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Cocaine use

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Sandydune · 14/07/2023 09:24

My daughter is 19 and currently at home having finished her first year at university.
Yesterday my husband found a small bag of mostly used cocaine in her trouser pocket when he put a wash on.
We have had a rocky relationship over the past few years and a number of issues relating to school and behaviour etc. However, she survived her year at uni, seemed to do ok and is now working full time over the summer.
She is completely minimising this - everyone does it, no-one else’s parents think it’s a big deal etc. I’m not naive and realised she may have tried but I always made it clear that I would not accept drugs in the house.
She does not see this as a problem so I doubt she could be encouraged to seek help. I wouldn’t be completely averse to calling the police, but not sure they woukd take it seriously or it would have any impact on her.
She has always been able to make me doubt myself as a parent. However, she stays here rent free, has use of a car, I’ve financially supported her through uni and keep trying to build a better relationship even though she can be quite rude and unkind.
YANBU - you should be asking her to find somewhere else to live and take away the car and uni support given her lack of respect.
YABU - she’s right. Most people her age do it and it’s not such a big deal.

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Swannyb · 16/07/2023 04:15

Landndialamrhf · 15/07/2023 19:16

Pp saying she’s probably dealing because of the bag, would you have her buy it and just hold it in her hand until she wants to use it 😂

op cocaine can actually be calming for people with ADHD, maybe ask her how she feels with it? It can replicate adhd medication for some people, so maybe she’d just like to take more approved drugs that have less risks!

I didn’t say/mean she was dealing. I meant there is a difference in doing an unplanned line on offer at a party Vs. she is potentially the one buying the coke and sharing it with others - that isn’t drug dealing, but it does carry more risk.

Whyisegg · 15/07/2023 23:01

Also self medicating for ADHD is such a stretch - experimenting with drugs is a totally normal youthful experience. Maybe someone gave her a line and she put the bag in her pocket and forgot about it. If there aren't obvious signs of drug abuse (going missing for days, not going to work/school, losing weight, poor hygiene) I think it's safe to assume this is an exception.

Whyisegg · 15/07/2023 22:58

Anyone who forgets a baggy in their jeans does not have a problem. When the baggies are ripped open and licked clean it's a problem 😂

Landndialamrhf · 15/07/2023 19:16

Pp saying she’s probably dealing because of the bag, would you have her buy it and just hold it in her hand until she wants to use it 😂

op cocaine can actually be calming for people with ADHD, maybe ask her how she feels with it? It can replicate adhd medication for some people, so maybe she’d just like to take more approved drugs that have less risks!

Swannyb · 15/07/2023 10:18

What would concern me is that she had the bag of it on her - it isn’t just a case of her doing a line at a party because it’s there on offer. She’s potentially the one sourcing it and giving it out to others (and carrying it if she was searched by police!).

As a once semi ‘wild child’ who wasn’t particularly close with her mum, I would be hard enough on her that if she’s caught again, she’s out the house, no car etc. and mean it.

FlyingUnicornWings · 15/07/2023 10:14

Sandydune · 14/07/2023 23:32

Thank you @FlyingUnicornWings . Some helpful advice there. 💐

You’re welcome. The hardest age to parent. You’re transitioning from parent-child to an adult-adult relationship which is so unbelievably hard on many levels for you both. Go easy on yourself. Also I highly recommend Russel Barkley for adhd help if you haven’t found his stuff already.

Sandydune · 14/07/2023 23:32

Thank you @FlyingUnicornWings . Some helpful advice there. 💐

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SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 14/07/2023 21:48

I’ve done a lot of reading round but I’d never come across rejection sensitive dismorphia. The description is exactly like her.

Pretty sure my M has it and my DD. Are you able to talk to her at all? Maybe somewhere neutral, if you take her out for a meal?

