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Argument with husband about protecting dog

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rankings · 25/07/2023 12:25

My husband and me had a situation on the beach yesterday where he was wearing our 5 month old baby in the carrier, and a staffie off a lead ran up to our dog. We didn't know if the staffie was friendly or not but the owners were frantically calling it back so the atmosphere quickly turned panicked and I grabbed my 3 year old and dragged him away from the our dog and the staffie. My logic always being to create distance between the dog and my children. Of course I would absolutely hate to see my lovely dog hurt or killed, and please can no one imply different, but I also would never be able to risk my kids for any dog, no matter how much I love them. Anyway my husband who was wearing our baby tan towards our dog and the staffie and was trying to pick our dog up. I was furious as not only the act of bending down trying to pick up our dog could of led to the staffie being able to reach and bite my baby, picking up the dog could also lead to the other dog jumping up to try and get to him and the baby getting caught in the middle. I think he massively put our baby at risk. The staffie thankfully did nothing other than jump up and scare us/our dog but it's more what could of happened

It led to a conversation about what would happen in future when out with kids and dog and my husband said he would never be able to walk away and leave our dog to be attacked but this just makes me feel terrified to let him go out with the dog and the kids together especially without me there.

AIBU to expect him to prioritise the kids and put distance between him and the dogs both ours and the one potentially posing a threat?! I really do love our dog but I won't risk my kids lives over my dog potentially living another 5/6 if we're lucky

Before anyone starts that Staffies are gentle or whatever it's more just about that situation of what to do. Would have same reaction if it was a JR or a XL and want to create distance

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neilyoungismyhero · 01/09/2023 19:57

elephantmarchingin · 25/07/2023 12:32

@Aquamarine1029 the dog did nothing, OP overreacted

She didn't know that though did she? Hindsightisxa wonderful thing.

BrownHairedGirlWithTheBrightestSmile · 28/07/2023 18:30

You were the one in the wrong here OP. You should have stayed to sort your dog out. Your husband would then have been able to take both children away.

I agree with this.

And if there’s only one adult, you don’t take the children and dogs out together because you couldn’t possibly be in control.

tidalway · 28/07/2023 09:42

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tabulahrasa · 28/07/2023 09:07

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I think you missed that that was a follow up post from one where I’d said that in general sort the children out first, because dogs are more capable of defending themselves than children.

And this post was in response to the OP’s over dramatic statement about not risking her life breaking up a dog fight.

Also, run is terrible advice... even if the other dog doesn’t go, ooh running, your own dog would naturally follow you anyway.

PrimalOwl10 · 28/07/2023 08:51

I couldn't personally leave my dog to be attacked and would have helped her. If that was my husband he would handed me the baby and got our dog or i would have grabbed her. But we consider our dog part of the family.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 28/07/2023 08:46

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If you run the dogs will think this is an amazing game.

Surely, you've learnt not to run from a dog. Just stand still.

GroutScrubberExtraordinaire · 28/07/2023 08:31

Again (I know I mentioned this already): as someone who's dog was near killed in such an attack - my experience tells me that very few people really have any clue how they would behave.

It is all rather surreal and terrifying and both lasts forever and is over too quickly for a rational response. And the noise my dog made - the screaming noise - I will never forget that as long as I live. Nor will I forget carrying her home with half her skin torn off.

I'm not an inexperienced dog owner, have broken up a few dog fights in my time (every day fights between known dogs) but an out-of-the-blue proper attack by a strange dog... in my experience, that's something else entirely.

So all the tooing and froing in the world about how you might behave... I honestly don't think you know until you face it.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 28/07/2023 08:24

@tidalway
But there was no need to run. OP was making a fuss about nothing simply because she saw a staffy on the beach . It was excitable and ether then aggressive - no, I wasn't there - but that comes out of her OP. Run, and an excited dog will chase - he thinks you're playing .

Honestly 🙄

Oatycookies · 28/07/2023 00:21

This is why if I have kids I’d never leave them with a dog owner. So many - not all- are bonkers. To even think of risking your child to protect your dog is wild.

tidalway · 27/07/2023 23:00

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Lesina · 27/07/2023 22:59

If you don’t want people to tell you Stafford’s are gentle, why mention the breed? Would you have had the same hysterical reaction of the dog was a Labrador or a poodle hybrid ( mongrel) A Stafford would not have harmed your child. Learn about the breed before you judge.

JMSA · 27/07/2023 22:53

I agree, he was offering the baby as 'bait' to the dog to distract it away from his dog 😱

Absolute horseshit.
Honestly, the drama on this thread.

Maray1967 · 27/07/2023 22:44

ButterCrackers · 27/07/2023 22:31

The person with the baby and the person with the other kids gets out of the way of dogs. Your dog would manage because it can read the other dog. Your dog would also protect its pack. Your dh should not have gone forward to the dog. He could have tripped over and fallen down and that’s a trigger for an attack. He would not be able to get up quickly with the baby. Tell him protect the children, then you, then himself and then your dog.

