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Respect the ocean? Shark attack

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bookofnotes · 09/06/2023 21:34

So I just saw the video and article about the man who was attached and killed by a shark in Egypt.

Comments were saying “you need to respect the ocean” and “he invaded the sharks home” and I just think fuck off.

Yes the ocean needs to be respected in regards to pollution, transport, fishing, disturbing habitats. But people (and any living being) are entitled to swim in the ocean.

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Tinkerbyebye · 10/06/2023 15:44

Correct, any living thing can swim in the ocean including sharks

its a choice a human being makes when they enter the ocean

crabbyoldappletree · 10/06/2023 15:31

Sharks really don't like or want to eat humans, we aren't their natural food source. But because humans are depleting the oceans, and the human population is much bigger, we're going to be coming into conflict with these top predators much regularly.
It's not just sharks changing their pattern of behaviour orcas are too.
I feel very sorry for the guy who died and his family, but I don't agree with killing the tiger shark, I have no idea how they knew it was that shark which caused the fatality.
As intelligent creatures we (humans) need to use our brains to develop ways of preventing conflict, look at the technology we have at out disposal; in popular seaside resorts we could use camera drones with a link to an app to alert people that a shark is in the area, and then 'flag' the beach as a 'no go zone'.
People also need to be aware of shark behaviour and that tiger and bull shark will all hunt and feed in shallow waters (approx 3-6 foot), great whites generally prefer slightly deeper but some will chance reasonably shallow water if hunting.

kingtamponthefurred · 10/06/2023 15:06

LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2023 07:43

People are entitled to walk through the jungle as long as they understand they may be killed and eaten by a lion or 2......

Lions live on the savannah; if you get eaten in the jungle it's more likely to be by one of the few remaining tigers.

IncomingTraffic · 10/06/2023 10:22

Emptycrackedcup · 10/06/2023 08:21

You mean from the Shark? It couldn't be, the Shark unfortunately died a horrible death.

And it’s a shark. I don’t think sharks are one of MN’s user groups.

SaturdayNightHayFevers · 10/06/2023 08:41

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/06/2023 08:41

Lidale · 10/06/2023 07:37

Oh for god sakes people. Someone out there lost a son, a brother, a boyfriend two days ago. And you are all here debating whether we should respect the ocean 🙄

Maybe you should all be RESPECTING that man who died and his family right now by not doing this.

I feel for them, but he went swimming in the ocean where this risk was prevalent. An innocent shark has died, simply because he did what a shark would do.

Darkstar4855 · 10/06/2023 08:37

Take it up with the people who chuck food waste off their boats and dump dead cattle off cargo ships so they don’t have to pay import charges. Human activity has brought the sharks into the beach areas.

MiniTheMinx · 10/06/2023 08:34

SilenceOfTheGoats · 09/06/2023 22:47

Sharks really do need to learn to share nicely.

I was already laughing, but I've just nearly choked on my coffee, thank you 😂

Remaker · 10/06/2023 08:32

Respect the ocean is just a way to remind people that there are many ways the ocean can kill you. So don’t underestimate it. It’s not a giant paddling pool.

Emptycrackedcup · 10/06/2023 08:21

Huytffdddc · 10/06/2023 08:16

Is this a reverse?

You mean from the Shark? It couldn't be, the Shark unfortunately died a horrible death.

Aslanplustwo · 10/06/2023 08:18

While what happened to the man was very sad, if you swim in the ocean you have to be prepared to take the risks.

Huytffdddc · 10/06/2023 08:16

Is this a reverse?

ArcaneWireless · 10/06/2023 08:13

Quite incomingtraffic

Eyerolls and capitals won’t change what has happened.

It is tragic that someone died. What happened to the shark was barbaric.

And beating a creature to death hasn’t changed anything either.

WaltzingWaters · 10/06/2023 08:07

Not too sure what your actual question is here. Of course you can swim where you’d like. But if you choose to swim in the ocean, especially in areas such as the Red Sea where shark attacks happen more frequently, you accept the risks that come with it. And no, the shark in question shouldn’t then be killed because of it.

Humans kill an estimated 73 million sharks a year. Sharks kill an average of 10 people a year, some of those provoked by humans, most due to mistaking them for seals/turtles.

