Is it really that hard.....? 🤔

All events should be converted to Indian/Sri Lankan food. Easy and naturally vegan without any horrible fake meat.

( I am not entirely serious).

There are only meat or vegan options when eating out now. Vegans are killing off vegetarians and as someone who has been veggie for 35 years I am not at all ok with this. I do not want to eat frankenstein vegan cheeze or vegan mayo, vegan bread that falls apart and whatever other over processed rubbish is used to make vegan alternatives. I would cater to vegans because I wouldn't want a child to be left out but seriously question why a child has their parents' beliefs imposed on them. Unless they don't like meat/fish surely they should be allowed to eat it until they can decide for themselves as an adult. As for my conundrum, I'm super annoyed that veganism basically means it's back to the early 90s in terms of vegetarian options if i eat out, ie one if you're lucky. Veganism has ruined eating out for vegetarians. I will eat meat before I become a vegan because imho it's a hassle and not healthy. it's not easy. it's a pain being veggie and catering for myself. veganism is a whole different level.

If wine is labelled as vegan or vegetarian it must be so.
Its the law.

You are right about lectins not being good for you
However they are in many other foods not just wheat ie chickens, legumes, potatoes, dairy, nuts etc.
If wet cooked on a high heat the lectins are mostly deactivated.
Seitan is both steamed and fried. So that’s a double whammy of high heat wet cooking.

Something I will always look to now, but from school this last year they all hand out Haribo packs. Still not an option somehow even in Asda, to compete

@StillGotBabyBrain @Iolani
You are always drinking a percentage of crushed spider, and baby bird.
That’s in any wine. No such thing as vegan wine.

Asda is quite good for little packets of vegan sweets actually. Their own brand milk bottles are now suitable for vegans to my amazement. This is whatbyou get on their website with a search for vegan sweets https://groceries.asda.com/search/asda%20vegan%20sweets

Hi OP, long term vegan here wanting to give you back up. We've had mixed experiences over the years, but I've got to say that eating out has got so much easier over the years. If you've paid for an event that includes catering then I certainly would expect to be provided with food. Definitely check before as it might not be automativ to consider vegan options. Realistically, I wouldn't expect much and I'd be aware to get in quick as the omnis would grab it all.

For activities the children were at, in my experience other parents would make an effort - the same as I would for any dietary restriction. Fortunately being vegan generally accommodates halal and kosher very conveniently. Like you, being a vegan is a moral choice for me, and that does not include providing corpses at my table. Meat eating children have usually been happy with a pasta dish or Asian food or as a last resort ready made nuggets and sausage rolls.

I don't want to pick a fight, but is that "good protein"? Wheat gluten powder contains 75% protein but it is gluten which is a lectin and as I understand it there is some debate about whether any they are harmful to human health. If lectins could be harmful and if it is true that vegans have to rely on them as a source of protein isn't that a concern?

I don't know as much about plant protein types as I like but I have recently been reading about the subject and your recipe jumped out at me for that reason

I have to agree that Linda McCartney sausage rolls are amazing. I also know, from buying them, how expensive they are compared to regular sausage rolls. That's not a problem for a small group but catering to a bigger group, with quite a few needed, it probably would be a cost issue. A lot of these organisations run very tight budgets.

@GHxx I've never known a vegetarian who wouldn't eat at afternoon tea because ham sandwiches were on the plate. If you're that strict you would be better off making that clear in advance so a separate plate can be prepared. Similarly re family BBQs etc, they won't have the facilities to have two grills so you need to make it clear that you'll arrive on time and you'd really appreciate if they could cook yours first. Unless you make it clear people won't realise as it's outside the norm.

OP fair enough to expect to be catered in restaurants but YABU about things like school fairs. Volunteers will likely prioritise allergies and intolerances, preferences will be back of the line.

You sound a bit extra. DS has a range of allergies and we wouldn’t expect anyone to cater specifically to him- I just sort it myself.

I do find it a bit much that you’d expect a bunch of parent volunteers raising cash for your kids school to spend extra time/money/stress accommodating you- how would they turn a profit if buying several alternatives for every family with a special diet/allergy?

That’s very sad.
But they’re cheap because they’re using the waste products from the slaughter industry.
Wonder if the kids know what those waste products are and look like 🤢

One day….🤞it will be a kinder world.
Or maybe we’ll all be following the Jonathan Swift diet from last nights Gregg Wallace special……manmade meat…literally.

People are still morning about not having nuts on an aero plane, when that could actually kill someone, but still can't go 2 hours without having a pack of peanuts.

@Iolani that's what I mean really haribo os still unsuitable, but shouldn't be. It's still the go too sweets for everyone, buying a multipack in Asda, there isn't a vegan option that matches the price and availability in supermarkets yet. And still haven't come across the vegan sweets available in small bags to hand out easily yet.

Trust me OP
My three boys have been perfectly capable of wearing my big girl pants since birth.
They’re now grown up and proud to never have eaten a living thing. They are proud and happy and healthy in the kind choices we have passed on. And trust me….fighting the battles along the way and holding up those pants has made them much better people.

So don’t worry if occasionally a parent hasn’t provided for them, they will survive and learn never to leave others out as they have been.

Quite a lot of wine is now OK and in most supermarkets
Its always labelled as such though.

20 years ago they had gelatine in.( when my kids were young)
No idea now.
They wouldn’t eat that sort of stuff now anyway as they didn’t grow up with it but I believe gelatine is being dropped from a lot of food these days. So there’s bound to be alternatives now.

Onwards and upwards

I just wanted to add if you are vegan don’t drink wine. I have seen wine made and it’s not vegan.

No,@Seddon, but that's the outcome if we all go vegan isn't it? Critical thinking is hard isn't it?

Ps
Its pronounced Satan 🤣

@StillGotBabyBrain if you want to risk your children's growth rate and brain development and feed them processed vegan crap, then that's your business.

Personally, I believe that children should be fed as natural a diet as possible until they can choose for themselves, You've removed that choice from them and simultaneously made their social lives more difficult. Poor kids.

She really didn't ask for your opinion on what she eats.

As for coherent arguments... you literally just asked a vegan if they want all the chickens to die. Did all the chickens die when you went vegan? What a twatty question.

I’ve been a veggie ( now vegan ) for 40 plus years and tbh I have never had to put up with the utter crap and nonsense that some on MN come up with
Its only ever on MN.
Friends in the 80s would ask, what do you eat, but that was about it.

Eat what you want to eat and own it.