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Why do doctors run in families?

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Beafortea · 16/06/2023 20:56

Why do doctors' kids often all end up being doctors? You seem to find that doctors are usually from families of multiple generations of doctors. Why is that?

Curious because you'd think with the state of things for junior doctors, parents would be encouraging their kids to pick another career?

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louladybug · 22/06/2023 15:19

Its the same in lots of professions most of the academics I know have at least one parent who was also an academic. It's just how it goes, expectations, belief that you can do it as opposed to someone who has no family background in that area.

AgeingDoc · 22/06/2023 15:15

Lots of Trusts no longer provide work experience anyway. Ours hasn't for years. It runs weekend "insight" courses for aspiring medical students which are open to everyone and widely advertised to local 6th forms. It certainly was common to shadow a patent or one of their friends in the past, but even the CEO's kid wouldn't get anywhere near a patient in our local hospitals these days.

KingfisherSandpiper · 22/06/2023 15:06

@TooOldForThisNonsense I think the hurdles are very similar for DC of medics and non-medics. The UCAT clinical entrance exam is probably one of the biggest hurdles in the whole process and that is a beast of an exam that you can practice but tutoring would be a waste of time and money for this one. Personal statements are largely ignored by medical schools for precisely the reason you say ie unfair advantage for DC of insiders. Medical work experience is not valued any more (possibly less) than a paid job in a customer facing environment. You can get plenty of examples for interview answers from that type of experience and silver spoon work experience could even act against you relative to grittier volunteering. A lot has been done to level things out for DC with non-medical backgrounds.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 22/06/2023 15:00

I would anticipate the hurdles for getting into med school are not as great, academic prowess aside, and even that can be tutored. Parents to help with the personal statement, work experience etc must be a big boon.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 22/06/2023 14:56

I'm seeing the opposite - I'm the child of a doctor married to another doctor's kid. We both come from large families - and not a single one of us has gone anywhere near medicine.

That said, if doctor's kids want to be doctors then medical schools should grab them quick - they're up for it despite knowing all the downsides.

Improbablecat · 22/06/2023 14:52

I'm the first doctor in my family. My school encouraged it as I was bright and having a guaranteed career at the end was attractive to me coming from a background where I saw my parents struggle at times. There were plenty of fellow students from medic families, some had been really pushed. My best friend dropped out and her dad (4th generation doctor) still struggles. Even though she has an amazing career with 4x the earnings I make!

I love my own job and in principle it's a great profession- getting to meaningfully help people while having opportunities to do scientific research, stretch your knowledge etc. But quality of life has really diminished and I won't be encouraging my kids (young primary age) into it. Most Millenial doctors I know say similar. It feels like the current crop of students/FYs whose parents are maybe in their 50s and had a different junior doc experience are possibly the last ones of the dynasty families.

KingfisherSandpiper · 22/06/2023 14:49

I have two medic DC. No other medics in our family. In their peer groups many are like them although there are a few who have one or both parents who are doctors. You certainly don't need to have a medic parent to get into med school. Mine got lots of offers. You just need to be bright, good at sciences, hardworking, proactive, personable and know the drill with the process. It certainly helps to have parents who can help with funding though and I'm sure many very suitable DC are put off by that aspect.

FixTheBone · 22/06/2023 14:41

Summed it up perfectly.

I'm the first doctor in our family.

It's paid well, it seems like a noble calling, and despite reading 'house of god' seemed like a good idea.

I'm currently telling my kids that if its money they want, there are far easier ways to make it, and that nothing really prepared me for the reality of 14 year of training, moving house, exams and hoop jumping.

Despite that, one is still determined to pursue medicine as a career.

AgeingDoc · 22/06/2023 14:41

This certainly used to be the case but I don't think it is anywhere near as common now.
I went to medical school in the 80s and amongst my peer group I was fairly unusual in being from a completely non medical family - no doctors, nurses, allied medical professionals of any kind in my family ever. I would say at least 70% of my friends had one or more parents or a grandparent who was a doctor and quite a few others had other medically connected relatives.
Now most of us have children in late teens/early 20s and I only have one close friend and two colleagues that I know of whose children have followed in their footsteps. Obviously I don't know every doctor in the country or even the county, but between friends and colleagues I do know quite a lot and I would imagine we have proprtionately less of our offspring going into medicine than other similarly able children. None of mine have shown any real interest in medicine fortunately but I would have discouraged them if they had.

Msmumm · 22/06/2023 14:31

Daughter is a vet. Many of her vet friends have doctors/consultants for parents. It seems they wanted to go down the medicine route but have chosen one that has a better work/life balance.

Hillarious · 22/06/2023 14:28

My work is linked to a Medical School. Where it is sometimes hard is when you see a student being pushed into this career by their doctor parents, but their heart really isn't in it. It can be difficult for them to find parental support to pursue another career path.

Lilybetsey · 22/06/2023 14:14

I'm A doctor . No one else in my family had been , and my kids are not. I think in some medical families it get pushed as the greatest career ever. It's not. I love it, but I chose it for myself and my children have different passions

Whataretheodds · 22/06/2023 10:34

mondaytosunday · 16/06/2023 21:16

Well I'm not surprised. Often actors have actor children, lawyers have lawyer children, teachers have teacher children etc.
if you show a particular aptitude for sciences (drama, law) then hardly surprising that your children might too.
And by the time doctors have kids, they are generally over the 36 hour shifts for less than minimum wage stage, so kids might not see the work put in to qualify and get ahead.

This.

If you wanted a more cynical view, possibly children of doctors are chasing approval and attention of the parents they didn't see because they were working 12+ hour shift? Or emulating them chasing after the buzz/fulfillment

maybemedmum · 22/06/2023 10:29

@explainthistomeplease Thank you. That's a very kind thing to say.

