for themselves?

In truth I can't remember how it was decided, but you are probably right about it being parents. Or by mutual consent or something.

It is not a tradition we carried on. When our DD was small the only people she called Aunt or Uncle were genuine aunts or uncles. Other adults she called either Mr or Mrs or just first name. We introduced ourselves to all her friends by our first name from a very young age.

Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 09:21

@Findyourneutralspace what I'm getting at is whether you decided that or the children's parents.

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Blossomtoes · 04/08/2023 08:29

YukoandHiro · 02/08/2023 09:04

" My mum is my brother's stepmum and none of the 20 grandchildren and great-grandchildren have ever called her Nana."

That's actually just cruel. Why ever not?

It is, isn’t it? My bloke’s grandchildren call me Granny. I can’t believe OP is citing not being married as a reason when more than half the kids born now are to unmarried couples!

Susuwatariandkodama · 04/08/2023 08:18

In my husbands culture everyone is uncle and aunty but for me growing up, once I reached my teen years I called all my relatives other than my grandparents by their name so it depends on your own upbringing, if you aren’t comfortable with it then just refer to her by her name, it’s your choice, not hers.

LaMarschallin · 04/08/2023 08:12

Sorry if I'm repeating anyone (I've only read the first couple of pages and all the OP's posts), but I didn't realise that being called "Auntie" was such an "honour".
I was taught to call quite a lot of my parents' friends "Auntie/Uncle " when I was a child, but that was more because it didn't feel polite to call an adult by their 1st name and Mrs/Mr X was a bit formal with someone you saw quite frequently.
Funnily enough, in my family it's almost more of an "honour" not to use "Auntie/Uncle", because you are seen as grownup enough to use first names.
Everyone is aware who are biological or "official" aunts or uncles.
I think I lean to letting a person decide what they want to be called (as long as it's not something ridiculous like "My second mummy" or something).

Findyourneutralspace · 04/08/2023 08:09

I don’t know. I don’t see it as a big deal. I’m Aunty Neutral to loads of kids I’m not related to and my kids have loads of unrelated aunties too. We’re a close bunch of friends and we’re northern so maybe it’s cultural.
When I was a kid we called our playgroup leaders Aunty Jane and Aunty Sarah too.

Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 08:07

@LadyPenelope68 that is a bit unfair given the context and not the point of the question!

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Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 08:06

Thanks for all your comments, I can see there is some agreement on the general point. But the specific situation not so much! Thankfully, I'm starting bereavement counselling today so my current feelings will be explored!

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LadyPenelope68 · 04/08/2023 08:01

You’re clearly being petty just because you don’t like her. You’re making an issue out of nothing.

Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 08:01

YukoandHiro · 02/08/2023 09:04

" My mum is my brother's stepmum and none of the 20 grandchildren and great-grandchildren have ever called her Nana."

That's actually just cruel. Why ever not?

Probably for the reason that it is cruel! It's a very difficult family situation and now our Dad isn't here, it's a total mess.

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Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 08:00

TroysMammy · 02/08/2023 20:49

I've been with my partner for 9 years and my niece when she was 4 asked him if she could call him uncle, he nearly cried. She doesn't call him uncle but buys him birthday cards with uncle on it and refers to him as my uncle when speaking to others outside our small family. He is her only uncle and I'm her only auntie.

❤️

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Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 07:59

IamWaldo · 02/08/2023 22:44

I kind of get this. My MIL’s partner appointed himself Grandpa for my child and I was really unhappy. They had not been together all that long, he had never been a father/stepfather to my DH, and I didn’t like him. My own father found it hurtful too as he felt this equated the two of them in their relationship to my child. I just made a point of always calling him by his name to my child instead of Grandpa and he did get the point eventually and stopped. While I probably wouldn’t get as wound up over ‘Aunty’ I do understand and suggest you just don’t use the term yourself. Your child will follow suit.

Completely this!

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Newmum738 · 04/08/2023 07:58

5foot5 · 02/08/2023 23:35

When I was a child I was encouraged to call quite a lot of adults who I wasn't related to Auntie or Uncle. I think it was because it wasn't considered polite for small children to call an adult by just their first name.

Most adults would be addressed as Mr. or Mrs. X. But if they were friends of the family then the Auntie or Uncle prefix was used.

Just to confuse things I did have many genuine aunts and uncles and also sone grown up cousins almost the same age as my parents. These grown up cousins had to be called Auntie or Uncle too!

It took me years to work out who I was and wasn't related to and how.

But your parents decided who had that honour, right?

I'm not querying the fact that some people who are not Aunties & Uncles may have the honour of the title. I'm encouraging 'Aunty' for one of DS's cousins because she is his godmother and we use it for some friends too.

My question is who gets to decide. Is it the parents or should other adults be able to decide for themselves?

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5foot5 · 02/08/2023 23:35

When I was a child I was encouraged to call quite a lot of adults who I wasn't related to Auntie or Uncle. I think it was because it wasn't considered polite for small children to call an adult by just their first name.

Most adults would be addressed as Mr. or Mrs. X. But if they were friends of the family then the Auntie or Uncle prefix was used.

Just to confuse things I did have many genuine aunts and uncles and also sone grown up cousins almost the same age as my parents. These grown up cousins had to be called Auntie or Uncle too!

It took me years to work out who I was and wasn't related to and how.

LightDrizzle · 02/08/2023 23:27

Was your dad who sadly died not also your brother’s father? How has your brother really let you down and why is his girlfriend paying the price?

RightOnTheEdge · 02/08/2023 23:20

YANBU OP.
if you feel uncomfortable then just call her by her name and your son will do the same.
She's not his aunt they don't even live together.

Stompythedinosaur · 02/08/2023 22:59

I think your brother's long term partner, who has known your dc since birth, is clearly an aunty.

Don't use this as a petty way of expressing your displeasure over other issues.

IamWaldo · 02/08/2023 22:44

I kind of get this. My MIL’s partner appointed himself Grandpa for my child and I was really unhappy. They had not been together all that long, he had never been a father/stepfather to my DH, and I didn’t like him. My own father found it hurtful too as he felt this equated the two of them in their relationship to my child. I just made a point of always calling him by his name to my child instead of Grandpa and he did get the point eventually and stopped. While I probably wouldn’t get as wound up over ‘Aunty’ I do understand and suggest you just don’t use the term yourself. Your child will follow suit.

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 02/08/2023 21:19

You don’t think they’ve supported you but you call his gf of over four years his current gf and talk as if they’re not serious about each other.

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