At least if you know about RSD you might have a better chance of dealing with her Flowers

Sandydune · 14/07/2023 20:22

@SiouxsieSiouxStiletto I’ve done a lot of reading round but I’d never come across rejection sensitive dismorphia. The description is exactly like her. 💐

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FlyingUnicornWings · 14/07/2023 12:02

PTSDBarbiegirl · 14/07/2023 11:42

If she has ADHD she is literally self medicating in using Cocaine. I'd look into this and involve her, she needs medication if Cocaine is helpful to her. I know that sounds crazy but it's common for amphetamines and Cocaine, caffeine to help ADHD symptoms hence it commonly comorbids with addiction. Stimulants don't affect adhd in same way.

Also this. Cocaine has a similar effect as stimulants on the adhd brain. It’s calming rather than an “upper”.

DustyLee123 · 14/07/2023 12:01

I’d say not in my house, and she’d need to become more financially independent. But she is working and studying, so it could be worse.

FlyingUnicornWings · 14/07/2023 11:59

Sandydune · 14/07/2023 10:18

Thank you for all your replies.
Lots to think about.
She has struggled over the last few years and I worry about her physical and mental health. I have tried everything - family counselling which she refused after two sessions, individual counselling, private psychiatrist (who diagnosed her with ADHD but she won’t take medication).
Trying to reason with her is so hard - she just blames me for being a rubbish Mum (hence my self-doubt). Consequences have been difficult in the past because of extreme reactions where we fear for her safety. I have tried to get help through parenting courses etc myself.
I have been tentatively pleased that she seems to be slowly maturing, now this.
Some good advice here - much appreciated. I will try to keep communication open but she needs to know the severity of her actions.

There’s a theory that people with ADHD are 20% younger emotionally than their actual age. So if you take this into consideration, you are communicating with a 15.5 year old (or thereabouts). It’s such a tough age anyway, without adding this into the equation so I really feel for you.

I’d recommend open communication about the risks if she’ll listen to you. Try not to accost her but maybe weave it into another chat when she’s in a communicative mood. Respect her as an adult and her choices, but also stay firm on your boundaries (no drugs in the house etc). I’d absolutely sit down and work out how much she should be paying in rent/towards food/utilities/petrol, as pp have said, if she can afford coke, she should be contributing. I’d be firm on this. I’d also consider the use of the car if she’s potentially driving under the influence. I’d get her to do her own laundry too, but as the mum of an adhd child of the same age they will just walk around in dirty clothes, so that’s a bit hopeless.

As a parent of a few kids, this is by far the hardest age. They’re in and out of the nest and you have to step away, step back in, step away again, but with the neurodivergence and additional needs that come with that, it’s really really tough.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 14/07/2023 11:42

Sandydune · 14/07/2023 10:18

Thank you for all your replies.
Lots to think about.
She has struggled over the last few years and I worry about her physical and mental health. I have tried everything - family counselling which she refused after two sessions, individual counselling, private psychiatrist (who diagnosed her with ADHD but she won’t take medication).
Trying to reason with her is so hard - she just blames me for being a rubbish Mum (hence my self-doubt). Consequences have been difficult in the past because of extreme reactions where we fear for her safety. I have tried to get help through parenting courses etc myself.
I have been tentatively pleased that she seems to be slowly maturing, now this.
Some good advice here - much appreciated. I will try to keep communication open but she needs to know the severity of her actions.

If she has ADHD she is literally self medicating in using Cocaine. I'd look into this and involve her, she needs medication if Cocaine is helpful to her. I know that sounds crazy but it's common for amphetamines and Cocaine, caffeine to help ADHD symptoms hence it commonly comorbids with addiction. Stimulants don't affect adhd in same way.

HelloFreshed · 14/07/2023 11:41

Whilst I agree that a lot of young people are doing it and have done it before (myself included; pre children), I think she was incredibly disrespectful to bring it into the family home and downplay it.

I would have having some serious talks with her and honestly if she has an attitude about it; tell her to pack her bags.

