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Won't get a job!

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mamalama86 · 28/06/2023 21:23

So my DH and I had our first child 6 months ago. Before I started maternity leave he had been out of work for months and living on savings.

I reassured him that with my maternity pay and savings I could see us through for a good few months and ideally he would aim to be working again by the time the baby is around 3-4 months old.

We're now 6 months in and he's only recently started looking for jobs and that's because I've pushed and we've had a few arguments about it. I have enough money saved to see us through until I go back to work in January but I think it's important he starts now so we can make our plan about childcare etc when I return to work.

I don't think he's all that serious about finding something. I got upset the other day because my boss will want to know soon whether I'm coming back full time/part time etc. I told him I really want to drop 1 day a week and hopefully if he finds something soon then he can do that too if he wants too and financially it makes sense. His response was 'well you'll just have to figure it out then'...basically implying that it's all on me to provide 100% for the family and I have to work full time while he 'looks for work'.(my salary will not support us comfortably).

We had another bust up today and he's saying he's looking for work, but I'm just not convinced he's bothered.

AIBU to push this hard? Should I be considering an ultimatum eventually?

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Lazzee · 29/06/2023 21:47

MavisMcMinty · 29/06/2023 19:59

Yes, but he doesn’t know she’s planning to split up if he doesn’t get a job. He’s coasting, it probably hasn’t entered his mind that a break-up is on the cards. It might focus the mind.

The point at which DH needs to have it clearly communicated to him that his partner is going to leave unless he gets his lazy arse a job is a major problem.

This is not an adult to adult relationship. You’re describing a scenario of someone parenting a lazy teen and outlining consequences. As an adult who is supposed to care for his partner and child, he should already know what partnership is and be proactive in sorting his shit out.

Lazzee · 29/06/2023 21:44

AlfietheSchnauzer · 28/06/2023 22:38

@ItsBarbieBitchhhh Sorry but I still think it's exactly the same in many (not all) cases. We all know someone who TOLD their DH they were not working and that's that!

I don’t know anyone who said that. All my friends are smart, hardworking women who either went back PT temporarily and then FT or FT straight after mat leave.

Riverlee · 29/06/2023 21:39

That’s true .

MavisMcMinty · 29/06/2023 19:59

Yes, but he doesn’t know she’s planning to split up if he doesn’t get a job. He’s coasting, it probably hasn’t entered his mind that a break-up is on the cards. It might focus the mind.

Riverlee · 29/06/2023 19:56

MavisMcMinty · 29/06/2023 19:50

Really? I think he deserves a chance to get a job and prove his commitment to his family.

If you read the op, the plan was for dp to get a job and be working by the time baby was 3-4 months. Baby is now six months old, and dp has only just started looking for a job, because op has pushed him (which has caused arguements).

MavisMcMinty · 29/06/2023 19:50

Wallywobbles · 29/06/2023 19:24

No ultimatum. Just it's done. Too little too late. Otherwise he will just take anything and leave a month later. And you'll be in the same position but he will have wised up.

Really? I think he deserves a chance to get a job and prove his commitment to his family.

Wallywobbles · 29/06/2023 19:24

No ultimatum. Just it's done. Too little too late. Otherwise he will just take anything and leave a month later. And you'll be in the same position but he will have wised up.

heartofglass23 · 29/06/2023 18:50

If he's a sahd and you split he would have a very good chance of becoming the resident parent if he takes you to court. Not only could you only see your baby EOW you would have to pay him maintenance!

Meeting · 29/06/2023 18:18

mamalama86 · 29/06/2023 17:54

I think I'm going to take this weekend to come up with a plan of how I'm going to support myself as a single parent. How I'm going to afford childcare etc and maybe talk to a mortgage advisor about what I can afford on my own. Pending the result of that then unless something miraculous has happened over eh next few days then it's ultimatum time. A job with the next month or he's out.

Very good idea.

Tell him he needs any job at all in order to provide for his child or he's out. Once employed he can continue to look for the job he wants.

mamalama86 · 29/06/2023 17:54

WitcheryDivine · 29/06/2023 17:46

What are you going to do @mamalama86

I think I'm going to take this weekend to come up with a plan of how I'm going to support myself as a single parent. How I'm going to afford childcare etc and maybe talk to a mortgage advisor about what I can afford on my own. Pending the result of that then unless something miraculous has happened over eh next few days then it's ultimatum time. A job with the next month or he's out.

