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StarDolphins · 19/06/2023 21:15

My 7 year old is alway messing in her money box, taking notes out & leaving them in various places for me to put back.

I’ve just gone in her bedroom, the lid is off & she can’t remember where the money is, she thinks she put it in the drawer but it’s not there. I can’t find it. I’ve told her I’m disappointed & cross & she knows I’m not happy at all & shes devastated at me being upset & cross. She doesn’t care about the money one bit, more that I forgive her.

Aibu to say she has to save her spends to put the money back now instead of spending it like she usually does?

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StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 12:02

SleepingStandingUp · 20/06/2023 11:43

I was critical of your drawn out punishment last night but I do think it's reasonable given how much money she has a week to do something like this.
Sunglasses don't need replacing, she told you she'd wear her old ones. So do that where stuff has to be replaced but don't insist she has to have new stuff of she's happy with the old. If she needs a new sun hat, she puts a £1 towards it etc.

However he prepared for it not working. I lost everything as a kid, PE kits, house keys, umbrellas etc. No punishment worked because I couldn't help it. My brain was too full of STUFF to remember everything. I'm marginally better as an adult. But bank cards, God I can't keep track of them. Phones get lost occasionally and it costs ME money and time and anguish and self loathing but I still can't not lose stuff.

Yes, I do lose things too so I get you.

Yes, good idea thank you. I won’t be replacing stuff where she has an older alternative and where there’s no alternative, I will pay most & get her to contribute £1. The sun hat was lost on day 1!
I know it’s completely normal for any age to lose things, especially children. She has other, more important things to think about & I get it. She just seems not in the slightest bit bothered & quite excessive with losing things!

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StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 11:51

SkyandSurf · 20/06/2023 11:29

Don't be this kind of parent OP.

Your 7 year old has done the kind of thing 7 year olds do.

Don't keep punishing her and making it a massive deal.

Parents like this raise anxious, people pleasing adults who are terrified of making any mistake.

Give her a break.

Well yes, I have addressed this point 26 times on this post. I think page 2 or 3 I said I won’t be getting her to pay it back & the only punishment has been my initial cross reaction.

Not sure where I’ve given the impression to warrant ‘don’t keep punishing her and making it a massive deal’.

I also stated many times & will again confirm, she rarely gets told off so she certainly won’t be ‘terrified’ of making a mistake.

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SleepingStandingUp · 20/06/2023 11:43

StarDolphins · 19/06/2023 23:53

Thank you, that’s why I knee jerk thought she can’t have £5 handed to her in a few days to spemd as she’ll just give even less of a rats ass about losing things.

The more I think of it, it could be anything (yes not good me leaving money in her room even though she should be able to follow instructions not to open it) but the fact is, I am constantly replacing lost things.

i won’t make her replace the lost money but I will start either not replacing lost things or I will say she has to use her savings (which will comprise of £1/2 out of her £5.

I was critical of your drawn out punishment last night but I do think it's reasonable given how much money she has a week to do something like this.
Sunglasses don't need replacing, she told you she'd wear her old ones. So do that where stuff has to be replaced but don't insist she has to have new stuff of she's happy with the old. If she needs a new sun hat, she puts a £1 towards it etc.

However he prepared for it not working. I lost everything as a kid, PE kits, house keys, umbrellas etc. No punishment worked because I couldn't help it. My brain was too full of STUFF to remember everything. I'm marginally better as an adult. But bank cards, God I can't keep track of them. Phones get lost occasionally and it costs ME money and time and anguish and self loathing but I still can't not lose stuff.

SkyandSurf · 20/06/2023 11:29

Don't be this kind of parent OP.

Your 7 year old has done the kind of thing 7 year olds do.

Don't keep punishing her and making it a massive deal.

Parents like this raise anxious, people pleasing adults who are terrified of making any mistake.

Give her a break.

Dinoswearunderpants · 20/06/2023 11:28

I'm sorry but this is on you as much as it's on her. £60 it a lot of money to leave in a money box.

She's 7 of course she doesn't understand the value of money.

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 11:25

Clementineorsatsuma · 20/06/2023 11:16

I'd be concerned that she had taken the money to school and given it out. She wouldn't be the first.
Check on that, then open her a bank acc and let her out her savings in there.

She’d definitely not give her money away! She will only give plushies/trinkets if its a swap for something she sees as an acceptable exchange!

More likely is that she’s pulled it out to count, left it hanging round or it’s blown/dropped somewhere & it’s got chucked by me somehow when her room is upside down while I was decorating.

Or it might turn up I guess. Either way, I will learn from it & a bank acc will be opened.

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Clementineorsatsuma · 20/06/2023 11:16

I'd be concerned that she had taken the money to school and given it out. She wouldn't be the first.
Check on that, then open her a bank acc and let her out her savings in there.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 20/06/2023 10:48

baffledcoconut · 20/06/2023 05:34

The naming of pocket money ’spends’ doesn’t really encourage saving either. Might be worth changing it to start fresh with a different plan.

