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Holiday on my due date

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Hah20 · 03/07/2023 20:48

I am due baby number 2, which will be via c section. Unless baby comes early I will be given a c section date at somepoint in my 39th week.
My mother was aware of this week window in which baby will be born and has booked a holiday with her partner abroad for this exact week
I am upset but not exactly surprised that she would prioritise a holiday with her partner over being here for the birth of her grandchild.just hoping for some opinions?

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supersonicginandtonic · 03/07/2023 23:06

Isn't paternity leave so the dad can help? I'm sure you can manage for a maximum of a week. What difference does it make?
You chose to have the baby, not your mum.
Does your first child go to nursery? Keep him in that routine if so.

crew2022 · 03/07/2023 22:56

What about your DH parents helping?

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 22:49

Hah20 · 03/07/2023 21:55

You have absolutely hit the nail on the head.
I have had dozens of conversations with her about being worried about the care of DC1 while I am in hospital and post surgery and had hoped she would be around if we needed her. No formal arrangement had been made for care of DC1 as I don't yet know if my date will fall on one of her working days. I guess I am more worried about him rather than myself and new baby.
Like you say I don't want to demand her help, but had hoped it would be given freely.

Did you explicitly ask her to help with DC1? This reads like you were fishing for an offer by talking about being worried but never asked and are disappointed no offer was made?

Does she usually get your hints? I sense this is not the first time you’ve hinted or fished for offers and been let down, but could be mistaken. Perhaps the fishing and hinting isn’t working well as a way to communicate with her. Being blunt and honest might work better.

FloweryName · 03/07/2023 22:47

What’s your Mum and her partner’s circumstances? If your mum works maybe he does too and this worked out as the best week they could get off together.

NotAMug · 03/07/2023 22:46

Cottoncandysticks · 03/07/2023 21:53

I am. I’m also quite good at advocating for myself. It was a bloody heatwave and I wanted to lope about in a vest and a pair of baggy shorts and watch shit telly while my wound healed with DH waiting on me and making me cold drinks rather than run around cleaning before visitors came in for a photo opportunity and then sat there for an hour drinking coffee, eating all my food and slagging off my siblings to me. We had a marvellous couple of weeks, sheer lazy bliss. Nice bonding time and I was well restored and recovered by the time he went back to work. Visitors were very much secondary to comfort. Not sorry at all.

TBH it sounds like you have shit family and friends then, people who care about you would come round and help you out. Mine came and made food, drinks, helped clear up and were generally all amazing.

NotAMug · 03/07/2023 22:44

In RL I have never heard of people not wanting their family around after having babies, the 1st I heard of such a thing was on MN!

I would be really hurt if my mum did this knowing my due date, she was so upset when she had a holiday near to DS2s due date (she'd already booked it) luckily (kind of) I had an elective c-sec so she ended up being around. She was there at the hospital along with MIL and they both came round every day for the next couple of weeks. A friend of mine had her baby same day as mine and her mum and MIL were also in the waiting room with mine. The older siblings were there waiting also.

I can totally understand why you feel like you do OP.

HadalyEve · 03/07/2023 22:42

Ceramiccathy · 03/07/2023 21:42

What is there to discuss?

I mentioned my section date once it was agreed with the consultant, the next day I got a message from mum that she had booked the time off to help.

Why would it need a discussion to fulfill a parents job imo in helping their child

There is plenty to discuss! When would you like her to visit you and the new baby? What help might you want or need? And when?

You say “parents job in helping their child” like we are handed a big instruction manual that tells us do this and do that with set things like “meet new grandchild no later than 4hrs after birth” “visit home no later than the following day”. There isn’t as you know because we are all different.

And when your children are adults, it is even more important to communicate and discuss with them what they want instead of assuming you are wanted and imposing yourself. You really need to take responsibility for your own needs here.

Have you seen how many threads there are of women complaining about their mother coming to help before, during and after the birth of their DC?

The only commonality between you and these women is you all aren’t discussing what you want/need with your mothers (or other relatives). You’re expecting them to just “know” what you want and somehow knowing without being told is proof of love or interest. That’s an unfair expectation to have of anyone.

Mariposista · 03/07/2023 22:42

Makes a change to read a post where the GP is actually wanted post-birth rather than shoved away and told to wait for 2 weeks/months/whatever, as we usually end up reading on MN.

Trainsplanesandfeet · 03/07/2023 22:40

Cottoncandysticks · 03/07/2023 22:05

Miserable? No. Independent and with boundaries? yes. Lots of us prefer to keep them at arms length. It’s nice to have your home to yourself and feel at ease. Neither mine or DH parents are particularly fun to be around, we tolerate them as necessary for Xmas and stuff but they’ve never babysat or been on holidays together or anything and we definitely aren’t close enough to want them around if we are unwell or the house is a tip or we have just had a baby. We like our peace and we’re a fantastic team so we don’t need them either.

You sound a charmer

veryfluffyfluff · 03/07/2023 22:37

Hah20 · 03/07/2023 21:55

You have absolutely hit the nail on the head.
I have had dozens of conversations with her about being worried about the care of DC1 while I am in hospital and post surgery and had hoped she would be around if we needed her. No formal arrangement had been made for care of DC1 as I don't yet know if my date will fall on one of her working days. I guess I am more worried about him rather than myself and new baby.
Like you say I don't want to demand her help, but had hoped it would be given freely.

If you had those conversations you should have been clearer if you needed her help.

veryfluffyfluff · 03/07/2023 22:36

Hah20 · 03/07/2023 20:54

We hadn't discussed it, I wasnt expecting any formal help as she does still work, but I had hoped she would be interested enough to want to be in the country. She only lives down the road so knows she would be able to meet baby as soon as we are back from the hospital.

