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Some people can only talk about themselves..

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Whatkindofuckeryisthis · 14/07/2023 12:38

There’s two people at my work (office type job) who only seem capable of talking about themselves. They come to my door and say ‘how are you?’ Or ‘how is your son?’… I answer and they then proceed to talk about themselves. No matter what my reply was! I nod and join in and try and ask questions back and interject with things about me…. For example.. asked about my holiday then told me about when she went, everything they did there years ago and didn’t listen to anything I said, I tried to join in with ‘oh we went there’ or ‘we ate at this place’ and she just talked over me!

It’s the same every time she talks to me and also one other lady is the same! It’s so frustrating that I pretend I’m on the phone when they pass to avoid it!

Why are people so weird?! How do you deal with these interactions?

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WanderingWitches · 17/07/2023 19:01

JLou08 · 17/07/2023 18:14

You could try letter/text/email to give them time and space to process what your saying. For some ND people any conversation can cause anxiety and that's amplified when there is confrontation. When I am feeling very anxious its hard to think clearly and be able to understand what's being said to me.

I much prefer answering via text. I can think about my answer and don't feel on the spot.
I remember at the start of our relationship, my dh and I had an argument over something stupid. I cannot argue at all because I just can't think quickly enough. I ended up just stood there with my hands over my ears saying stop. If we do have a disagreement, we end up texting because I can say what I want much more freely that way.

JLou08 · 17/07/2023 18:14

Thepeopleversuswork · 17/07/2023 09:03

@WanderingWitches

Because its absolutely exhausting. It never becomes like second nature, you don't truly learn it so you end up having to have a script for every interaction. If the NT person then says something you haven't prepared for, then it all goes to shit.

OK that's helpful.

Does that mean you have to script every conversation which includes a question? Is it reciprocity and spontaneity itself which is the source of the upset?

How do conversations work with close family and relatives in this scenario? How do intimate conversations play out if someone you love and trust says something you don't expect in conversation or if they ask for something you haven't planned for?

eg if someone you love says "the way you dealt with that situation really pissed me off, I'd like you to think more about x in future"... how does a neurodiverse person deal with this?

I'm curious to understand how this circle gets squared in real life. Because obviously one can plan to some extent for this and make allowances etc. But family life (and life in relationships) inevitably involves some unscripted and unexpected interactions and some discussions which involve confrontation and stress. How can a NT person support a ND person to learn from experiences or guide them/steer them to coexist with NT people without this sort of alienation?

You could try letter/text/email to give them time and space to process what your saying. For some ND people any conversation can cause anxiety and that's amplified when there is confrontation. When I am feeling very anxious its hard to think clearly and be able to understand what's being said to me.

CruCru · 17/07/2023 17:16

I have a friend who does this. The thing is, usually I don’t mind too much - I can sit and nod for up to an hour when things are normal.

Recently my Dad died, my Mum had cancer and we had another thing going on … and she still talked pretty much the whole time. This annoyed me more, partly because I have less in the tank to give other people.

I remember someone once saying that there is a social contract when you meet one other person - each person must be able to speak for at least a third of the time to have a nice time.

AcrossthePond55 · 17/07/2023 16:26

Justleaveitblankthen · 17/07/2023 08:33

I had a friend like this. She would give me chapter and verse on a particular (very niche) TV show that she loved. I had zero interest and she couldn't seem to twig I would watch it myself if I did.

Am definitely guilty of being a 'good listener' though and would nod my way through it with regularly: "Really?/wow!/right/ah ok...As the hour wore on my responses became more muted 😂

This was all on very rare nights out and would take up half the night when we could have been dancing or mixing with others etc..
It was draining.

She monopolised every other conversation to talk only about herself too and never asked about anyone else. Ever.

If it'd been a friend, I'd have said (nicely) to 'can it'. But when it's your BOSS doing that could have 'negative consequences'. lol

Luckily she retired before I did so I had a few years' peace.

Artycrafts · 17/07/2023 14:28

In my experience, the person is normally a narcissistic bully. I've been on the receiving end of this twice, in employment. They are not interested in you but as soon as they realise you are a threat, they overwhelm you.

CoffeeCantata · 17/07/2023 12:56

When I was a 'green' young mother and going to playgroups not knowing anyone, I was invited by another mum to have coffee one morning. I'd already had a good dose of monologue from her, but accepted the invitation. She spent the whole time talking about herself, didn't ask a single question and looked annoyed and impatient whenever I tried to change the subject. I decided this relationship wasn't going anywhere!

But when I next saw her, she spent ages moaning to me about having been to someone's house where they'd talked about themselves all the time. Apparently it was very boring!! Who knew?