Mumtothreegirlies · 14/07/2023 11:39

Peacoffee · 14/07/2023 10:10

Cocain and other drugs are actually incredibly common particularly in universities.

Yes but that doesn’t make it okay.
Ive worked in rehab clinics with a lot of coke addicts, it’s not normal and people like you need to stop normalising it. Taking cocaine is never normal or okay!

PTSDBarbiegirl · 14/07/2023 11:36

I'd massively open up the communication pathways, tell her found it and know what it is and then talk to her. Cocaine is everywhere for that age group but so are pills and all sorts of other v dangerous stuff, ketamine, fentanyl and worse. My DS was same, I had to build up my relationship in a different way so he would honestly tell me what he had taken, what was around. I told him about the drugs that were around in my teens and told him about the overdoses and early deaths too. He tells me near enough everything and at least I can educate him about amounts, active components, dangers of mixing drugs. It's a toxic culture and anyone with kids would be naive to believe their kids are not vulnerable to it.

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 14/07/2023 11:30

I did post that before the OP mentioned ADHD.

Whilst I still think that she's been financially supporting the local drug dealer, ADHD makes things much more complicated than simply cutting her money.

ThickSkinnedSoWhat · 14/07/2023 11:24

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 14/07/2023 09:32

You e not financially supported her year at Uni, you've financially supported her Drug Dealer. Time to reassess where your money is going.

This 100%. I wouldn't be giving her another fucking penny. Many other students don't even have the privilege of a parent who can financially support them at uni and need to get jobs etc. She has beyond taken advantage and is an absolute piss taker thanking you by snorting it away.

Treecreature · 14/07/2023 11:20

If she can afford sniff she can afford rent. Stick a picture of Daniella Westbrook on her bedroom door.

WeetabixTowels · 14/07/2023 11:19

I honestly worry for some of you and your relationship with adult children.

Do you think going all pious and shouting at a teenager (we were all stupid and selfish after all at 19, and I’m 100% certain many of you will have taken drugs yourself at some point) DO YOU LIKE DEAD CHILDREN DO YOU is even in the tiniest bit helpful. Going ballistic and OTT on a guilt trip may be your knee jerk reaction but quite honestly it will be a one way ticket to alienating your child. They are no longer 6, those tactics don’t work. Act a bit more level headed FGS

Ponoka7 · 14/07/2023 11:19

Act in your Dd's best interests. Her being kicked out, estranged isn't in her interests. Any drastic action will end her time at university. Drug use is common and doesn't damage the lives of a good portion of people who try them out. You need to address her ADHD meds and how much she is using. Cutting her income might not be the best thing. Let's face it, young women can easily get their drugs paid for. As for the 'older people ' comment, we were the rave generation, who do you think was buying the ecstasy? We all stopped our usage and carried on with our lives.

SiouxsieSiouxStiletto · 14/07/2023 11:15

keepmovingon · 14/07/2023 11:09

I worked with teenagers who took drugs. Don’t call the police. Give her information about the risk to health. Request that she does not bring any drugs into your house. Start charging her rent and make her pay for her own food and make her do her own laundry, cooking and stuff. If she has got enough money to buy drugs she can support herself financially. If she’s got her life so sorted she can take drugs she can look after herself. Make it clear even though she thinks it’s no big deal you do and even though you can’t stop her you can stop facilitating her drug habit by not giving her financial or time support. You don’t want your money and time enabling her to take drugs it’s up to her how she manages her own money and time. Most teenagers grow out of it. Cocaine is everywhere now. It’s hard to avoid.

I think a lot of the advice you give is sound but my two ND DC really struggle with laundry. Admittedly the older one isn't probably helped with the amount of hours he works.

LlynTegid · 14/07/2023 11:13

Presumably your DD would be OK with another young child such as Olivia Pratt-Korbel being killed? OK with young black men being stabbed?

Ask her.

DisquietintheRanks · 14/07/2023 11:10

I think if she's got enough money for recreational drugs she can probably afford to pay for her own car and give you some rent money.

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