Parking charge notice

*As THE driver…

OP, perhaps you don’t realise as a non-driver, but it is the DRIVER’S responsibility to drive in accordance with the law and local bylaws, not to mention the Highway Code.

As their driver, your husband is responsible for the fine. He was controlling the vehicle, even if he was giving someone else a lift.

Or knocked someone over/had a collision with another car?

If your partner doesn't have driving listed as one of his duties in the work contract, I would suggest he ensures he is definitely insured to drive company vehicles.

It would be a much bigger problem if he gets pulled by the police for not having insurance, and points.

I would also suggest not to take directions from a non-driver!

People are being very unfair to you but they are correct, your partner is liable to pay in this instance. If we didn't make mistakes though, we would never learn from them! I'm sure he won't do it again!

Moving forward, if your partner isn't insured by the company for driving vehicles, he must immediately stop, regardless of what his supervisor says. If he is insured and he is happy driving, tell him to keep his eyes peeled!

Every company I have worked for have been clear that if you drive on company business any fines or penalties (driving / parking) are the drivers not the companies.

Annoying but if he doesn’t want to drive he should have said.

He directed him to go through town. He didn't direct your DH to drive contrary to the law. Your DH chose to do that.

The law may not be on your side but morally the supervisor should offer, I’m definitely on your side OP!

I drive a work car and know any fines are my responsibility as I am the one driving, the one in control of the vehicle not any passenger

This can't be right surely?

What do you suggest?

That driving around for his supervisor, Amherst should be immune from the Highway Code ?

How odd.

Yet still you deemed it worthy of a shitty response.

You're confused about car rental agreements too. You're responsible for all traffic violations in a rental car too. There's no such thing as a "liability agreement" in a car rental agreement so I don't know where you've even got that term from.

😀you can't tell you dh what to do at work op.it's up to him to discuss with supervisor.
annoying as it is,it's one of those things.don't get any more stressed about it,you sound too invested in the supervisor not driving.Politely,it's not your business.

Recently started a new job and had to drive into central London for an ‘away day’ event on a weekend.
Was told by one of my new colleagues that I didn’t have to pay congestion charges - but not so according to the TWO penalty notices I’ve now received - totalling £180 😱
But it’s my fault for not checking…

I had a delivery that was going to take a little while. I offered the guys a visitors parking permit. They said not to bother as the company paid any fines.
I think unfortunately your husband made the error so should pay. Though I have had satnav make me go down restricted streets on two occasions, it also says that I am responsible for knowing any restrictions in place - a bit if a catch 22 situation as I wouldn't be using the satnav if I knew the streets! But bus lanes are bus lanes and he was in error.

That's an entirely separate issue. The issue is that op expects her DH's supervisor to pay for her his bad driving. Which is entirely unreasonable.

No, because ultimately the law trumps any agreement that he would sign.

Even if his employer was very generous and had a contract that said they would accept responsibility for any driving misdemeanors, it would still be your DP that would be issued the speeding/parking/bus lane ticket, etc.

By law, it is his responsibility to follow the laws of the road, but also to ensure that he is legally insured to drive the vehicle and that the vehicle is in a roadworthy condition before he drives it.

If he gets pulled over, it is him that would get points for driving without insurance, for example.

My BIL used to be a police officer on traffic and after he retired from the police force went and worked for Tesco as a delivery driver. One day his manager tried to send him out with a load for delivery that contained a huge amount of drinks someone had ordered. My BIL took one look at the van and said "that's over weight - I can't drive that". His manager gave him a bollocking saying that it was his decision which van he drives and he could like it or lump it.

My BIL said "Fine, I'll drive it, but I'm going straight to the nearest weighbridge and if when that shows it's overweight I'm bringing it straight back. I'm not risking my licence for your incompetence."

Wow, I can't believe I'm in such a minority, I sympathize with you. Your do is basically doing his company a favour driving his incompetent boss around, so even if he inadvertently broke the law himself I think they should be morally obliged to at least help out with the fine. The company sounds unprofessional.

If your boss tells you to do something illegal you think everyone would follow that order? No, not at all!

If you husbands supervisor forced him to drive into a bus lane, then your husband must raise this with higher up as it;s bullying and illegal. In fact, it's probably something to report to the police - being forced into illegal activities

Some fucking cunty responses on here OP. Not sure why - seems a reasonable question, you've accepted that he is liable and now people are calling you names?

FWIW I drove through a bus lane recently - I've been driving for 20+ years, and in town for at least 10 but didn't realise the markings had changed. No, I didn't notice a sign.

People make mistakes. And people ask questions if they're not sure of something. No excuse to be so rude. And I'm normally one being accused of being mean!

This this this.

I'm glad you were able to express this point in a way I was unable to 😂

Op is using badly flawed logic. And seems to want to defend DH's position when it's indefensible.

How far do you take that argument?

If DP hadn’t been born, he wouldn’t have been driving, therefore the fine is technically his mother’s fine?

If the council hadn’t installed a bus lane, he wouldn’t have got a fine for where he was driving, so technically it’s the council’s fine?

Your husband isn’t some little powerless individual who has to drive in a bus lane because his boss told him to. Presumably he wouldn’t have driven the wrong way up a one way street? Or joined a motorway going the other way? Or driven off a bridge?

The company should pay for fuel,insurance, tolls etc. But not fines from driver error

The fact that it isn't his job to ferry his supervisor around, and doesn't like doing it, is unrelated to the fact that he didn't follow the rules of the road. That's on your DP.
If the company/supervisor is decent, they may well make a contribution towards paying it, but the law is clear, it's your DPs issue.

If your DP isn't comfortable driving people around for work, or driving at night, or whatever, that's a discussion he needs to have with his management.