Aliens???

Many sightings around Nuclear plants worldwide. Of course they have been monitoring us.

In the book Above Top Secret it describes meetings in the 1960s with world leaders and ETs. An agreement was made concerning Nuclear energy.
If we have gone back on our agreements then the motive would be to stop mankind doing further damage.

Why not just explain briefly first?

Why?!

Can you give a brief outline as I don't want to google.

Is it because of the AI technology so it is multidimentional and only US have this technology?

Google Pentyrch

We were also close to a large airbase.

@mauveiscurious

Where in the UK?

The Midlands. It was a similar time to the Rendlesham sightings in Suffolk. There were many sightings.

@Appleofmyeye2023

I think you're still missing the fundamental point that posters are making to you. There are most likely a great deal of unknown unknowns in the universe.

Arguing that humans already have a strong enough understanding of the universe to dismiss alien activity because it doesn't fit with our knowledge, resources or motivations is odd to say the least.

It feels unlikely to me that we have a complete understanding of all the chemical elements in the universe, who knows what other elements exists and what potential they could have?

I personally don't believe that aliens are visiting us, mainly due to the points @Dotjones made earlier.

Not if I thought that Roman ps or aztecs would be a bit tetchy and launch nuclear attack on me

I think if they’re that advanced they can fly through a wormhole that is (if Einstein’s maths proves right) both unstable and likely to be so small we’re talking crafts the size of a pin head being needed to make it through, then they’ll have long since figured out realistic holographic documentaries or theme parks aka David attenburgh

I’ll buy that there’s an extremely low probability that salient life forms send unmanned craft, but not that aliens are out for exploration earth zoo visits. Too risky. It’s not just what humans will do, it’s diseases that they’re not immune to, what if there’s tech failure, needing exactly the right conditions like pressure, etc .

Theres a reason why the recent submarine disaster happened- arrogant people thinking they can outwit science and gloss over risks, sensible people send unmanned subs to really spend time at great depths and difficult environments to explore the alien world of deep sea. This is the way to collect good data . You’ve no limitations on time other than power (no air supply needed), it’s an expensive but not fatal issue if there’s a malfunction and it is destroyed. I’m sure these super salient and advanced civilisation that have this capacity would have learnt about risk assessment centuries before otherwise…well they’d not have become that advanced 🤣🤣🤷🏼‍♀️

@GasPanic they'd most likely to put together so differently from us that it would be impossible to comprehend their thoughts and motivations. They may not be carbon-based - hell maybe some aren't actually even solid - conscious individual gas clouds?

I think it would be brilliant to do. Maybe the reality of living it might be less fun though.

I mean we spend billions of hours of effort on this planet just watching people kick balls around or race round tracks in circles. Not quite sure what aliens would make of all that.

The higher civilisations get, the less time they spend surviving, the more time they spend doing stuff to entertain themselves.

Aliens are aliens and have alien motivations. I think you can come up with hundreds of ideas as to why they might want to be here other than they want to eat us or scare us.

But it's hard to know what their actual motivations (if they are here) would be.

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

This is a really interesting blog post exploring all the possible reasons for the Fermi paradox (the question that considering there is such a high probability of other life, why haven't we heard from them?).

Though written in 2014 so obviously before other things have come to light.

But do you think if there was an ability for people in the present day to travel in the past and say visit the Roman, Eygptian, Aztec civilizations or say see the dinosaurs there aren't any people that would find that interesting or want to do it ?

I would - I literally fantasise about that. Not just the very far past either but things like being able to go back San Franscisco in the sixties.
Definitely Rome during its heyday as first choice of destination though.

I agree motive is key.

But do you think if there was an ability for people in the present day to travel in the past and say visit the Roman, Eygptian, Aztec civilizations or say see the dinosaurs there aren't any people that would find that interesting or want to do it ?

@Appleofmyeye2023 you're the one taking it all oh-so-seriously so less of the condescension please.

Especially with the exponential progression of technology!

But why? It’s all down to motive..look at my other post and answer that

btw…wormholes🤣🤣🤣🤷🏼‍♀️

There wasn't much new science done in the moon landings IMO. It was basically engineering and the ingenious application of technology.

All the fundamental theories we used in getting there like gravity and electromagnetics we figured out years before. There wasn't much difference in principle between the rockets used and Chinese fireworks of the 1100s. Sure the scale was massively different and there were some significant engineering challenges, but the fundamental physical principles/science are the same. Sit on a big enough rocket for a long enough time and it will take you to where you want to go. There was a lot of ingenious stuff done - look up core rope memory (which has an added female angle!). But it wasn't new physics.

With UAPs, for something to go at say 300mph and then instantly turn and go 300 mph in another, we literally have no idea how to do that (in open world physics anyway). We don't have the fundamental theories on how it could be done, or any idea of the tech that we might use to do it. It's impossible within the limits our both our current theories/science and tech.

@GasPanic but they sent man to the moon in the sixties, they weren't that incapable if they could do that back then surely ?

These aircraft's came from somewhere, and the reports themself state not human made, so I don't think there is any denying other life out there

@Appleofmyeye2023 they might have much more advanced technology though, like utilising wormholes to travel?

I'm sure there is, was or will be life somewhere out there it considering how vast the universe is and how short life has been around on earth compared to the age of the age of the universe, I think it's highly unlikely that we will ever come into contact with anyone.

If you gave someone in 1900 a microchip they wouldn't even know what it was for, let alone be able to reverse engineer it.

You could tell them it had something to do with electricity and they'd probably get that.

If it were say a logic gate, you could explain the maths to them on what tasks it would perform and they would understand that very easily (as would most people today). But they still wouldn't be able to replicate it.

I guess the point I'm making is that we could see a widget that flies and probably more than likely understand the maths and theories behind how it does that if it is explained to us.

But our chances of being able to replicate it could be quite poor, especially when we might be talking 1000s of years of technological gap compared with the 130 in the example earlier.

IMO there has got to be some other kind of life out there, it's naive to think otherwise, if we're here why not other life forms ? We can't be the only planet in the whole universe with life on it.
Isn't there pictures from Egyptians etc who drew aliens or something ?

Maybe back in the older times it was easier for them to cover up, but now, with everyone having a camera in their pocket at all times, it's easy for the general public to capture things, maybe that's why it's slowly coming out, because it can't be hidden any long.

I agree with a pp, if they were a threat surely we'd have known about it by now ?
Also the fact they couldn't reverse engineer the aircraft's technology speaks volumes doesn't it!

Last night I watched 'accidental truth' and it's all about this cover up!