Thepeopleversuswork · 17/07/2023 12:46

That's not allpeople, though, most people are genuinely interested in the lives of their actual friends and family. It's the people who have strong narcissistic traits that couldn't care less and don't want to talk about anything if it's not about them.

I'm not sure that's true tbh. I'm often really not that interested in other people's lives, if I'm brutally honest. I am genuinely interested in some people (either because I love/like them or because they have intrinsically interesting lives).

But a good third of the people in my life I'm frankly not naturally that interested in and I do also find a lot of other people's home/family trivia incredibly boring. If someone has travelled to Russia on their own I'm genuinely fascinated. If they've just had new carpets fitted I couldn't really give a tinker's cuss.

So I have to make a mental note to feign interest in their kitchen refurbishment progress or their wedding (weddings in particular I find really heart-stoppingly dull) or whether their kids are succeeding at learning to play the electric bass. It doesn't come naturally and sometimes I forget to ask. I'm not ND or a narcissist just a bit selfish (and very busy and know a lot of people).

But I've acquired enough social skill and experience over the years to know that this is part of the currency of life and I suck it up because I would be a bit of an arsehole if I didn't. So I fake it and it flows more or less naturally.

Excepting ND people I don't really understand why other people can't fake it too. It costs nothing to nudge yourself sometimes to stop and ask someone a pretend interested question.

barbarahunter · 17/07/2023 12:23

I remember as a young woman, telling my mum about a friend of mine who had just gone through a terrible experience and how hard it must have been for her. My mum's response? 'well I've had a terrible time too'

Barold · 17/07/2023 12:04

Daddydog · 17/07/2023 11:53

@Barold but I bet even though you can't help it, becuse you are actively trying your best to filter the chaos in your brain, your a better conversationalist then most people! :)

It's like what I mean to say, what I think I say and what I actually say are three different things. I always believe I've blurted the 'knobby' thing. Thankfully my partner acts like my 'guide dog' for my mouth and it's never quite as bad as I think!

Ha! I need a guide dog for my mouth! I actually do that for other people but I just can't seem to do it 'from the inside'!

<Sigh> As long as we're trying our best, that's all we can do! Smile

liverpoolgal82 · 17/07/2023 11:57

XenoBitch · 16/07/2023 23:06

Yes, I have had to cut ties with someone like this. It was getting far too much.
If you had gone to Tenerife, she had gone to Elevenerife.

Elevenerife- too funny!

Daddydog · 17/07/2023 11:53

@Barold but I bet even though you can't help it, becuse you are actively trying your best to filter the chaos in your brain, your a better conversationalist then most people! :)

It's like what I mean to say, what I think I say and what I actually say are three different things. I always believe I've blurted the 'knobby' thing. Thankfully my partner acts like my 'guide dog' for my mouth and it's never quite as bad as I think!

marblesthecat · 17/07/2023 11:49

horseyhorsey17 · 17/07/2023 11:35

That's not all people, though, most people are genuinely interested in the lives of their actual friends and family. It's the people who have strong narcissistic traits that couldn't care less and don't want to talk about anything if it's not about them. I don't think they're all bad people but some of them are boring and irritating - well unless you enjoy three hour conversations about eg their facial filler, which personally I don't. It's not like they even listen to any views you might have about it anyway.

I just think people have a lot going on and have their own lives so they often don't remember a lot of what acquaintances tell them. Which is fine if it's quick chit chat in passing and they ask about your kids to be polite but it's a bit annoying when someone is asking me to look up recipes for them or write down skincare products. I think she just asks me as a sort of social bonding or maybe she really does intend to, who knows.

IncognitoMam · 17/07/2023 11:43

cleanasawhistle · 17/07/2023 08:14

I am a good listener,very rare of me to say to anyone that I'm having a bad time.

Two times come to mind....
Phoned a friend to tell her I had breast cancer...oh no not you as well,a lady I work with has just been diagnosed and ...etc etc etc.

Was having a rough time about a month ago a friend asked how I was and instead of the usual cheery smile and I am fine thanks I actually said I was feeling quite low because....she said oh I know because I get like that and ....etc etc...then after what seemed like an age listening to her she said well you can always talk to me,right must go now bye
I wanted to scream well I was trying to do just that but now you are going.

That's terrible they aren't friends. How are you doing now?

Barold · 17/07/2023 11:38

horseyhorsey17 · 17/07/2023 11:30

I mean, this is how conversation works. But it's definitely going to be harder if you have ADHD.

Appreciate you being gentle with me! Grin

I really do try (and I actually listen and retain info people tell me really well) but the chaos of my train of thought and the impulsivity of my responses probably don’t demonstrate any of that!

ClawedButler · 17/07/2023 11:35

Have a relative like this. Whatever is going on for anyone else, this person has it worse.