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WitcheryDivine · 29/06/2023 17:46

What are you going to do @mamalama86

MavisMcMinty · 29/06/2023 16:36

Easy to get out of the habit of working. Think that’s what may have happened to your DH, particularly without any real financial incentive to find a job, any job. My OH just didn’t see himself, a master thatcher, working in any of the low-status low-paid jobs available round here. Then inherited a nice sum when his Mum died, so didn’t have to think about work until that money had all gone. (A year?) Then as I say, I just stopped buying food, as I can survive forever on Ryvita, it took me through my teens and twenties. I’d been saying for years that “I can’t afford to keep you”, I just had to demonstrate it and wish I’d done the demo long ago.

mamalama86 · 29/06/2023 16:10

Thanks everyone. I think I needed a kick to realise I'm being a mug.

I wish I'd never started this by letting him not contribute. At the time I genuinely thought it made sense as it would give him a few more than with the baby before starting a job. It would mean more help for me (c-section) and time for us as a family. Also I have no support around me to help with the baby at all (literally not a soul) so I thought it made sense for a short while just so we could get into the swing of things.

Turns out he's taken it too far and is now just taking the Pisssss

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piedbeauty · 29/06/2023 15:29

What a workshy loser! A good dad would be planning how to afford everything their dc needs, not running through their savings.

Peony654 · 29/06/2023 15:29

Why are you tolerating this, and why on earth are you spending your savings for you both to live on. There's so many jobs at the moment, he can't say he can't find something. The longer he's not working, the harder it'll be. Of course very different if you agree he will be a SAHP but it doesn't sound like that is the case

WitcheryDivine · 29/06/2023 15:22

Hate to say it but I'd be having daily catchups about the job hunt, proofreading his applications, sending him ideas of places to apply etc.

I know that shouldn't be your job, but also every day he's at home he's eroding YOUR savings, yes yours. That's money you might need to fall back on one day if one of you gets ill or there's other unexpected expense.

If he won't engage with that then sadly I'd indicate that I am not willing to live a life where I pay for not only our mutual child but also him, a grown man.

And eventually I would give him the ultimatum below about finding a job or splitting.

Meeting · 29/06/2023 15:08

I make him sound awful but he is a great dad

No he's not. He's refusing to contribute to the upbringing of his child.

Coyoacan · 29/06/2023 15:01

@peachicecream

I fortunately have no personal experience of a cocklodger getting to keep the kids, but I have frequently read of similar situations on mumsnet, and to add insult to injury they neither looked after the children nor did housework or cooking to any great extent. The working mother still lost residency and had to pay the prat into the bargain.

I have every respect for real SAHPs, it is a job in itself and the family court should protect their rights.

TheCatterall · 29/06/2023 13:27

Come on @mamalama86 theres loads of temp and agency work out there it’s just not what he wants to do and he’s putting bare minimum effort in. When I’m out of work or don’t have enough client work (now self employed) I do anything and everything to make that income up. I do cleaning work, delivery work, putting banners and signs up at supermarkets, doing admin, call centre and warehouse work through agencies. Is it my dream work no. Is the pay shit compared to my potential from clients etc - also yes. But I do it as not working isnt an option.

what would he have done if you didn’t have the savings?

What were you hoping to do with the savings?

I’d also be asking him what his plan is to replenish the savings to the previous amount within 12 months of his own back.

what would he do if you decided you’d had enough of his lacklustre approach to supporting his family and were leaving him? He’d no doubt manage to find a job or some work within a week.

good luck.

getafringenotbotox · 29/06/2023 12:43

I think you need to set a timeline in your head and if nothing has improved then make your plans to leave/tell him to leave.

I wouldn't put up with this.

Why are you using your savings to support you all. He needs to get back to work now or your setting yourself up to be responsible for everything.

Poppyblush · 29/06/2023 12:00

He’s not building up any pension either. He’s not a good dad or husband.

Nordicrain · 29/06/2023 11:59

I mean you have put up with this for ages, and comforted him that you'll take care of it all, so we are obviously very different people with different values, but ther eis just no way I would put up with this. I would kick him out and have one less person to have to pay for.

AllyCart · 29/06/2023 11:58

peachicecream · 29/06/2023 08:57

In a situation like OP's, the court would be highly likely to find in her favour, even if her partner had been the SAHP for a time, because they would consider all circumstances including his outright refusal to get a job.

It's highly unlikely that OP would lose her child/ren to this lout - those saying she might are just being sensationalist and scaring her.

This is nonsense!

If it were true, SAHMs who refuse to get a job would be losing their DC left, right and centre to fathers who were working full time.

AdoraBell · 29/06/2023 11:57

How is he a great dad? Good parents want to support their children and spouse.

Nevermind31 · 29/06/2023 11:53

Is he using his savings to pay his share of the bills? I would ask him… why do I have to figure it out? You need to pay your share, you need to figure out how you are paying for your share.

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