Exactly. I would have gone ballistic if my DH had tried to protect a dog while carrying our baby.

Tapasgoofy · 27/07/2023 22:35

Bunnyannesummers · 27/07/2023 21:20

This is def the case!!

Yes 100%.
You don’t love your dog if you could see it get attacked and just fuck off and leave it.

Tapasgoofy · 27/07/2023 22:34

I could never leave my dog either to get attacked.

ButterCrackers · 27/07/2023 22:31

The person with the baby and the person with the other kids gets out of the way of dogs. Your dog would manage because it can read the other dog. Your dog would also protect its pack. Your dh should not have gone forward to the dog. He could have tripped over and fallen down and that’s a trigger for an attack. He would not be able to get up quickly with the baby. Tell him protect the children, then you, then himself and then your dog.

CountTo10BeforeExploding · 27/07/2023 21:38

I would have done what your husband did by instinct OP. I just simply couldn’t leave my dog in an unsafe situation whether it was up against a chihuahua or a bully. My instinct would kick in and I would have to attempt to save my dog. For that reason I’m saying YABU.

Bunnyannesummers · 27/07/2023 21:20

Hibiscrubbed · 25/07/2023 18:53

I get vibes that you’re a dog owner who rapidly lost interest in the dog when the kids arrived. And that’s not fair on the dog. They don’t understand. You chose to have them and then chose to have the kids. Your H obviously didn’t lose his loyalty to the dog.

This is def the case!!

Everywherenowhere · 25/07/2023 20:01

get a grip @rankings are you always this dramatic!!! no one is saying risk your life. Shout, throw stones or sticks or kick up sand from a safe spot, call your dog back to you. Shout for the dogs owner. Literally do anything that might help while staying safe.

just don’t be the selfish crappy dog owner you are who legged it when another dog just came near yours without even remotely caring for the animal you purposely brought into your household. And please - if something does ever happen your dog do not get another pet.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 25/07/2023 19:20

The staffie thankfully did nothing other than jump up and scare us/our dog but it's more what could of happened

I think that you massively overreacted upon seeing this particular dog . If you cannot cope in a calm manner then you need to look again at how you manage your family outings - eg children on a beach without dogs. Leave yours at home and one of you take him out later .

ScribblingPixie · 25/07/2023 19:01

I think a bit more dog awareness and knowledge on your part wouldn't go amiss, OP.

Hibiscrubbed · 25/07/2023 18:53

I get vibes that you’re a dog owner who rapidly lost interest in the dog when the kids arrived. And that’s not fair on the dog. They don’t understand. You chose to have them and then chose to have the kids. Your H obviously didn’t lose his loyalty to the dog.

Hibiscrubbed · 25/07/2023 18:52

Rehome*

Hibiscrubbed · 25/07/2023 18:52

rankings · 25/07/2023 18:10

Even if I was alone with my dog if he was attacked by a dog I don't think I could reasonably fight off I wouldn't get involved. I'm not going to risk my life for a dog. I don't think you need to risk your life for a dog to be a responsible dog owner. Why would any sane person especially one who has kids actually risk their life over their dog? My kids need a mum.

I can't fight a staffie if it turned nasty, no chance would I send my husband off with the kids and take my chances with a potentially aggressive dog. Should I never go out anywhere with my dog because I'm not willing to die or get attacked for him?

This very dramatic.

And if you’d really walk away from your dog if he was being attacked, rather than hauling him out by a lead/kicking the attacker/throwing something, then regime your dog. They deserve better.

tabulahrasa · 25/07/2023 18:48

rankings · 25/07/2023 18:10

Even if I was alone with my dog if he was attacked by a dog I don't think I could reasonably fight off I wouldn't get involved. I'm not going to risk my life for a dog. I don't think you need to risk your life for a dog to be a responsible dog owner. Why would any sane person especially one who has kids actually risk their life over their dog? My kids need a mum.

I can't fight a staffie if it turned nasty, no chance would I send my husband off with the kids and take my chances with a potentially aggressive dog. Should I never go out anywhere with my dog because I'm not willing to die or get attacked for him?

Honestly... that’s a bit over dramatic

The chances of you risking your life to break up a dog fight are tiny, absolutely tiny. For starters IME 99% of dogs that rush up like that just have social skill issues, they’re actually looking to play but are rude.

Most if the rest will stop as they reach you and do that aggressively circling before a fight breaks out.

and most dog fights are a load of noise and not serious anyway.... if they are, you’re still only risking a bite to your hand, they’re not going to suddenly leap into the air and rip out your throat or anything.

The best thing you can do is grab its collar before it gets to your dog, pop it on your lead and give it to the owner.

If you don’t manage that, put yourself in front of your dog and when it tries to go round you move, and say things like ii, no... because most dogs recognise that even though it’s a pointless command, try a sit, most dogs know that...

Basically you do what you can to stop a fight breaking out to start with and give the owner time to catch up.

You don’t wait for it to start then wrestle it 😐

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