If your dear old aunties has died, they inform you that their aunt was abusive to them as a child.
If you break a bone, they tell you they know just what it's like because they had a sprain once.
If you are going on holiday, they mention that they cannot go on holiday because of xyz ailment, and such-and-such an insurmountable problem.

It's soul-destroying.

horseyhorsey17 · 17/07/2023 11:35

marblesthecat · 17/07/2023 11:06

I've realised lately that people generally don't actually listen to what you're saying. A certain work colleague always asks me questions about my life and will ask for recipes or skincare recommendations and will never ever use any of it. Then she'll ask me the same stuff again. What's even the point? I don't expect people to be interested in my life but why even ask if you're not going to listen?

That's not all people, though, most people are genuinely interested in the lives of their actual friends and family. It's the people who have strong narcissistic traits that couldn't care less and don't want to talk about anything if it's not about them. I don't think they're all bad people but some of them are boring and irritating - well unless you enjoy three hour conversations about eg their facial filler, which personally I don't. It's not like they even listen to any views you might have about it anyway.

Barold · 17/07/2023 11:32

marblesthecat · 17/07/2023 11:24

Haha no!

It would have been amazing if it was the same person! 😂

MooMa83 · 17/07/2023 11:32

A lot of my DH's friends are like this....my interpretation of it is that it shows a real lack of social skills. Very draining people to be around! I start of being polite then after awhile end up withdrawing from conversation.

unicornhair · 17/07/2023 11:31

I have a neighbour like this. he doesn’t even say hello, just starts talking about himself. It’s very odd. He’s a teacher so you’d think he would have some communication skills.

horseyhorsey17 · 17/07/2023 11:30

Barold · 17/07/2023 11:10

ADHD with some autistic traits here and same!

I actually don’t really want to share anything but I equally don’t have the curiosity to ask many questions - I just hate inorganic chat. I find it difficult to get the balance right and can’t really figure out how to show that I understand/empathise without sharing something I’ve experienced. I basically can barely speak (and seem like a twat) or I say too much (and seem like a twat).

So I’m still a knob but I can’t really seem to sort it out. 😂

And, yes, I just made this about me. 🤦🏼‍♀️

I mean, this is how conversation works. But it's definitely going to be harder if you have ADHD.

horseyhorsey17 · 17/07/2023 11:28

SallyWD · 17/07/2023 10:39

Oh that's so interesting! I have often wondered if my friend has narcissistic tenancies. I mean she has been lovely and kind to me in the past but her focus has always been very much on herself. I've seen how she is in her romantic relationships (which are always short lived) and it's always about her! She never gives any thought to what her partner wants or needs.

Same with my sister, only expand that to every member of the family. Her last partner left her because of it, and so did the one before. Obvs she can't see that though - in fact she's likely to project and describe them as narcissists. She is quite an extreme case of NPD though, complete with narcissistic rage. I think narcissism exists as a spectrum - we're all capable of it, but for some people, it's the defining trait in their personality.

marblesthecat · 17/07/2023 11:24

Barold · 17/07/2023 11:12

Does her name begin with a J? 😂 I worked with someone who did this endlessly (skincare, I can’t cook).

Haha no!

Barold · 17/07/2023 11:12

marblesthecat · 17/07/2023 11:06

I've realised lately that people generally don't actually listen to what you're saying. A certain work colleague always asks me questions about my life and will ask for recipes or skincare recommendations and will never ever use any of it. Then she'll ask me the same stuff again. What's even the point? I don't expect people to be interested in my life but why even ask if you're not going to listen?

Does her name begin with a J? 😂 I worked with someone who did this endlessly (skincare, I can’t cook).

Barold · 17/07/2023 11:10

nasanas · 16/07/2023 23:14

I'm autistic and I used to do this because I thought that was how you communicated during conversations. You ask about the person then find something of your own to help connect with them.

Turns out I was just being a total knob. I had no idea.

ADHD with some autistic traits here and same!

I actually don’t really want to share anything but I equally don’t have the curiosity to ask many questions - I just hate inorganic chat. I find it difficult to get the balance right and can’t really figure out how to show that I understand/empathise without sharing something I’ve experienced. I basically can barely speak (and seem like a twat) or I say too much (and seem like a twat).

So I’m still a knob but I can’t really seem to sort it out. 😂

And, yes, I just made this about me. 🤦🏼‍♀️

crimsonlake · 17/07/2023 11:08

I work with someone like this and initially I was friendly with her until I realised she was only interested in talking about herself. I would attempt to interject the conversation, she would simply pause to look at me then carry on with her own monologue. I now keep my distance as she is to coin a phrase an 'energy vampire', sucks the energy right out of you.

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