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Have school got this wrong?

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princeofegypt · 14/07/2023 10:57

DD 8, class mix up at school.

She's not been moved with any of her friends. Literally her new class has one person she's is friendly with, DD wrote them on her 'list' as they were sat next to each other that day.

Three form entry school, across the year DD has lots of friends, they've all been grouped together in one class which has made DD assume she's done something wrong as has been separated.

We've been into school to understand why abc teacher feels the mix will be better, we agree in the long run as lots of arguments in current class.

However DD is besides herself, not eating not sleeping so so sad. Friends are so important to her and she already dislikes school.

Whilst the mix might work eventually I'm worried the trauma its causing is outweighing and positives and I'm genuinely concerned for her mental health.

Have school got it wrong and I push for her to be moved?

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Ineedsleepandcoffee · 14/07/2023 18:27

Ladybrrrd · 14/07/2023 16:49

It shouldn't make amy difference in class as she'll be learning and shouldn't be chatting! Remind her that she'll see her friends in the playground and it's a great opportunity to make new friends. I guarantee you they won't change their minds so you need to get her used to the idea. She'll get over it in time.

Interaction between peers was a major part of learning when my daughter's were in primary and what they are doing and who they are interacting with in class, does extend to the playground. A lot of children will cope fine and just get on with it but some children will struggle greatly with the changes and that can have lasting effects.

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 14/07/2023 18:01

There may be lots of reasons the school have done this, including perhaps people in the other class asking to be separated for some reason.

As others have said, in a lot of schools no matter how much you complain, nothing will change - you don't have a right to insist your child is in a certain class - that wouldn't be workable!

NerrSnerr · 14/07/2023 17:53

My daughter was in a different class this year from all of her friends (year 4). She still plays with the others but has a load of new friends. It is been fine and I'm glad it happened. Will make the move to secondary easier I think, knowing that it's not the end of the world to not be with who they want to be

berksandbeyond · 14/07/2023 17:53

She got put with someone she wrote down? So you can’t really complain. I agree with building resilience. Sounds like you need to build some too..

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 14/07/2023 17:52

Oh OP, I know it feels like the end of the world for your daughter, but she'll soon settle in to her new class and all this worry will soon be forgotten.

Foxesandsquirrels · 14/07/2023 17:29

ReformedWaywardTeen · 14/07/2023 17:25

Maybe not, but the child is so upset it's effecting their general well being, which could mark them out for bullying. With their friends in the other classes, she will have no support.

You are positively joking?

Floralnomad · 14/07/2023 17:28

You are making this worse by allowing it to be a drama instead of putting a positive spin on it . The school have to arrange around 90 children ( 3 form) you cannot keep everyone happy . There is a lot more to balancing the classes than keeping people with all their friends .

booksandbrooks · 14/07/2023 17:27

Kids vibe off their parent's reactions so it's your job to keep it calm and look to the positive. Whilst still being empathetic.

Class mixing is a complicated process weighing up many different needs as well as diversity and inclusion.

Of course it's nice to be with your friends but you don't get put in sets at secondary based on your chums so as painful as it is now, it's good practice as you can't avoid it forever. Help her deal with it proactively now. Plan regular play dates with friends in other class/ make friendship bracelets etc. At the end of the day she's in the classroom to learn and presumably they can still play at break.

It's highly possible the school think her friendship group are holding her back and she'll thrive in a new group.

ReformedWaywardTeen · 14/07/2023 17:27

PeggyPoggle · 14/07/2023 16:39

With the amount of dramatic parents there are on this thread, there's no wonder so many kids are struggling at the moment.

Hardly dramatic in my case, I was speaking directly from lived experience. I took my DD several years to get over the awful events at their primary school, including specialist mentoring for two years at secondary, all because her useless school decided to blame her "lack of resilience".

ReformedWaywardTeen · 14/07/2023 17:25

Foxesandsquirrels · 14/07/2023 13:39

@ReformedWaywardTeen There's nothing to suggest that OPs child is moving into a class with their bully though.

Maybe not, but the child is so upset it's effecting their general well being, which could mark them out for bullying. With their friends in the other classes, she will have no support.

Gilmorehill · 14/07/2023 17:24

princeofegypt · 14/07/2023 11:15

So to build resilience we should mentally break children?

No your child will not be broken. However you are not helping her if this is your attitude to the situation. You need to exhibit a positive, optimistic attitude and that will help her.

sunglassesonthetable · 14/07/2023 17:22

And the here was no "fight" just a discussion.

sunglassesonthetable · 14/07/2023 17:21

My child was moved and it wasn't a spectacularly unusual occurrence. Just for balance .

Ladybrrrd · 14/07/2023 17:07

Fact or Opinion?

If they do I'd eat my hat. It's almost a certainty and it's not worth fighting it. I've worked in schools for over a decade and I've been the one making the decisions and dealing with complaints. Its unfortunate that she's unhappy, but the school has made the moves for a reason, will have spent ages drawing up the plans, and are very, very unlikely to change it. If they let one change they'd be opening the floodgates for more.

As I said, she'll have plenty of time in the playground to chat with her friends and play games.

sunglassesonthetable · 14/07/2023 17:00

I guarantee you they won't change their minds so you need to get her used to the idea.

Fact or Opinion?

cansu · 14/07/2023 16:58

Mentally broken is a very OTT phrase to describe the disappointment of being in a different class. You say she has a friend that she put on her list. You should be bigging up the positives and distracting her. Talking about her being mentally broken is utterly ridiculous.

LlynTegid · 14/07/2023 16:55

The suggestion of reaching out to the mums (or dads) of those who the OPs DD will be with next school year is a good one. Supporting through change not trying to avoid it.

CindersAgain · 14/07/2023 16:52

*put

CindersAgain · 14/07/2023 16:52

I’d point out to her that she hasn’t done anything wrong, as she has been out with one person that she put on her list.

Ladybrrrd · 14/07/2023 16:49

It shouldn't make amy difference in class as she'll be learning and shouldn't be chatting! Remind her that she'll see her friends in the playground and it's a great opportunity to make new friends. I guarantee you they won't change their minds so you need to get her used to the idea. She'll get over it in time.

sunglassesonthetable · 14/07/2023 16:43

Dear Peggy 🙄

PeggyPoggle · 14/07/2023 16:39

With the amount of dramatic parents there are on this thread, there's no wonder so many kids are struggling at the moment.

Testina · 14/07/2023 16:27

princeofegypt · 14/07/2023 11:15

So to build resilience we should mentally break children?

No, to build resilience we should stop teaching them that an ordinary suck-it-up part of life means mentally breaking someone.

sunglassesonthetable · 14/07/2023 16:22

*children have solid friendships and friendships of convenience, just like adults.

If two friends are truly long term compatible, being placed in different classes won't affect that*

Excellent advice for a sad child. 🙄

"just hang on in there. You'll see which ones are just for convenience... "

orangeleavesinautumn · 14/07/2023 15:54

sunglassesonthetable · 14/07/2023 14:14

not a solid friend ship, a friendship of convenience, yes

Oh please. I've seen it all now.

She's 8 . Stop with the ah but is it a solid friendship ? guff.

Who cares. A friendship of convenience my arse. She doesn't know! She just has friends.

You're in your 50s you've worked it out. Stop comparing your friendships to this child's.

children have solid friendships and friendships of convenience, just like adults.

If two friends are truly long term compatible, being placed in different classes won't affect that