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Ignoring "No Dogs" sign

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ChocChipHandbag · 08/06/2023 15:32

Our small local park has a top area with a playground that displays "No Dogs" signs. There is a grassy area for ball games, picnics etc where dogs are not allowed, although they can be walked through the path next to it on a lead to the large dog-friendly bit of the park.

I constantly see people letting their dogs run round there.

Every now and again I politely point out the sign and about 50% of the time they will push back with "oh, I didn't think it mattered" "No kids here at the moment are there?" "He/she is no trouble" "it's not for people like me who pick up after their dogs" or something much ruder. Sometimes I will be interrogated about why I care, as if the Council sign is irrelevant.

AIBU to wonder what goes on in these people's minds? These are middle class people with labradors etc, not louts with devil dogs on strings.

(And for what it's worth, I care because grass is not wiped clean of poo when it's picked up, dog pee burns the grass and my son is scared of dogs).

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Buildingthefuture · 11/06/2023 12:36

As someone who loves and adores dogs and has lots, I absolutely would not do this. If it’s “no dogs” it’s no dogs, I can read! I wouldn’t allow them to toilet in an area where children play. Also because so many parents just do not teach their children how to behave around dogs. Twice in the last 6 months random children have made a grab to pick up my little dogs. When one succeeded and I told him very firmly to put her down, the mother took umbrage and said he was just being friendly!!! Errrr no, that’s a good way to get bitten! Another time a random boy ran over and hit one of my big dogs on the head with a stick. The parents did nothing. So we avoid areas with children, not because my dogs can’t behave but because the children haven’t been taught to.

Bovrilla · 11/06/2023 11:59

I have a dog and this kind of behaviour makes me boiling mad

It's designated dog free and if it's enclosed like that then it's definitely enforceable by wardens/council.

One of my local village parks has a few play bits on it and even though it's not fenced or "no dogs" in I purposely keep my dog to the wooded/field end at the opposite side for any kids to feel safe and to ensure of he does go to the loo it's well away from any play equipment areas

I just don't understand why people are so irresponsible. But then maybe that just me.

PinkTonic · 11/06/2023 11:56

Nothingisblackandwhite · 09/06/2023 12:18

You have to much time on your hands . Or are you one of those weirdos that hates dogs

Why is it weird not to like dogs! Especially in inappropriate places. I can’t stand them in children’s playgrounds leaving harmful toxins behind in their faeces, shitting all over the footpath so children get it on their shoes and pram wheels, and more than ever lately in all the fucking local restaurants, slobbering, shaking hair and dander everywhere and rubbing their arses on the seats. Revolting.

MotherIand · 11/06/2023 11:54

I took these. And reported to the councils One playpark (over the border of the other two) got additional signs and fencing afterwards, and things improved there. The other two are still overloaded with idiots ignoring the signs. My kids are nearly past peak playground age, so I don’t have to deal with it as much, I do still calm it out, but it’s draining and I don’t need the hassle.

I advise photographing the evidence and reporting.

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MotherIand · 11/06/2023 11:49

oakleaffy · 08/06/2023 16:27

@ChocChipHandbag It’s utterly irresponsible of dog owners to let their dog into a dog free zone- (I am a dog owner)
Also, the worm risk.
was at vets today and a dog owner came in to reception and was horrified that their well looked after dog had passed a roundworm.

The owner has been worming their dog since puppyhood with vet prescribed meds.
(Was clear to hear!)

So yes, worms can live in dogs who are routinely wormed (This surprised me- there is no residual effect from a wormer- it just clears out adult worms-
if there are adult worms, chances are they are passing eggs in the poo - even if picked up, residual eggs could be left behind.

🤢🤢🤢🤢

I will NEVER understand wanting to own a dog, deal with shit every day, and worms etc 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Dog poo can lead to blindness in humans. Why do we risk it? My friend's husband is a teacher. A child in his school was blinded in one eye they are pretty certain was due to dog poo in the school playing field.

LlynTegid · 11/06/2023 11:42

Good on you for pointing it out.

nanamoo · 11/06/2023 11:41

oakleaffy · 10/06/2023 20:40

“ She was going to get it on the way back “??

Well done for calling the minger out for attempting to walk away from a poo.

Worms are a real risk to children. ( Visceral larval migrans I think it’s called) where the worm larvae migrated to the eye. ( Dog and cat roundworms ) where the larvae migrate through human tissues.

