Growth spurt???? Help!

Doesnt sound like growth dd has grown loads this year from 50th centile to 90th.
Maybe little more sleep but none of other issues you are saying.
Has he actually grown a lot. I think over 10cm here this year. When usually 6cm.
Plus for her hormones kicking in and spots etc

This is just a small picture but there are a few red flags in your post. I'm a physio and if he came into clinic I would be referring him to GP for further test.

Night pain is usually inflammatory response - can indicate something underlying - if it is unremitting at night it wakes him up then he needs an urgent referral.

Again - fatigue (yes, it's normal for teens to be tired but this sounds like it isn't his normal)

Stomach pain etc - all these things add up.

Hope you get some answers. May well be something simple like an iron deficiency but I wouldn't ignore.

I definitely think you’re right to get it checked out with doctor. It could just be heat, growth spurt, lots of exercise etc clashing together but it sounds a notable change and worth checking out and being sure.

@QueenMabby yes, that’s it, it was Osgood-Slatter

i was clumbsily remembering 😄

if the leg pain is one sided and/or without obvious cause then go see a dr.

have a look at osgood-schlatter, crmo and see if that could fit the symptoms.

Osgood-Shlatter disease is common at this age. Osgood-Schlatter disease is a condition that causes pain and swelling below the knee joint, where the patellar tendon attaches to the top of the shinbone (tibia), a spot called the tibial tuberosity. There may also be inflammation of the patellar tendon, which stretches over the kneecap.

It settled over time when everything catches up.

I suspect he is growing. He'll probably be an early shooter. One of my sons shot up around 12

When you go to the doctor make sure you right down all the symptoms as it is easy to forget details in the appointment

If he’s doing a lot of exercise in hot weather dehydration is the first thing to rule out as it can be the cause of most of those, along with not sleeping properly (could be the heat and hay fever) so I would rule these out before thinking about growth spurts or anything more serious.

Similar but I was just coming in here to suggest the knee issue might be Osgood Schlafters. It's quite common in children who do a lot of sport and are having a growth spurt. My DS had it in both knees at various points during the ages of 12 and 14.

Have a look at this:

www.esht.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/0907.pdf

I can't help with the rest but hope your gp has some answers.

The pain in leg thing is normal, my son had it around that age

Took him to the GP, who asked if he is very sporty. I say:no, normal. GP asked what our normal was, so I said he did cricket, karate and tennis, in total doing sport 5x a week. GP said that is a lot, and not a bad thing, but in boys that age it can cause more pressure/stress on tendons and bones, and that the bones and muscles don't grow exactly at the same rate, so sporty boys that age are very prone to knee pain, and a weirdly "loose" knee. And they grow out of it

My boys also always got tired towards the end of the school year and were tired from school work/sports and in need of a break

Grumpiness also normal at that age

If he has ongoing stomach issues you may want to get that checked though!

I have 2 teenage boys, I would say that falling asleep during the day is highly unusual for an 11 year old. This is something associated with much younger children or old people. It is definitely harder to wake kids up the older they get and they take any opportunity to have a lie in but they don’t tend to have daytime naps.

Sounds like my son before he was diagnosed with diabetes. He was sleeping loads. Does he have a weird taste in his mouth and is he extra thirsty?

This ^

Also , just a thought. Is he taking a different antihistamine than last hay fever season? Was thinking of possible causes of day time sleepiness .

Sounds to me like there are so many things it could be, it would be wise to take a robust list of symptoms with him to the GP as soon as you can get an appointment.

I have a sporty 14 yr old boy and everything you say chimes with him, getting slower, knees (sometimes ankles) hurting, grumpy, eating.
BUT not the sleeping in the day part, and that does sound more unusual. Unless it's just because he's not sleeping so well at night due to the heat?
Sounds like you are going to GP anyway, you know him best and clearly he's not his usual self.

I would second getting his blood sugars checked.

Honestly it sounds like dehydration to me.

Might be worth getting a diabetes test, any weight loss or excessive thirst?

How are his bowel habits? I ask because he sounds exactly like my daughter (swimmer, trained 16 hours a week, couldn’t do it any more, got slower & slower, fell asleep constantly in the day time, ached all the time, very lethargic) and she after many months of blaming growth spurts etc turned out to have coeliac disease. Probably isn’t but have a look at the symptoms - it may be worth testing for.
She was 13 when it started and had grown a lot so it was hard to spot but much better now we know what it is. Good luck!

What is the knee issue?