Aliens???

Like most scientist, we take a lot of comfort in facts that whilst there will be other life forms, theres a big step then to life forms that can travel 4.7 light years to us, survive that, just for a bit of a day out at earth zoo? Let alone shipping an entire invading army over that distance, to a planet you don’t know has bigger guns than yours?

You'd be ignorant to think there's nothing else out there. Billions of planets and yet we're the only life form?

Yes it’s definitely more likely there is other life out there. But it would be so far away it would take light years/ trillions of miles to ever get here and that would be if whatever it was could travel at the speed of light. I just don’t see how anything would get here and then be under control.

Universal laws are just that. Observation. Our theories may change to the whys and how’s, but universal laws still put up immense barriers.
yes, off course other civilisation will have different technologies and understanding- but they still have to overcome those universal laws , even ones we know about.

I'm surprised by the lack of headlines.

Why don't aliens from other galaxies look more like humans? that's the bit that confuses me!

Oh, and other thing, there’s a hell of a lot of pieces of little bitty rock in orbits out there- take millennia to map all there orbits and it’s a constantly moving goalpost as they impact on each other.
you’d have to be pretty damned clever to be flying close to speed of light dodging seemingly random asteroids as small as a stone, that at that speed could cause an immense impact

I think we can only think in terms our understanding on energy and time. Longer living would not view travel distances as an obstacle

I’m a STEM graduate and scientist- retired now

i think we have plenty of theories why life exists on other exoplanets- nearest likely candidate being 4.7 light years away.

but I think it’s an entirely different kettle of fish whether they could travel here, let alone have travelled here

1. based on our technology of space travel we’re talking 8,600 years to get here even from closest possible candidate
2. there are literally thousands of people watching the night sky as astronomers , both professional and amateur every single day, all over the world, using all sorts of instruments including old school lenses and visual light, to radar etc . We’d see anything coming towards us literally years out - but all we ever get is “ close encounters” within our atmosphere. People will say they will have to technology to evade detection- well f that’s the case why the hell stop that once inside atmosphere, not very logical is it? I don’t believe any conspiracies that a world full of astronomers have all been kept quiet
3. the sheer amount of energy to send any craft , especially manned, on a journey of that length is mind boggling if it had ability to escape detection years out. When we send craft into deep space we send unmanned craft, and use gravity to sling shot and little actual power - even a nuclear fission powered craft wouldn’t have the energy required to fly close to speed of light through that distance. The observed laws of physics and chemistry, and to an extent biology, are universal. Yep, we have theories on how stuff works,we revise, update theories all the time and there’s massive questions still to be answered in terms of quantum physics etc - but what we observe is universal and a lot of what we know on laws of physics and astronomy is based on deep space observations. We know black holes exist, we have a pretty good working theory on what they are and why, based on those universal observations . Those universal laws are just that-applicable to the whole universe. The basic chemical building blocks don’t change in different parts of universe, nor does gravity . Any alien technology still had to overcome those basic immense challenges of how to energise a craft to get here, keep the aliens alive and their biological life form resistant to effects of zero gravity and aging cells, and somehow magically not appear until they’re n earths atmosphere, get home again ( presumably 🤷🏼‍♀️).
4. The risks in doing that as any life form are immense - yep, unmanned craft I could buy into , quite possible if it was launched 1000s of years ago, but manned craft? Hmm , don’t buy it. There would be few people in this world ( aside from Elon musk types) that would give up their life to be put into some sort of suspensed life for decades to travel to find worlds with life forms, when they don’t know they exist ( well not for first visit !) or could have even more advanced technology then them to annihilate them instantly even years out.

it’d be a big shock to me if I’m wrong🤣🤣🤣🤣

That comment is about the map that suggests UFOs only being spotted in English speaking countries by the way.

Maybe these countries use a certain reporting system. Maybe the person who created this map only referenced data and records in English or stored in a specific way. I would question the source of this data first of all.

I dont disagree that there may be extraterrestrial life. I haven't given much thought to whether I believe its visited Earth.

I'd be more cynical and think that it's quite a convenient sideshow to distract from Top Secret aircraft and weapons development.

This was all over the internet and then denied

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/01/us-military-drone-ai-killed-operator-simulated-test

Why would this be unbelievable the million of species on our planet? Diversity is normal and more believable

Yes, I’ve been surprised by the lack of coverage.

It sounds like some of the craft are very different from each other - what if there’s more than one other form of alien life??

If any of it’s true that it’s just unbelievable.

He also said if robots don't get us, climate change will. We'd do well to take heed. Still more chance of that than an alien invasion. That's the scariest thing.

Even Stephen Hawking believed there was practically no chance that humans are alone in the universe. If he believed in life elsewhere then that's good enough for me. The size of the [still expanding] universe blows my tiny mind. Our planet is minuscule, smaller than a grain of sand in a desert.

There is a policy that news which is upsetting or disturbing is drip fed to the populace. There is something bigger following this.

I'm not saying I don't believe aliens exist, I just don't know how it would have been kept a secret for so long.

A documentary covered this (I’ve seen a few and can’t remember which one - maybe Bob Lazar or Stephen Greer), and explained how secrets are kept by only allowing the vast majority of workers to have clearance for a small element of the whole project. Release of individual snippets would be unremarkable.
Very few have access all areas. I remember it being called stove piping or something like that.

Yes lots of U.K. papers have it online but quite hidden and on no front pages this morning… not even the cheesy ones

The independent have it on YouTube - one of the interviewers is called Mrs Luna

Interesting! You would think that congress discussing it would give the credibility they need. Wonder if it’s being reported widely in the US

Reminds me of Don’t Look Up storyline! I was thinking that would never happen… but now I’m not so sure!

With AI I don’t think the public will believe any credible evidence presented on video/ photos

Think about the conditioning we have had to ignore these stories. It will be in the papers but not a headline due to credibility of the papers

Why isn’t this all over the papers today in the U.K.? Surely one of the biggest stories of the century if it’s true!

No, that’s just humans. I mean would you describe any other animal on this planet as evil? They just play the part nature assigned them.

One of the things that stays with me is my grandmother telling me she was paying 1p to listen to a radio at a steam engine fair in early 20th century. The leaps that we have made are bigger than the last 1000 years.

We are living in strange times.

The story of the AI going rogue recently, is a also a slow drip that things are a little different

Why wouldn't aliens exist