I was surprised to learn that three month worming does not offer protection-
It only clears out adult worms
A dog can get infected soon after a worming and be shedding eggs within the three month period.

It happened all the time at that park 😡There were plenty dog poo bins around so there wasn't any excuse for them not picking it up other than their laziness. It's a huge part of having a dog, it messes so you pick it up! Anytime we went to the park i'd always have a pocket full of poo bags even if we didn't take our dog with us. Even worse we'd often see the drunks urinating on the trees that lined the road along the edge of the park, especially when walking home with the kids from school! I'd call them out every time i saw them do it, why should little kids have to see adults doing that on their way home from primary school 😡 My kids used to laugh at the drunks then because they'd wet their trousers 😂

oakleaffy · 10/06/2023 20:40

nanamoo · 10/06/2023 19:36

I'm dog lover (lost my old boy last year at 16yr old) and it always annoys me that some dog owners like to think they are better than everybody else and ignore the rules.

Across the road from my old house, the park had a fenced off area for the kids play equipment. My kids were at the park playing and we saw a woman with a dog off lead, she just let it foul right outside the play area and went to walk away. I called over to her to ask if it was her dog and if she was going to clean up after it. She said she was going to get it on the way back?!?! Nah, love. Here's a poo bag, you can go pick it up now. She wasn't happy about being called out for it but did eventually pick it up after i gave her poo bags.

“ She was going to get it on the way back “??

Well done for calling the minger out for attempting to walk away from a poo.

Worms are a real risk to children. ( Visceral larval migrans I think it’s called) where the worm larvae migrated to the eye. ( Dog and cat roundworms ) where the larvae migrate through human tissues.

I was surprised to learn that three month worming does not offer protection-
It only clears out adult worms
A dog can get infected soon after a worming and be shedding eggs within the three month period.

oakleaffy · 10/06/2023 20:32

backinthestoneage · 10/06/2023 20:07

It is time to introduce dog licenses. Owning a pet is a privilege not a right.

Dog licences absolutely won’t work.
The responsible already get their dog chipped and registered-
The feckless won’t bother.

It can’t be policed ( Which is why it was abolished decades ago)
I pay for insurance for my dog- including third party- but you can bet the feckless won’t-

I have no idea how dogs can be adequately controlled.

Especially importing from overseas and indiscriminate breeding of unstable dogs.

Banning sales online and social media would help- It’s too easy to breed and sell dogs to unsuitable owners.

Any old idiot can do it.

Tax free.

backinthestoneage · 10/06/2023 20:07

It is time to introduce dog licenses. Owning a pet is a privilege not a right.

nanamoo · 10/06/2023 19:36

I'm dog lover (lost my old boy last year at 16yr old) and it always annoys me that some dog owners like to think they are better than everybody else and ignore the rules.

Across the road from my old house, the park had a fenced off area for the kids play equipment. My kids were at the park playing and we saw a woman with a dog off lead, she just let it foul right outside the play area and went to walk away. I called over to her to ask if it was her dog and if she was going to clean up after it. She said she was going to get it on the way back?!?! Nah, love. Here's a poo bag, you can go pick it up now. She wasn't happy about being called out for it but did eventually pick it up after i gave her poo bags.

FheridanSox · 09/06/2023 22:14

I work at Battersea and currently have 3 dogs, 2 cats, fish, chicken and a bearded dragon with one leg missing! I love animals but that doesn’t mean everyone else must share my enthusiasm. I’m a responsible pet owner. 2 of my dogs I will let run free and the other I keep on the lead because he’s a rescue and doesn’t have 100% recall. I stick to walking them in dog friendly parks. My local park has a no-dog picnic area and I wouldn’t dream of going in there with the dogs. I would definitely speak up if I saw someone doing it.

I know it’s controversial, and I realise we’re a nation of animal lovers, but at the end of the day, they are animals and human rights must come first.

Romeiswheretheheartis · 09/06/2023 21:20

One woman said “well my children wouldn’t be able to come in if the dog didn’t come in too” - maybe leave the fucking dog at home for once then?

With no thought for the other children who didn't feel able to go in because her dog was in there. So selfish.

aloofflooty · 09/06/2023 19:42

I give up. Where are you supposed to go if you don’t want dogs running off the lead and peeing and shitting everywhere?