If you’re going into the ocean rip tides are estimated to kill around 1000 people per year. Jellyfish kill an average of 40 people a year. They don’t sound as scary as Jaws but far more deadly. Go swim in the sea. Just do so with caution and knowledge, and accept the risks.

elm26 · 10/06/2023 08:05

Also would like to say that this I hope this man rests in peace and my love goes out to his loved ones x

elm26 · 10/06/2023 08:03

This is hands down the most stupid thing I've ever read on MN.

Sharks live in the sea, for millions of years, there is a reason why we can't breathe underwater, we shouldn't be in there. Yes it's lovely to swim in the sea, yes it's beautiful but the dangers are well known.

I've always loved sharks, since I was tiny, I respect their habitat the same as they respect mine by not getting out of the water and biting people on the beach.

I also swim in the sea, depending on where I am, I know there is some kind of risk although rare to be attacked by a shark.

I spent my childhood holidays in Florida as family live there, it was well known that bull sharks are rife there and for that reason we stuck to the pool.

Beating a shark to death for doing what its instincts tell it to do out of hunger is appalling.

LT2 · 10/06/2023 07:58

LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2023 07:43

People are entitled to walk through the jungle as long as they understand they may be killed and eaten by a lion or 2......

Are you sure about that? A lion in the jungle..🤔

IncomingTraffic · 10/06/2023 07:52

Lidale · 10/06/2023 07:37

Oh for god sakes people. Someone out there lost a son, a brother, a boyfriend two days ago. And you are all here debating whether we should respect the ocean 🙄

Maybe you should all be RESPECTING that man who died and his family right now by not doing this.

Do you feel righteous now?

Surely it’s actually more important to discuss why the sea is just dangerous and people should recognise that, and to challenge nonsense about sharks needing to respect human’s entitlement to swim because they don’t ‘own the whole ocean’, when people are dying because we too often are overconfident in how we (as humans) treat our coastal waters.

Doesn’t mean people don’t think it’s terrible someone died.

megletthesecond · 10/06/2023 07:47

This is as nuts as the elephant thread...

LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2023 07:43

People are entitled to walk through the jungle as long as they understand they may be killed and eaten by a lion or 2......

Jifmicroliquid · 10/06/2023 07:39

Humans are entitled to swim in the ocean but a shark is entitled to have one for lunch if he’s hungry.

Im so fed up of human entitlement.

Lidale · 10/06/2023 07:37

Oh for god sakes people. Someone out there lost a son, a brother, a boyfriend two days ago. And you are all here debating whether we should respect the ocean 🙄

Maybe you should all be RESPECTING that man who died and his family right now by not doing this.

ISeeMisledPeople · 10/06/2023 07:25

I just read a fesshole this morning about a man that got out of his car in the lion's den in a safari park because he needed to pee.

He survived, but clearly had a lion got to him, it wouldn't have been his fault. He was entitled to be there. In fact he even paid good money to be there!

IncomingTraffic · 10/06/2023 07:20

feralunderclass · 10/06/2023 05:05

The OP very much has the same tone of the thread where a mother was convinced a dolphin tried to rape her daughter (in the sea she was entitled to swim in) and as a result wanted to warn everyone about them. THEY ARE NOT WHAT YOU THINK! IT'S ALL AN ACT.

Given that most of us seem to think the OP is playing the idiot on the internet and talking utter shite… I suspect they might be exactly what we think they are.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 10/06/2023 07:18

excelledyourself · 09/06/2023 22:31

But people (and any living being) are entitled to swim in the ocean.

Damn right, OP. I don't know how many times I have asked, politely, that my local seaside would crank the heating up so I don't have to consider that I could possibly freeze to death in there.

Alas, i am yet to be accommodated.

Some people just don’t understand nature and the power of the sea and the creatures that live in it. I live near the sea, can see it from my bedroom window, every year we get the Spring tides, they are powerful, scary, us locals stay away from the beach until they pass. One particular year (maybe six years ago) the tides caused a lot of damage, buildings destroyed, warnings were given, red flags were up. A large section of the beach was washed away, exposing the petrified remains of forest and land that once connected us to Europe, hidden under the sand for centuries
A woman wrote to the local newspaper and the council’s Facebook page complaining about this “It’s disgusting what happened to the beach, I can’t believe the council let that happen, I pay my Council tax what are the council doing about it, I expect the sand to be replaced by the next time I go to the beach.”
She totally ignored all comments that she could still take her kids to vast sections of the beach either side of the washed away section that were unaffected. No , she wanted to use THAT section.

The petrified forest remains still exposed and I expect they always will be. Unless the Council cough up millions to import sand from a desert somewhere. (That’ll never happen)