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Speed camera flashed me doing 41 on a 40

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Lacucuracha · 06/06/2023 16:00

Hi all, I got flashed by a speed camera last night on a dual carriageway with a speed limit of 40. I was doing 41 (I know as I had an eye on the speedometer as I went through the speed camera markings).

Do you think I will get a fine / points? Or will they assess it and find it's in the tolerance limit?

Other context is there have been a few pedestrians killed on people turning into junctions from this dual carriage way.

Thank you for your comments in advance.

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terriblyangryattimes · 06/06/2023 20:04

Legally speaking the tolerance threshold is a guide. If a county wanted to send an offence letter to someone doing 31 in a 30 legally they could.

They don't though because the paperwork and the admin of getting everyone on a course is too much. Plus if a camera is slightly mis calibrated it's even more paperwork when everyone who has an offence on the same day appeals their offence 😆 (speaking from experience here on the latter)

Beenalongwinter · 06/06/2023 19:53

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 06/06/2023 17:29

DH got a fine a few years ago for going 32 in a 30. He had to go a on a speed awareness course.

My DH got a
£100 fine for
Doing 22 or23 in a 20MPH zone in London at 7 am when the roads were empty.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 06/06/2023 18:42

AllyCart · 06/06/2023 18:40

So he didn't get a speeding fine, he got a speed course?

You don't get both.

Yes - by fine I meant he had to pay for the course, sorry!

AllyCart · 06/06/2023 18:40

So he didn't get a speeding fine, he got a speed course?

You don't get both.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 06/06/2023 18:36

SofiaSoFar · 06/06/2023 18:32

There is absolutely no way whatsoever that he could get a fine for 32 in a 30 and have to attend an SAC.

You're 'misremembering' if you're not making it up.

lol, I'm not "misremembering" anything - I don't have to prove anything to you either 😂

I remember questioning it at the time as I thought it was utterly batshit - but it was true and he did the SAC online via zoom.

SofiaSoFar · 06/06/2023 18:32

There is absolutely no way whatsoever that he could get a fine for 32 in a 30 and have to attend an SAC.

You're 'misremembering' if you're not making it up.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 06/06/2023 18:27

SofiaSoFar · 06/06/2023 18:23

No he didn't.

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Yes, he did Hmm I saw the letter!

Why would I lie about something so pointless?

SofiaSoFar · 06/06/2023 18:23

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 06/06/2023 17:29

DH got a fine a few years ago for going 32 in a 30. He had to go a on a speed awareness course.

No he didn't.

SofiaSoFar · 06/06/2023 17:54

I would strongly recommend looking at something like top motoring barrister Andrew Thompson's website (counsel.direct) rather than the made up stuff being posted in this thread, such as getting an SAC for 31 in a 30... 🙄

These are thresholds for action:

Speed camera flashed me doing 41 on a 40
RandomUsernameHere · 06/06/2023 17:52

The car speedometer is not that accurate so you may well have been doing under 40

DappledThings · 06/06/2023 17:43

I've been flashed twice. Nothing has happened afterwards either time.

dawnc27 · 06/06/2023 17:42

terriblyangryattimes · 06/06/2023 17:28

Oh and Truvelo cams only take one photo. There are a few different types

i stand corrected then, did not know that

panromanticist · 06/06/2023 17:39

I got flashed doing about 55 in a temporary 50 on a motorway a gazillion years ago. I was resigned to my fate, but a letter never arrived. Though pretty much every car was being flashed, so I wonder if they were just trying to scare people with those cameras.

FrippEnos · 06/06/2023 17:30

I don't know if its still true but some of the older cameras used to have to discharge the flash after a certain amount of time.

But this maybe a myth.

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Lacucuracha · 06/06/2023 17:30

terriblyangryattimes · 06/06/2023 17:26

The camera team at your local force will assess the offence, they will send out a letter if it is classed as a speeding offence and you'll be able to log on to their SAP portal online to view the photos and speed recordings.

You can then accept the fine and points, take the retraining course (cheaper option no points) or take the offence to court to fight it.

Each county has a different threshold. It's commonly 10% plus 2 but this has changed in some regions over the past few months.

Unfortunately no way to know if you commited an offence till you get a letter in my area these letters go out about 3 weeks after the offence.

(I work in an adjacent team to the safety camera team)

Very helpful, thank you.

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coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 06/06/2023 17:29

DH got a fine a few years ago for going 32 in a 30. He had to go a on a speed awareness course.

terriblyangryattimes · 06/06/2023 17:28

Oh and Truvelo cams only take one photo. There are a few different types

terriblyangryattimes · 06/06/2023 17:26

The camera team at your local force will assess the offence, they will send out a letter if it is classed as a speeding offence and you'll be able to log on to their SAP portal online to view the photos and speed recordings.

You can then accept the fine and points, take the retraining course (cheaper option no points) or take the offence to court to fight it.

Each county has a different threshold. It's commonly 10% plus 2 but this has changed in some regions over the past few months.

Unfortunately no way to know if you commited an offence till you get a letter in my area these letters go out about 3 weeks after the offence.

(I work in an adjacent team to the safety camera team)

HomeB · 06/06/2023 17:26

My friend (lived here all her life) got a ticket for doing 40 in a 40. Or so she thought, the road had been changed to a 30 months before and the camera only just updated.

There was a sign, someone had crashed into it and bent the pole and a tree was obscuring it.

dawnc27 · 06/06/2023 17:23

sure they have to flash twice to get the speed measured over a certain distance, start and end of the white lines i think so i think like others say it was an accidental flash/faulty camera

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Lacucuracha · 06/06/2023 17:22

tweener · 06/06/2023 17:21

Was there a temporary speed limit in place that you perhaps missed?

No, definitely not.

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Galatine · 06/06/2023 17:21

In my experience most car speedometers read slightly higher than the true speed. My last two cars read about 42mph while the Sat Nav showed 30/40. It is probable that you were not over the limit. In any case you are unlikely to get a fine for being at a speed within the permitted margin of error which I think is +-10%.

tweener · 06/06/2023 17:21

Was there a temporary speed limit in place that you perhaps missed?

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Lacucuracha · 06/06/2023 17:19

One flash

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dawnc27 · 06/06/2023 17:18

one or two flashes?