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HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 06:46

We found a bat in our spare room today. We live in the US. It is currently triple bagged in our refrigerator waiting to be sent to the health authority for analysis for rabies. We won't know if the bat is rabid until Wednesday. We are terrified. We have no idea when or how it got in. We have 2 kids and I am 37 weeks pregnant.

Apparently rabies vaccinations can cost thousands of dollars which we really can't afford right now .

If you believe in the power of prayer please send one up for us. We are very very scared.

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BatShitCrazyInBelgium · 24/07/2023 07:25

Hi, I had a similar experience in Belgium last year which I posted about on here. UK medical advice is that if you have been in a room with a bat and are a young child / sleeping adult, then you should have a full rabies course. This is for any bat outside the UK and I had a potential bite mark on my leg. I didn’t start my course until a week after the possible contact but the incubation period can be up to two years and I could not have coped with the anxiety of potential symptoms and the horror of then knowing it was fatal. The vaccine reduces the risk to virtually nothing.

Once the doctor I saw, saw the video footage of the bats in my room he agreed that I needed a course of vaccinations. I also spoke to a member of the virology / rabies control team in Cardiff who confirmed that I needed a course. We are so lucky here that the NHS provide this service for free and that I didn’t need to worry about cost. OP I hope the results come back as negative and you get some peace of mind, as it is an incredibly worrying situation. It is highly unlikely that you will have been exposed and you can start the course of the vaccine any time after contact, it doesn’t need to be in the first 48 hours, though that is preferred.

Ostryga · 24/07/2023 07:24

ThisIsACoolUserName · 24/07/2023 07:17

I'm not stupid in the slightest. I've read every one of the OP's posts and can't see justification at all for killing the bat. As I say, I'm thankful we do things differently in the UK and bats and other wildlife are protected.

How do you not understand? What is difficult to comprehend?

Honestly the intellect level on MN nowadays is shocking.

oakleaffy · 24/07/2023 07:24

PinkButtercups · 24/07/2023 07:22

So your husband killed the bat but then he spent an hour looking for the bat that was apparently just sat in a field.

No OP you just killed the bat. That's sick.

I'm from the UK had have bats fly around nightly where we live. I certainly don't go round killing them.

Clearly you have no idea that the OP lives in a rabies area, not UK, and the bat needs to be tested to see if it was rabid.

oakleaffy · 24/07/2023 07:22

AxolotlOnions · 24/07/2023 06:09

That's why advice is to leave the poor things alone. Open the window, leave the room, shut the door and if it doesn't leave on its own, try to coax it out after dark by turning on lights. You do not go near it, even to kill it.

It is illegal to kill, disturb or injure an endangered bat, even if it is in your house. Ignorance of the law is no defence. In fact, far from an outcry they tend to make examples of people in this situation to avoid more being killed or the spread of rabies by people who are stupid enough to get near the animals.

Human lives above the life of a potentially rabid bat.

OP I guarantee won't get into any bother for killing a bloody bat that entered her home and put her children at risk.

Even in Australia, farmers are allowed to shoot flying foxes after the death of a little boy who was scratched by one of these bats and died in an horrendous way.

Bats get killed in rabies areas, and will continue to be, law or no law.

I don't blame OP's husband at all.
The bat needed trapping and killing anyway for testing as there is no way of telling if it bit her children.

PinkButtercups · 24/07/2023 07:22

So your husband killed the bat but then he spent an hour looking for the bat that was apparently just sat in a field.

No OP you just killed the bat. That's sick.

I'm from the UK had have bats fly around nightly where we live. I certainly don't go round killing them.

ThisIsACoolUserName · 24/07/2023 07:17

Swrigh1234 · 24/07/2023 07:05

You would think so, but then there is a special kind of stupid roaming among us proven by@JudgeAnderson @ThisIsACoolUserName

I'm not stupid in the slightest. I've read every one of the OP's posts and can't see justification at all for killing the bat. As I say, I'm thankful we do things differently in the UK and bats and other wildlife are protected.

JudgeAnderson · 24/07/2023 07:10

@Swrigh1234 As I've said I grew up in a country with both a prevalence of rabies and bats.
Bats are indigenous wildlife and rescue organisations there take great pains to treat injured ones.
They, unlike the OP and you, are not hysterical and ill informed. The irony of you calling me stupid is hilarious.

Swrigh1234 · 24/07/2023 07:05

Cheesusisgrate · 24/07/2023 06:19

I think some people are just trolling at this point.

You would think so, but then there is a special kind of stupid roaming among us proven by@JudgeAnderson @ThisIsACoolUserName

ThisIsACoolUserName · 24/07/2023 06:56

We've got our problems in the UK, but I'm so grateful that we aren't as quick to kill every creature that happens to cross our path. Poor bat.

