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Is hybrid/remote work dying?

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Finallybreathe · 19/07/2023 21:44

Posting for traffic.

I was looking for a new job and I didn’t want to work in an office full time nor did I want to work from home full time… I was surprised to see how many jobs are no longer remote/hybrid but full time in an office. Thankfully my new job is 3 days at home and 2 days in the office. What’s happened?

What’s the working dynamic like where you are? Are you back in the office full time?

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Boska23 · 01/10/2023 18:14

Company is fully flexible. Most people are 100% remote, a handful goes into our significantly downsized office 1, max 2 times per week.

LuckOfTheDrawer · 01/10/2023 17:59

I recently started working fully remotely - I love it. My colleagues are a mixture of fully remote and hybrid.

Echobelly · 01/10/2023 17:35

Not as far as I'm aware - but I suppose I can imagine businesses advertising new roles as ft hoping there are enough people needing the work to take it, and thus normalise office attendence. As far as I can tell, a lot of knowledge-type businesses like mine find 2-3 days a week works well enough and attracts good people, so they are sticking with it.

DinnaeFashYersel · 01/10/2023 17:27

We tried hybrid but have now gone fully remote.

My DH has wfh for 10 years.

Cakecakecheese · 01/10/2023 17:18

I've worked full time at home for around 10 years. Since covid most departments at the company I work for have moved to hybrid working and they've moved to a smaller office.

Tangled123 · 01/10/2023 17:16

@theholidaymum They did full time working from home during Covid but had gone back in the office before I started working there. My colleagues don’t seem bothered by the change though, some have their own agreements so aren’t affected and some hardly WFH anyway. My previous employer didn’t even let us WFH at all, so even 1 day a week is better than that.

SpainToday · 01/10/2023 16:28

theholidaymum · 01/10/2023 10:32

@SpainToday have you had the contract changes to hybrid working and how many days?

Anyone new coming in has hybrid in their contract, and existing staff now follow the hybrid policy, which is 2 days in office 3 at home. Also, most of our former offices are gone, the new office will accommodate 40% occupancy

lollydu · 01/10/2023 13:21

My employer fully embraced hybrid working. Sold off two buildings and poured the money into their one remaining building and now we have a lovely office to work from 2 days a week and 3 days from home.

TheKeatingFive · 01/10/2023 13:16

3 days in, 2 from home. It feels right for the business/industry I'm in. We need a certain amount of face to face time together to do job at a high level.

Finallybreathe · 01/10/2023 12:57

Glad it’s not only me noticing this trend… my employer confirmed a few weeks ago via email they are committed to hybrid working as it increases productivity and it’s what most people work.

Personally I wouldn’t accept a job that was full time in the office (even with a pay increase) unless it was within a few miles away from my home

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Ginmonkeyagain · 01/10/2023 12:08

We are expected to be in the office at least 60% of the time. No set days, we are trusted to make local arrangements that work for us and our teams.

In person attendance to department meetings and team away days is now mandatory.

If you want anything different from the 60% you need to apply for a flexible working contract in the normal way.

theholidaymum · 01/10/2023 10:47

@Tangled123 what did your company do during covid? There must be fighting back from the employees especially office workers and senior level? This week along our company has 3 resignations on the spot. And 2 got new jobs so reigned. Our company is Tech company so they can totally be flexible, and they are already hiring employees overseas. So whatever they are doing just seem not right. It would be easier if there were consultations period with the employees or votings, rather than just put up a policy and expecting everyone to follow it.

Tangled123 · 01/10/2023 10:37

Used to be one day a week at home, they’ve now cut down to only 4 days a month and we can no longer WFH on Wednesdays. They can be flexible with it though if you need to work at home because of childcare etc.

theholidaymum · 01/10/2023 10:32

@SpainToday have you had the contract changes to hybrid working and how many days?

SpainToday · 01/10/2023 10:13

I am public sector, people don’t apply for vacancies unless hybrid is offered. Thankfully this has all been rubbed stamped by the unions

Goldmember · 01/10/2023 10:10

We have no office, gave up the lease in 2021. The boss has talked about getting somewhere else as he struggles to concentrate at home with 2 young kids. The rest of us don't have those distractions though so he has set up a hot desk workspace elsewhere for himself and has offered for us to do the same if we want but we don't need to.

StillWantingADog · 01/10/2023 10:06

Kath85 · 01/10/2023 10:04

We are in full time, wfh not allowed at all and that’s standard in my industry even though it’s office based

Curious, what happened in covid? Were
you at home and then suddenly they said everyone back in?

Kath85 · 01/10/2023 10:04

We are in full time, wfh not allowed at all and that’s standard in my industry even though it’s office based

Couldyounot · 01/10/2023 10:03

Our place downsized from its own office building to a couple of floors in a larger building, which meant that the maximum number of people who can go into the office is about a third of the total workforce. Notwithstanding this, management has just increased the number of mandatory office days. Not sure how that will work. Presumably we will be sitting on each other's laps.

Zanatdy · 01/10/2023 09:55

Ours is 2 days office, 3 at home and I find that very flexible. I think our work place is moving towards more 60% to be honest, but staff don’t know it yet. Might not happen. Suits me to go in, but I have a lot of meetings and can’t have them all on the office floor, so some days I have to stay home as I’ve no choice

PermanentTemporary · 01/10/2023 09:53

@wenfy that's depressing but very interesting.

theholidaymum · 01/10/2023 09:49

i notice the same. Any jobs with fully on site requirements have significant higher pay and a lot less candidates. I don’t think our company will ever go for fully onsite just for that reason. Personally even with double pay I won’t be able to commit to anything 💯 on-site either, for my mental health and well-being. I value 1 extra day long commute (2-3hrs a day) = at least 10% pay for me.
Question is 2 days office is the norm or 3 days office are more popular? I don’t want to sound unreasonable with my request or limit myself in the job market either.

Colourfulponderings · 01/10/2023 08:52

Fully remote. I’ve been approached by 8 different recruiters over 2 months for a similar role on a salary almost double the market rate but based full time in the office.

Every time I refuse to go for it based on being office based they say they’re really struggling to recruit for that reason. So I don’t think fully office based is the norm yet by any means.

(I also think the issue is they want someone experienced and senior who are more likely to have family by this point in their lives and value remote working).

theholidaymum · 01/10/2023 08:48

recently our managers want us (the whole company) to go in the office 2 days/ week , 3 days wfh (from a very flexible 1 day a week office), with the comment that it may be more days in the office in the future (I think they are pushing for 3 days office).
My limit of going to the office is probably 2 days a week in London, or 3 days office with a local company (way less time spend on commuting and travel costs for me).
Wondering how many days everyone going to the office at the moment? what is the norm? Is it part of your contract regarding the wfh arrangement? Should I look into fixing the contract to 3 days wfh? or else I will look elsewhere.

SpainToday · 20/07/2023 21:32

We’re hybrid - 2 days office, 3 at home. Seems to suit everyone!

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