Yeah but you might be in for days

bobblyjob · 03/07/2023 22:35

Ceramiccathy · 03/07/2023 21:42

What is there to discuss?

I mentioned my section date once it was agreed with the consultant, the next day I got a message from mum that she had booked the time off to help.

Why would it need a discussion to fulfill a parents job imo in helping their child

FULFIL A PARENTS JOB?! Jesus. So entitled 😂

TheFairyCaravan · 03/07/2023 22:32

I think it’s a bit sad and isn’t something I would do.

We’re going to be grandparents for the first time just after Christmas. DDIL has said that we’re very welcome to come to see the baby as soon as it’s born. DH often goes away with work, but he’s keeping the two weeks either side of her due date free, so he can take annual leave at the drop of a hat and we can go to visit and offer any help and support they may need.

onlyoneoftheregimentinstep · 03/07/2023 22:20

YANBU! We kept the diary pretty clear for two weeks either side of due dates when each of our DGC were due, just in case any help was needed. I can't imagine why your DM would book a holiday.

Cottoncandysticks · 03/07/2023 22:19

Hollyppp · 03/07/2023 22:08

Yes you’ve repeated that absolutely correctly.

No she doesn’t work, retired

See there’s nothing wrong with this. Normal in many cultures and probably for British people a couple of generations ago. Personally, having my mother in and out my house for 3 weeks would absolutely end in me or DD killing her it would literally be my worst nightmare 😂( not that she’d bother anyway). But if you’re lucky enough to have a nice mum then enjoy the help. I think it’s unusual these days though for granny’s to be so hands on and not so common due to cultural shifts and the fact that most people are working until quite late in life and then understandably try to squeeze as much ‘me time’ out of their short retirements as possible. Same with childcare, most grandparents just don’t now. So I’d say your setup is less common.

Ceramiccathy · 03/07/2023 22:18

Cottoncandysticks · 03/07/2023 22:05

Miserable? No. Independent and with boundaries? yes. Lots of us prefer to keep them at arms length. It’s nice to have your home to yourself and feel at ease. Neither mine or DH parents are particularly fun to be around, we tolerate them as necessary for Xmas and stuff but they’ve never babysat or been on holidays together or anything and we definitely aren’t close enough to want them around if we are unwell or the house is a tip or we have just had a baby. We like our peace and we’re a fantastic team so we don’t need them either.

How sad

Hollyppp · 03/07/2023 22:08

GirlOfTudor · 03/07/2023 21:54

You asked your mum to do nothing for 3 weeks so she could help you out? That's wild. Does she not work? 3 weeks is 75% of some people's annual leave allowance!!

Yes you’ve repeated that absolutely correctly.

No she doesn’t work, retired

Cottoncandysticks · 03/07/2023 22:05

Ceramiccathy · 03/07/2023 21:55

Why do you think it’s an either or?

Gosh so many miserable Mary’s on here

Miserable? No. Independent and with boundaries? yes. Lots of us prefer to keep them at arms length. It’s nice to have your home to yourself and feel at ease. Neither mine or DH parents are particularly fun to be around, we tolerate them as necessary for Xmas and stuff but they’ve never babysat or been on holidays together or anything and we definitely aren’t close enough to want them around if we are unwell or the house is a tip or we have just had a baby. We like our peace and we’re a fantastic team so we don’t need them either.

Avondale89 · 03/07/2023 22:00

I would be hurt by this, but my mother would never do it and I couldn’t imagine doing it either. I assume you don’t have a close relationship?

Ponoka7 · 03/07/2023 21:59

cadink · 03/07/2023 21:56

I think you're being dramatic

Why? If one of my DD's was going in for surgery, then I'd want to be around, that's without throwing a new GC into the mix. I'd want to help the whole family moving from one child to two.

cadink · 03/07/2023 21:56

I think you're being dramatic

Sunnydaysaredefhere · 03/07/2023 21:55

Try and see the positives.. Now you know her priorities aren't you +dc she doesn't need to be in your top list either.. Not petty but she deserves the same consideration moving forward....
Nil..

Hah20 · 03/07/2023 21:55

You have absolutely hit the nail on the head.
I have had dozens of conversations with her about being worried about the care of DC1 while I am in hospital and post surgery and had hoped she would be around if we needed her. No formal arrangement had been made for care of DC1 as I don't yet know if my date will fall on one of her working days. I guess I am more worried about him rather than myself and new baby.
Like you say I don't want to demand her help, but had hoped it would be given freely.

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Ceramiccathy · 03/07/2023 21:55

Cottoncandysticks · 03/07/2023 21:53

I am. I’m also quite good at advocating for myself. It was a bloody heatwave and I wanted to lope about in a vest and a pair of baggy shorts and watch shit telly while my wound healed with DH waiting on me and making me cold drinks rather than run around cleaning before visitors came in for a photo opportunity and then sat there for an hour drinking coffee, eating all my food and slagging off my siblings to me. We had a marvellous couple of weeks, sheer lazy bliss. Nice bonding time and I was well restored and recovered by the time he went back to work. Visitors were very much secondary to comfort. Not sorry at all.

Why do you think it’s an either or?

Gosh so many miserable Mary’s on here

GirlOfTudor · 03/07/2023 21:54

Hollyppp · 03/07/2023 21:39

I’d be annoyed. I’ve asked my mum to basically block out a 3 week period (week 38-41) in case I give birth to DC2. She is looking after DC1 while I’m in labour. I gave birth at 38 weeks last time, hence the concern.

I would be angry and sad if she let me down on that front, so it’s slightly different but I can see why you’d want your mum around

You asked your mum to do nothing for 3 weeks so she could help you out? That's wild. Does she not work? 3 weeks is 75% of some people's annual leave allowance!!