PollyThePixie · 24/07/2023 06:40

Op, have the injections if that’s what the authorities advise. I say this as someone who lives in a country where there are rabid Foxes for eg and I would always follow government advice on what to do after being bitten by any animal.

DisquietintheRanks · 24/07/2023 06:29

Well I've been bitten by bats on several occasions and I've totally known about it so I'm finding the idea of undetectable bites a bit far fetched. Most bats are insectivores and don't randomly bite humans (I've only ever been bitten whilst handling them). I'm not saying impossible just incredibly unlikely.

JudgeAnderson · 24/07/2023 06:20

And I'm from a country where both bats and rabies are prevalent and bats used to occasionally get into the house.

They don't randomly fly up and bite you. The only way you'd get bitten is if you handled one and you'd certainly notice.

We'd generally pick them up in a tea towel or similar to put then out.

Cheesusisgrate · 24/07/2023 06:19

I think some people are just trolling at this point.

JudgeAnderson · 24/07/2023 06:18

You found a bat and instead of helping it outside you killed it?!

You are cruel ridiculous people.

AxolotlOnions · 24/07/2023 06:14

QuestionableMouse · 23/07/2023 22:09

Please do tell us how you think they test for rabies?

Hint - it involves dissecting the brain.

Which is why you send in dead ones IF you find them dead. Once rabies symptoms appear it is 100% fatal, the symptoms usually appear in 2-10 days. How long do you think it takes to send a bat to a lab, them test it then send back the results? More than 2 days when I sent one in.

AxolotlOnions · 24/07/2023 06:09

oakleaffy · 23/07/2023 21:28

No one would fine someone from killing a potentially rabid bat that has entered their home with children.

There would be a national outcry.

Don't be so ridiculous.

Tough luck on the bat- it entered someone's dwelling place- people have died of ''rescuing'' bats, by contracting rabies.

That's why advice is to leave the poor things alone. Open the window, leave the room, shut the door and if it doesn't leave on its own, try to coax it out after dark by turning on lights. You do not go near it, even to kill it.

It is illegal to kill, disturb or injure an endangered bat, even if it is in your house. Ignorance of the law is no defence. In fact, far from an outcry they tend to make examples of people in this situation to avoid more being killed or the spread of rabies by people who are stupid enough to get near the animals.

Willyoujustbequiet · 24/07/2023 00:44

CoachBeardsJane · 23/07/2023 07:55

THIS!

Can people stop taking the piss out of op. We're incredibly lucky to live in a country where it's incredibly rare to encounter a rabid animal and if you did it is free for the vaccines.

In the us they have rabies in the wild and the vaccine course can cost thousands per person.

If you're ever asleep in a room with a bat you have to act as though you've been bitten because the teeth are so small you might not wake up and you really won't notice the bite marks.

This.

Always assume you have been bitten. I can't believe the lack of awareness about rabies.

oakleaffy · 24/07/2023 00:35

Anyone doubting how awful it is - an old 1950's health film of a man from infection to death.

"Rabies in a human patient"

For the song please contact me at [email protected].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsYLbphyAI

saltinesandcoffeecups · 23/07/2023 23:57

Caramelsmadfuzzytail · 23/07/2023 23:56

I would like to know what poor sod went through the symptoms so it could be recorded.
I hope your results come back negative.

Sadly a lot.

there was a recent case of a young woman who recovered from it. But the odds are definitely not in the a favor of anyone that contracts it.

Caramelsmadfuzzytail · 23/07/2023 23:56

I would like to know what poor sod went through the symptoms so it could be recorded.
I hope your results come back negative.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 23/07/2023 23:52

BrawnWild · 23/07/2023 23:47

Isnt it illegal to kill them in the USA?

So did you kill it?

If not I hardly think you need to worry about finding a dead bat.

Killing bats may be illegal and often not necessary but nobody has gone to jail in the US for killing one.

I meaner the only way to test for rabies is to examine the brain, so the poor creature’s fate is sealed either way.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 23/07/2023 23:48

If you are in the US you are legally required to have health insurance. If you are living in the US as an expat then you would have health insurance through the employer.

You rock up to the ER, pay your copayment and start the rabies series.

Honestly while not a pleasant experience it is what it is.

Yes rabies is a thing here. That’s not news to anyone, surely. Better to treat for it as a precaution than the alternative.

BrawnWild · 23/07/2023 23:47

Isnt it illegal to kill them in the USA?

So did you kill it?

If not I hardly think you need to worry about finding a dead bat.

Swrigh1234 · 23/07/2023 23:43

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/07/2023 23:05

You seriously need to calm down, unless it bit anyone (which presumably you would have mentioned).

In the UK, you would be committing an offence by handling it. Putting it in 3 plastic bags and in the fridge seems a tad excessive (mean).

What an idiotic comment.