Good point.

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 10:41

AllBlackEverything · 20/06/2023 10:26

It's not punishment though. It simply means that she won't be able to spend her money until she replaces her savings. It isn't taking money from her to keep for OP, it is just replacing the savings. Which are more important than plushies.

I know that you don't plan to make her replace the money any more OP, but I honestly think that you should consider it. It's no great hardship to have 12 less plushies, but the lesson that she would learn could be very beneficial.

My child is 5 and currently has about £150 in notes in their bedroom, as we haven't been to the bank yet to deposit it. People act like you are so irresponsible for letting your DD keep money in her room, but it's not unusual at all. Grandparents give £10 here or there, they do a few chores, it quickly adds up.

It really does mount up doesn’t it.

Initially, I wanted to not give her the £5 this weekend so she learns that when you
lose something/don’t take care of it, there are consequences but on reflection, I have already ‘punished’ her (albeit not on purpose as I genuinely felt cross with her), she hardly gets told off by me & this in itself really upset her (and me because I do t like being cross either!)

I won’t be replacing lost things as standard now if she has an older alternative to use. She loses things daily!

I will be insisting now that out of her weekly money, she gets to spend some but must also save some.

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AllBlackEverything · 20/06/2023 10:26

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 09:28

indeed. As I’ve said many times, this is my plan.

It's not punishment though. It simply means that she won't be able to spend her money until she replaces her savings. It isn't taking money from her to keep for OP, it is just replacing the savings. Which are more important than plushies.

I know that you don't plan to make her replace the money any more OP, but I honestly think that you should consider it. It's no great hardship to have 12 less plushies, but the lesson that she would learn could be very beneficial.

My child is 5 and currently has about £150 in notes in their bedroom, as we haven't been to the bank yet to deposit it. People act like you are so irresponsible for letting your DD keep money in her room, but it's not unusual at all. Grandparents give £10 here or there, they do a few chores, it quickly adds up.

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 09:28

YeahIsaidit · 20/06/2023 09:24

She's lost her own money, why should she have more taken away from her as punishment? I'd understand if she'd taken money out of your purse and lost that, but wanting to punish her for losing her own stuff is mean... Also as pp have said, if you know she likes to take money out and play with it, it's your responsibility to make sure that's not possible with a more secure box or by putting it into a bank account

indeed. As I’ve said many times, this is my plan.

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Playawayway · 20/06/2023 09:26

She is 7 not 17. Give her a break.

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 09:24

lightlypoached · 20/06/2023 07:59

She doesn't understand the value. To her it's bits of paper.

"That money you lost means no pocket money for 12 weeks. So from now, all over the long summer holidays and until the second week you go back to school in the autumn" Or "mummy has to work and be away from the house for x hours to earn that ".

That should do the trick and might focus her mind on where she put it.

Thank you, I don’t think I can do this. I take responsibility for the fact I left it there. I did reiterate this morning that I really would like her to start keeping a bit more track of her belongings though. Especially money as once it’s gone, it’s gone.

I wanted her to pay half of it back with me initially.

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YeahIsaidit · 20/06/2023 09:24

She's lost her own money, why should she have more taken away from her as punishment? I'd understand if she'd taken money out of your purse and lost that, but wanting to punish her for losing her own stuff is mean... Also as pp have said, if you know she likes to take money out and play with it, it's your responsibility to make sure that's not possible with a more secure box or by putting it into a bank account

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 09:20

Jifmicroliquid · 20/06/2023 07:57

She’s not bothered because she doesn’t yet understand the value of money. Unless she’s spending it and getting something in return, it means nothing to her.

Explain to her why you are upset and that money is very important and she will come to understand that when she’s older. Tell her that from now on you will be keeping her savings safe so this can’t happen again.

As for the money that’s gone missing, surely it will turn up somewhere?

I’ve looked everywhere for it. We had a chat this morning & I explained I shouldn’t have left the money there as it’s too tempting at her age to keep getting it out etc and that we’ll open a bank account.

I always share my savings goals and explain how many hours I have to work for things so hopefully as she grows, she will learn the value. Saving some of her £5 will help I think.

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StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 09:14

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 20/06/2023 08:39

Oh OP children and money can be so frustrating..my DS lost £15 out of his pocket at a car boot cos the silly bugger kept taking it out to check it. We replaced it for him and told him to give us notes in future so they can be kept safe.

If it makes your dd feel any better tell her a grown ass adult (me) left £150 on a windowsill with the window open yesterday and forgot about it. The lot nearly blew away 😑. We all make mistakes.

Oh no! I will tell her about this after school!

I told her this morning that I left £200 in a perfume box then chucked the box!

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diddl · 20/06/2023 08:59

If it hasn't turned up by the next shopping trip I think that you should replace it.

You know that she plays with it & did nothing.

Perhaps in future half on a shopping trip & half saved if she gets a fiver a week to waste anyway!