I think the whole subject of how you level playing fields and how much you can level them is really interesting. We will be throwing the resources we have behind our DD, and we're lucky that those resources are relatively considerable. It would be unimaginable not to do so. Yet I believe in equality of opportunity and would like to see fields like medicine, and others, open to the best candidates, regardless of their advantages and background.

I think a lot of it, as others have commented, is what you grow up with and are exposed to. DH's family has a strong public service ethos - they are all doctors, teachers, civil servants etc.

Incidentally, while medicine is eventually a high earning profession, it's perhaps less so among the peer group with the academic ability to become doctors. Of the people I went to Oxford with, DH and the two doctors are among the less well paid (I'm on a whole different level with my part time arts sector job😂). We couldn't have put our (three) kids through private school on a consultant-equivalent salary, for example.

Codlingmoths · 22/06/2023 08:49

Income is not irrelevant, and pretty bloody good for many, surgeons especially but also gps. I will reasonably often hear conversations like 4/ 6/8 kids and all private school?? How do they do it?! Or, a recent one- that renovation is costing more than the actual house value. Are they medical?
answers are very often Ah, orthopaedic surgeon. Dermatologist. Urologist. Etc.

FusRoDah · 22/06/2023 08:44

Both my parents are teachers. Not once have I ever been tempted to go into teaching!

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 22/06/2023 08:44

My elder son is a doctor, there are no doctors in our family in fact he was the first in our family to go to university. Among his friends from medical school I can’t think of one whose parent/s are or were doctors. My son married a lovely girl whose father was a GP, none of his three children went into medicine. I’m not sure you are correct.

borntobequiet · 22/06/2023 08:43

Both my generation and my parents’ have a preponderance of medics. My children and their cousins are well qualified in other professions - architecture, engineering, science, IT. None have considered medicine - parents advised against it.

(I was the only one out of four siblings who didn’t become a doctor, but that was because I wasn’t particularly caring and didn’t want to be around people who were unwell. However my childhood was spent in and around hospitals - we lived on site until I was eight, and my father used to take me to clinics in the holidays - I chatted to staff and patients and played outside. I grew up reading the BMJ. It’s this sort of immersive experience that would have made me go into medicine had I been so inclined.)

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2023 08:42

I think this is true of a lot of professions. Children grow up exposed to the job and with the contacts and insider knowledge to pursue it if they want to. Plus there might be a hefty dose of parental pressure.

Mind you, virtually no one I know with parents for doctors went into the job. They generally got top class educations which gave them a lot of choices though.

Reallybadidea · 22/06/2023 08:40

I think it's partly just knowing people who are doctors and feeling that it's something that someone 'like you' can do.

DH was the first in his family to go to university. He says he had no idea what career to aim for because he knew literally nobody who wasn't a labourer/shop worker etc. The idea of becoming a doctor, dentist, lawyer was just not something that people from his background did, although he had the grades for any of them.

Ngmi · 22/06/2023 08:40

My husband breaking the four generations of first sons being doctors line. ‘I never want to put my finger up someone’s arse’.
Bil is a doctor

explainthistomeplease · 22/06/2023 08:39

@maybemedmum what a refreshingly honest post! So often obvious advantages are watered down. I want to thank you for not doing so.

I wish your DD luck in her ambitions

Kazzyhoward · 22/06/2023 08:38

I think the trend is there with any trade/profession really.

Nearly all of my son's friends whose parents are teachers are going into teaching themselves. The one of his friends whose father is a surgeon is at medical school himself!

I'm an accountant and my son is training as an actuary (different but still financial), because he has been brought up in a financial background, did work experience in accountancy, but didn't want to be an accountant himself (no doubt because like lots of others, it's not the profession it used to be!), so he looked for financial careers that needed a high level of maths ability (accountancy doesn't, but actuaries do!).

Another friend is an apprentice builder working with his uncle's building business.

It just comes from familiarity - it's a lot easier to find out what a job entails if it's in the family, and there's also "inside knowledge" about the path from GCSEs to A levels/college to degree/apprenticeship etc. Far harder to become, say, a lawyer, if you don't know any and have to work out entry pathways etc yourself, and of course, you don't know what the job entails if you've no one to talk to about it.

Thepeopleversuswork · 22/06/2023 08:37

Many professions run in families. In mine it was journalism.

It’s easy to see why: you get the benefit of learning what the job is like from birth, you have a network given to you and free mentorship from your parents. It’s not rocket science.

Being a doctor is a well paid, well respected and rewarding profession so if your parents did it it’s easy to see why you might follow in their footsteps.

CapEBarra · 22/06/2023 08:36

Social capital. Kids understand the demands of the job from and early age and it’s ‘normal’ to them. They’ll have the helpful genetics, but they’ll also have grown up surrounded by medical books, discussions, and parent’s friends - most of whole will also likely be medically qualified. Support with work experience, writing statements for uni. Old boys network, and they will likely also be looked upon favourably by uni admissions because they have a good knowledge of when the career entails before starting so they understand better the expectations and roles so they can hit the ground running, and so are less likely to drop out. Add to that, if they do have any problems they can phone a relative to ask a question - so they effectively have a coach/mentor on tap.

My DP is a software engineer and a bit of a computer genius. His son has followed in his footsteps and while he doesn’t quite have his father’s natural ability he is good and gets straight A grades at uni. He works hard, but a large part of the reason for his success is because he’s on the phone to his dad for an hour almost every night getting help with coursework and exam prep. He effectively has a personal tutor to guide him through his work.

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