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HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 06:46

We found a bat in our spare room today. We live in the US. It is currently triple bagged in our refrigerator waiting to be sent to the health authority for analysis for rabies. We won't know if the bat is rabid until Wednesday. We are terrified. We have no idea when or how it got in. We have 2 kids and I am 37 weeks pregnant.

Apparently rabies vaccinations can cost thousands of dollars which we really can't afford right now .

If you believe in the power of prayer please send one up for us. We are very very scared.

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rainbowunicorn · 23/07/2023 16:08

Tillyteacup · 23/07/2023 15:11

You are being hysterical and your husband shouldn’t have killed the poor thing.

Maybe you should read the thread or even use Google before you comment on something you clearly know nothing about.
The risk is taken very seriously in the US due to a much higher chance of the bat being infected. The OP has done exactly as she should have and is not being hysterical. The bat is not a poor wee thing and her husband would have been advised to kill it and it be sent for testing.

oakleaffy · 23/07/2023 16:06

That’s good, @HuckleberryBlackcurrant
Best of luck!

Un7breakable · 23/07/2023 16:05

If you were bitten or it was in a room people slept in then you need to be vaccinated before the symptoms start. Rabies is almost always fatal once symptoms start. Insurance should cover it or work out a payment plan.

StefanosHill · 23/07/2023 16:04

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 16:00

@oakleaffy

They said they could rush it as we don't know how long it was in the house. So we should know by Tuesday afternoon

How quickly would you need the vaccine?

rainbowunicorn · 23/07/2023 16:04

10HailMarys · 23/07/2023 08:32

Grow up, for god’s sake

Don't be a dick, for God's sake.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 16:00

@oakleaffy

They said they could rush it as we don't know how long it was in the house. So we should know by Tuesday afternoon

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oakleaffy · 23/07/2023 15:56

@HuckleberryBlackcurrant Really hope the bat tests negative for rabies.
My son went to a rabies endemic country, and I offered to pay the vaccines after seeing the vids online.

You are absolutely right to be concerned- but hopefully odds are in your favour.
How long will brain testing on the bat take?

cannaecookrisotto · 23/07/2023 15:45

This is a copypasta that's done the rounds for years about rabies and it's terrifying:

"Let me paint you a picture.
You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode.
Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed.
Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.)
You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something.
The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms.
It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache?
At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure.
(The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done).
There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate.
Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead.
So what does that look like?
Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles.
Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala.
As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later.
You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts.
You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache.
You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family.
You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you.
Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours.
Then you die. Always, you die.
And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you.
Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over."

cannaecookrisotto · 23/07/2023 15:39

I'm surprised at some of the posts taking the piss, as a general rule in the US, if you wake up to a bat in your bedroom then the advice is assume you've been bitten because you wouldn't even know.

I'd be worried too OP, rabies is absolutely fucking terrifying however I'm sure you'll be fine as rationally the odds are massively in your favour.

oakleaffy · 23/07/2023 15:38

People who have no idea how serious Rabies is ought to look at some of the medical you tube videos.

It is invariably fatal, despite much quoted “Milwaukee protocol”
It’s a dreadful death, People tied to beds-
one child broke free in hospital and exited via a glazed window.

Vaccines are essential after a bite by a suspect animal.

Romanian rescue dogs were stopped by DEFRA last year because of faked Rabies vaccine certification.

It will only be a matter of time before we import Rabies here, sadly.

rosiepozis · 23/07/2023 15:37

Wow, OP, I’m sorry people have been so dismissive. Rabies essentially doesn’t exist here in the UK and this site is very much UK centered so I guess people don’t really understand how bad it is (and its very bad, once you show symptoms the chance of survival is so low and I’m not sure some posters understand that). I understand that the risk in the US is much more significant, especially since you don’t know exactly how long the bat was in your home.

You were right to do what you did, I hope everything works out. Sympathies

StefanosHill · 23/07/2023 15:37

How long does the testing take and do you need the vaccines before you get the results?

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 15:36

@oakleaffy

Yes we are sending the bat for testing

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oakleaffy · 23/07/2023 15:29

muddlingthrou · 23/07/2023 07:46

Rabies develops incredibly fast from what I remember, so if you haven't got any symptoms you're fine.

The vast majority of bats are non-rabid, so the risk is very tiny. I don't know why your brain is jumping to that...

Not true.
A friend was bitten by a dog in a rabies hotspot
She had all the vaccines, driving far to get them.
She was advised TWO years, then she could relax.
OP get vaccines if you think you have been bitten if you live in a rabies area.

They can test the bat I think?

Cheesusisgrate · 23/07/2023 15:28

My native country is now classed as rabiea free but as dog owners, I remember very well the precautions when encountering risky wildlife.
Hopefully it was just sick with something else.

CrunchyCarrot · 23/07/2023 15:26

Rabies develops incredibly fast from what I remember, so if you haven't got any symptoms you're fine.

No it doesn't. It can take weeks for symptoms to appear, of course it depends what part of the body you are bitten, because the virus has to reach your brain.

In the UK of course we don't have to worry about rabies, but since it is 100% fatal then of course you would want to get the bat checked and if need be, get the treatment.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 15:24

@NameChange280
Thank you.

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HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 15:20

@Isntthisniceandnew

We should hear back about the bat by Tuesday and we will be able to get the shots then if it comes back as positive for rabies. Thanks for being understanding. I think a lot of posters from the UK hear rabies and almost think it's an urban myth but it's absolutely not.

I maybe would have thought the same before.i moved over here. But now I know that people just don't survive rabies.

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NameChange280 · 23/07/2023 15:19

This tik tokker is going through the same issue in US.

You can hear her rational for getting the shots. As far as I'm aware you dont need to download the app to view the video?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJVsg661/

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 15:18

@CC4712

We are 12 hrs away from the Canadian border but that may be something to think about actually.

The bat was alive when we found it. It didn't move much though. I think it was stunned. I didn't go near it as I'm pregnant and they can carry all kinds of diseases apart from rabies. My husband did use gloves to handle it and it definitely didn't come into contact with him.

What worries us is the potential it may have been in our house for some time.

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Isntthisniceandnew · 23/07/2023 15:16

I don't think people in the UK realise how much or a risk rabies is in other countries. You must always assume if you're in an area with rabies and you find an animal known to carry rabies that you've been exposed to it. Sorry you're going through this OP but you need to get the shots, the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 15:15

@Tillyteacup
We were told by the health department that 1 in 200 bats carry rabies. And it was acting sick. I think we did the right thing. The only way to test an animal for rabies is to look at it's brain.

We have had raccoons killed on our property as well and would do so again if they posed a risk to our family/pets.

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HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 23/07/2023 15:13

@CoachBeardsJane
Thanks. We can't get a hold of our insurance as it's the weekend. I thought surely the would have some sort of out of hours line but no.

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Tillyteacup · 23/07/2023 15:11

You are being hysterical and your husband shouldn’t have killed the poor thing.