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 20/06/2023 08:39

Oh OP children and money can be so frustrating..my DS lost £15 out of his pocket at a car boot cos the silly bugger kept taking it out to check it. We replaced it for him and told him to give us notes in future so they can be kept safe.

If it makes your dd feel any better tell her a grown ass adult (me) left £150 on a windowsill with the window open yesterday and forgot about it. The lot nearly blew away 😑. We all make mistakes.

JonahAndTheSnail · 20/06/2023 08:36

I would use toy money in her money box until she understands the value of money a bit better. So if she gets gifted £10 for her birthday, you put the toy £10 in her money box and you keep the real money safe until your next shopping trip. That way she can still see how much she has and you can help teach her to save up for something she wants. I'm not sure I would replace the £60 if she's getting £5 a week pocket money anyway.

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 08:03

wildfirewonder · 20/06/2023 07:53

I don't think I'm in a better mood, my thoughts haven't changed but as my comment was deleted I shan't repeat the sentiment as MNHQ are in charge ultimately!

Your plan to open an account seems sensible. If you can find a bank that gives a bank book that can be exciting for young children as they can see the numbers go up.

Yes I agree, I think seeing the figure go up will help her.

There is only 1 bank near me that I don’t think will close & it’s Nationwide. I have a savings acc with them with a book so hopefully she can have a book too.

I’m saver, she’s seen me save for things. She’s heard me talking about saving for things so I’m sure I can pull this back.

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lightlypoached · 20/06/2023 07:59

She doesn't understand the value. To her it's bits of paper.

"That money you lost means no pocket money for 12 weeks. So from now, all over the long summer holidays and until the second week you go back to school in the autumn" Or "mummy has to work and be away from the house for x hours to earn that ".

That should do the trick and might focus her mind on where she put it.

Jifmicroliquid · 20/06/2023 07:57

She’s not bothered because she doesn’t yet understand the value of money. Unless she’s spending it and getting something in return, it means nothing to her.

Explain to her why you are upset and that money is very important and she will come to understand that when she’s older. Tell her that from now on you will be keeping her savings safe so this can’t happen again.

As for the money that’s gone missing, surely it will turn up somewhere?

wildfirewonder · 20/06/2023 07:53

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 07:36

You’re in a more pleasant mood this morning!

of course, I want to learn from errors. We’ve had a chat this morning, I told her I made a mistake by leaving the money box in her room & I know it must’ve been tempting. I then said we’ll go together to open an account & explained the reasons & she’s very excited.

I don't think I'm in a better mood, my thoughts haven't changed but as my comment was deleted I shan't repeat the sentiment as MNHQ are in charge ultimately!

Your plan to open an account seems sensible. If you can find a bank that gives a bank book that can be exciting for young children as they can see the numbers go up.

StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 07:51

toomanyclothes262 · 20/06/2023 01:48

I would personally reduce her physical pocket money (or spends if you prefer) to something where she'd need to save to buy a plushie. It's not a natural consequence of her losing the money, but a re-evaluation of what you currently do. If she's getting instant gratification every week then why would she really understand the value of money (and taking care of possessions since that seems to possibly be more of the issue?)

Sit her down and explain that you're not doing it to punish but you were in the wrong too. Adults make mistakes too etc. She may be upset, but so is a child when you won't let them get an ice cream from a van!! Maybe do £2 a week in cash, and pop £3 in a saver with an app if you still want to give her £5 (I wouldn't personally as it's a lot but each to their own!) She can see the balance on your phone but also keep a paper tracker - like oh the toy I want from Argos costs £12... mark off the money until she's got £12 and then she can spend it. That little bit of saving time also teaches a lot about the value of things and reduces impulse spending! It's still her money that she can spend more than once a year, but there's less mental pressure to spend immediately.

And stop replacing things she loses!! She'll never learn to value stuff if it keeps getting replaced. If it's something that really needs replaced, then the money will need to come out of her savings/pocket money.

7 years old is completely old enough to understand that things cost and need to be looked after. You just need to work on how you teach that.

Thank you & all you’ve said makes sense. I didn’t replace the nice sunglasses, I said she has to wear the old ones but other stuff I’ve had to like sun hat, watch etc & she only had 1 of them.

I’ve spoken to her this morning & explained about the bank account & that when we open it, she will need to save &2 out of her money but then she can save for bigger & better things & she’s excited to get the bank account. She then said could she earn more for her bank acc by cleaning the car with me like she did before. I gave her a £1 one day for helping (hindering really, it was like a foam party)!

I also told her of a time I lost some money & the reasons I was upset with myself & that we can’t change what’s happened so we had a cuddle & it’s sorted.

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StarDolphins · 20/06/2023 07:41

TheShellBeach · 20/06/2023 01:01

Why aren't you going to mention it this week?
Cause and effect works best when it's current.

Just because it’s partly my fault for leaving the temptation there and I don’t want her to see the change as punishment.

I have said this morning as part. Of the opening a bank acc that she’ll need to save some & have some to spend then she can save up.

I also asked her if she could try & look after her things.

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