To think this is fine?

Why don't you change to early and late shifts? Spread the hours out over more days? Won't work for her with a Long commute but might for others

Ugh!! So the £13 actually includes a little bit of holiday pay entitlement because it’s a zero hours contract. So it’s in effect £13 per hour and no holidays

£13 per hour is low pay for an adult. If they were to walk it would be slightly bearable, however paying for buses or trains or car petrol/car upkeep makes it pointless

An hour each way to too far to travel for such a low paid role.

I wouldn't get out of bed for that kind of money, even without a commute.

I knew the posting style seemed familiar.

@Newname211 yes definitely, I didn’t put it in my post because it wouldn’t have just gotten longer but there will of course be unlimited amounts of reasons why people wouldn’t want to or be able to work longer days and would prefer more but shorter shifts.

OP wants them to be on zero-hours too

Having read some of your other threads OP, I can see there might be more to it than just the low pay.
Perhaps consider how you treat other people - neighbours, nanny, colleagues 🤔

This might seem harsh, but I think a bit of self-reflection might be called for if you want to get people willing to work for you.

Better than coming onto the internet to complain about them as if it's their fault in some way.

Maybe they can only do short days for other reasons, for example maybe they have pets, elderly parents, grandchildren, study commitments, a sick partner etc.

We can't recruit for love nor money.

Well you say that, but have you actually considered offering a higher hourly rate?

Presumably she knew how long the commute was before she applied though! Lots of you saying you wouldn’t do that commute for those 2 long days, if you did 3 days you’d be spending even longer commuting for the same pay.
I mean, I absolutely wouldn’t be commuting for those wages either but then I most certainly wouldn’t be applying.
Quite a few of our local schools have several vacancies for school support staff, formerly a desirable role for the school hours and term time working but people can no longer afford to do these jobs as the pay is just too low for it to be compatible with raising a family or even just living alone.

Ugh this. I usually started at 8:30 on paper, but was always called into a room the moment I got there (usually 15 minutes early), and never, ever went home on time. Usually was there until close at 6. That's day nurseries. Absolutely exploit their staff./

It’s the commute that would put me off - regardless of the length of shift!

Doing two long shifts would be more cost effective for petrol/parking/bus fares than 4 shorter ones though.

You keep repeating that you pay well but there's obviously something off-putting to applicants if they keep turning down the job. This is at least the second time you've posted about this so you must know whatever you're doing or offering is just not working. You come across as quite passive aggressive, the way you keep insisting that it's a good job offer and that people should be expecting to work long hours, accept a two hour commute as standard etc. Maybe it's your demands and interviewing technique that's putting people off.

You also need to be aware that many early years practitioners have children of their own, and therefore can only do shifts revolving around their own childcare.

8-6 is just not viable for many practitioners. Split the job, hire several people for part time hours. It gets complicated but it's going to be very hard for you to hire experienced early years practitioners to do 8-6.

I'd do it but a) commute and b) I like my work-life balance. I work 3 days a week at a preschool and it's wonderful. I would never want to work at a day nursery ever again.

No, I would not do that .

I did for a time, work in a nursery open from 7.30-6pm.

Staff start times were all staggered, some staff there for opening 7.30, more arrive at 8.30, then 9.30 and 10am. Staff go home 4pm, 5pm, 6pm and 6.30.

No way wouid I do 8-6 in a nursery with 2 hours commute on top.

My dd works in a nursery at £11 an hour ,she does 10 hour days , she would love £13 an hour ! I suppose it depends what the woman's circumstances are as most people couldn't live off doing 18 hours a week .

Same in every nursery I know. Normal shifts; some staff do mornings and others do evenings. Only accept as many early drop off/late pickup kids as you can staff.

Just because you pay more than others doesn't mean you pay well.

Why do staff have to work ten hour days without a paid break? Can't people do shifts?

Early years jobs are variable. Not all nurseries observe the same hours as yours, and not all expect a full 10 hour 8-6 shift. £13 ph is a fantastic wage though - I would have leapt at that as a newly qualified practitioner. Look at local colleges and unis with early years qualifications.

Lovely not lively

I wouldn't work a 10 hour day plus a 2 hour commute for £117 🤷‍♀️

I mean, can you blame her?

The staff at my DCs nursery do shorter shifts. Some do the early start and finish early, some do the later shift. They are all lively and the nursery have no problems recruiting or retaining staff.