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Would you find this offensive? *Trigger Warning*

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ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 09/07/2023 12:14

I’ll try to not be too outing but I’d like to hear other peoples opinion.

I was out for a meal with a group of people (we’ve all known each other for 10/15 years and some are closer than others in the group).

Someone that a few of the people in the group knew recently had a baby. My friend showed a picture of the baby around the table and one person on the table commented and said ‘the baby looks Down syndrome-ee.’

I wasn’t involved in the conversation as I was too busy sending a quick Whatsapp message to someone but I heard the comment being made in the background. As soon as I heard it I instantly got really heated and felt quite angry. I eventually went to the toilet and had a little cry (embarrassing I know).

For context, my 14 month has a rare genetic disorder and is missing the same chromosome that people with Down Syndrome have too much of. I’ve come across a lot of ableist comments since he’s been born but I was knocked backwards hearing that from someone within the group.

I’m also not particularly close to this person but I’m quite disappointed in myself for not saying at the time. I didn’t want to cause a scene but in hindsight, maybe that was a perfect reason to cause a scene.

I know I’m in the wrong for not challenging it but this isn’t okay is it? Peoples reactions were so normal it’s making me feel as if I’m in the wrong.

(please delete this post MN if it’s considered offensive)

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BandyLionAndDurdock · 09/07/2023 13:36

I think pointing out any visible difference is unnecessary and has the potential to offend. Our bodies are just the physical thing that carry ‘us’ around and don’t need judging As good or bad in anyway.

LorraineInSpain · 09/07/2023 13:34

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International Day of Persons with Disabilities is 3 December. My workplace acknowledges it, and we’ve had quite a bit of disability-related training this year. So hopefully the tide is turning on that.

I do think that the comment made by OP’s friend was offensive, though. I think it’s both the “ee” on the end, and seeming to “other” the baby. I would have a different view if the comment had been along the lines of asking if the child had Down Syndrome - after the obligatory and socially conventional comment about how cute the baby is, of course.

StaunchMomma · 09/07/2023 13:27

That's a an incredibly awful thing to say and yes, I would be angered by it and my view of that person would be changed.

What a prize twat!

MolkosTeenageAngst · 09/07/2023 13:25

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To be honest I would find someone saying in response to a picture of a newborn, ‘the baby looks black’ or ‘the baby looks gay’ offensive as well. Not because they are negative attributes or because it would be bad to look either but because someone bringing up specific attributes is almost certainly doing it to be rude, it’s not usually to comment on a baby’s skin colour or on whether or not they have a disability etc when being shown a photo so to do so suggests the person raising it is doing so to be rude. If someone comments on a baby being black it suggests they think white is the default and being black is noteworthy, otherwise why mention it at all? The same with the baby potentially having Down’s syndrome, so what if s/he does or doesn’t? Why bring it up at all within the context of looking at a photo unless you want to gossip about it or think it effects how cute the baby photo is?

Wodwo · 09/07/2023 13:24

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loislovesstewie · 09/07/2023 13:23

Yes, it's a horrid thing to say. I understand why you had a cry , and I would have nothing more to do with that person.

Wodwo · 09/07/2023 13:21

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Fiddlerdragon · 09/07/2023 13:17

That’s really not the same thing at all. Do you think being black or gay is the same as having a disability?

Also puzzled as to how saying “your baby looks gay” would be a neutral statement as if there’s a specific way to look gay

Gothambutnotahamster · 09/07/2023 13:18

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This is my thinking too - hence not understanding why it was an offensive thing to say (other than the 'ee' on the end, potentially?)

Fiddlerdragon · 09/07/2023 13:17

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That’s really not the same thing at all. Do you think being black or gay is the same as having a disability?

Wodwo · 09/07/2023 13:15

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Karmakamelion · 09/07/2023 13:12

@Wodwo no its because it was obviously said in a mean way. Read the op. You are just being inflammatory

Fiddlerdragon · 09/07/2023 13:10

willWillSmithsmith · 09/07/2023 13:08

Are people on here saying looking Down’s syndrome is offensive?

No, but telling people they look disabled whether they are or not is offensive

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Fiddlerdragon · 09/07/2023 13:09

Gothambutnotahamster · 09/07/2023 12:57

Trying to think why this would be offensive - was it because of the 'ee' at the end, as opposed to saying the child looks like they have Down syndrome?

Can you not at all think why people might find that comment rude? If you were shown a photo of a baby that clearly had Down’s syndrome would you say ‘oh you have a disabled baby’, or ‘ah isn’t he cute’ like a normal person would? If you were introduced to someone that you thought had some downs features would you say to them ‘you look a bit Down syndrome-ee’?

willWillSmithsmith · 09/07/2023 13:08

Are people on here saying looking Down’s syndrome is offensive?

Gothambutnotahamster · 09/07/2023 12:57

Trying to think why this would be offensive - was it because of the 'ee' at the end, as opposed to saying the child looks like they have Down syndrome?

ImGonnaHaveToTurnMyBackOnYou · 09/07/2023 12:56

Insensitive, rude, ableist, inappropriate, uncalled for.

That's not a nice thing for her to have said, and I'm so sorry you had to hear that. I bet your child is adorable and a delight, and this acquaintance/ friend is ignorant to the hurt and distress such comments actually make to people.

I hope the comment doesn't get back to the baby's parents either. Though if it did, it would serve the person right if they were ostracised for it.

Gothambutnotahamster · 09/07/2023 12:55

I wouldn't find it offensive either - what is offensive about the remark? It doesn't sound like they were derogatory about Down syndrome, unless they said other stuff that was negative?

Jongleterre · 09/07/2023 12:55

The way in which it was said denotes an ignorant and rude person.

If they genuinely thought the baby had Downs Syndrome there is no need to comment on the the baby having it unless it was to say something positive such as 'What a lovely smile' just as you would about a baby that doesn't have Downs Syndrome.

I don't think you should have said anything at the time as you were clearly upset and emotional.

Now you are composed you can address the comment and point out to the person that what they said was bang out of order.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 09/07/2023 12:52

I wouldn't find it offensive personally

Emmamoo89 · 09/07/2023 12:52

YADNBU X

RaidFlySpray · 09/07/2023 12:52

Horribly offensive. And don't beat yourself up about not speaking up OP- It sounds like you've been through a lot, you don't have to always be ready to pounce on these horrible ableist comments. TBH whoever she was talking to should have called her out on it.

Leverageup · 09/07/2023 12:50
  1. this is someone’s pride and joy
  2. what’s wrong with Down’s syndrome
  3. insulting people for thongs they did not have a say in is wrong

That’s an incredibly insensitive comment

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