This is what I want to know too. You get told if you don't like dogs, don't go anywhere where they are - what everywhere? I can't go to the beach, park, woodland, cafe, shops, high street or hairdressers then? Ever?

I'm not scared of dogs but I do think they are revolting, unhygienic, antisocial creatures with more often than not these days, knobs for owners. And I'm so cross that I'm supposed to stay at home so they can rule the land or I'm supposed to put up with being jumped at, barked at or slobbered on and suck it up.

Livelovebehappy · 09/06/2023 19:38

Self entitled dog owners, just like self entitled parents. Both sets are equally guilty of not controlling their darlings around other people unfortunately.

TheCheeseTray · 09/06/2023 19:23

ChocChipHandbag · 08/06/2023 16:03

We actually do have a "friends of the park" organisation who raise it with the Council periodically and I believe that it is something that penalties could be issued for, but the council (understandably) don't have the resources to police it. We've asked for more signs but I'm not sure that it would make any difference because the offenders admit they saw the signs and chose to ignore them.

You see I raised our local park with the local parish council as it had a do not use sign and was not used and was huge and we have a great deal of elderly people who wanted to walk their dog we then found out - actually the signs were not legal and anyone could walk their dog. Signs were removed, dog bins placed - everyone was and is happy with it.

Airspice · 09/06/2023 19:19

Park near me has clear signs ‘dogs must be kept on a lead’, every single dog owner ignores them, dogs loose everywhere, everything time I go! 😡

1ittlegreen · 09/06/2023 19:02

Sometimes, if owners do come into the 'no dogs' area when I'm with my children I will gladly pull out small boxes of easily recognisable Sunmaid raisins for the kids to eat, or Cadbury chocolate bars. The owners soon clear off scared that the kids will drop the raisins and their dogs will hoover them up.

Muu · 09/06/2023 18:55

I have relatives who are quite antisocial with their dogs (which is partially why I’ve gone off them) and they simply don’t care about signs like this unless someone confronts them. To them dog wee is just like water and they don’t care about dog dirt either. They only pick up after their dog if someone is looking at them ready to tell them off if they don’t.

if you stop keeping dogs for a few years you realise how nice it is to have an area people don’t bring their dogs to but some owners are desensitised.

transformandriseup · 09/06/2023 18:40

We are getting this in our local park. It is a fenced off play area for children with a sign that says no dogs and a few years ago you would have never seen a dog in there but now people bring them in all the time and are rude to you when you tell them. I don't actually mind is a dog is on a lead and sitting next to its owner while the children play but many are just roaming free. Suddenly people are becoming more entitled and thinking rules don't apply to them. I know it's a civil matter but some children are very uncomfortable around dogs and the play area is supposed to be a dog free area.

acpk55 · 09/06/2023 18:32

Those no dogs signs are not worth the plastic they are printed on unless you have a PSPO to enforce it, some councils are now using the PSPO rules to enforce this

topnoddy · 09/06/2023 18:31

3 words
Entitled Pig Ignorance

Justalittlebitduckling · 09/06/2023 18:11

Complain to the council. Or better, show up at a meeting and raise it. So few people bother they listen to the ones who show up. I imagine you’ll be speaking for 100s of people who agree with you but can’t be bothered to pursue it.

VDisappointing · 09/06/2023 17:20

I completely agree with you my son picked up a very bad bacteria from dog poo on grass in the park.
I am not sure it would help but I would complain to the council.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/06/2023 13:21

ChocChipHandbag · 08/06/2023 19:00

I get that if you are someone who has a dog in your living space all day every day, maybe even on your bed or sofa, it must be really really weird to think that a dog could remotely bother someone who has to share a park with it.

I'm trying to think of an equivalent, I dunno, maybe a park that doesn't allow picnics? We all have food in our homes, everyone loves food, right? We all need to eat. I clear up after myself, what's the issue?

Would I have a picnic anyway under a No Picnic sign? If I could not work out what on earth might be the reason for banning picnics there? And the picnic area next door was very busy?

I like to think I wouldn't. But maybe that's unrealistic.

I’d say a better equivalent would be if the dog section had a “no children sign” - would you let your kid run around in it whilst telling all the dog owners not to worry because he’s friendly and cute…

Bonus points for “he’s only playing” when he starts chasing the dogs.