Given notice at work

there are a number of ways if an employee hands in their notice that the employer can shorten this (without employee approval) gardening leave, PILON etc. is there a reciprocal mechanism where if the employer is serving notice the employee can shorten the period?

No. If you leave without serving your notice they could, in theory, sue you for any incurred losses. It's a small risk, probably wouldn't happen but I have known it to happen so you can't assume it isn't a risk. You also won't get a reference!

I'd be inclined to do the minimum and take the pay for the 3 months to get another job. I might risk it and walk out as soon as I have one and the reference is done though!

So would I!

If training people to do your job isn't in your job description, you would be well within your rights to refuse to do it and just do a basic handover instead. Training is quite well paid I'm told.... maybe double the salary you get now? Just a thought.
Tgh, if it was me, and I didn't need to worry about a reference, I'd start clearing my desk.

I'd personally go off sick with stress and just not go back.
It's not like they're going to fire you 😂

Don't just give your notice away. Ask for gardening leave or pay in lieu of notice. It is there to protect you when you have no redundancy entitlement.

Then you would have a cushion (well earned) to rest of look for another job.

Idk how close you are to the 2 years. Close? I would consider consulting an employment solicitor. Do not sign anything. Go off sick if needed. The company is on dodgy grounds if they’re not really making your role redundant. Scroll down to frequently asked questions. You may not get anywhere but it seems very odd they can want your expertise then sack you. https://www.davidsonmorris.com/dismissing-an-employee-with-less-than-2-years-service/

Have you got accrued leave you could take do or part of it? If so I'd be taking that.

How much notice does your contract say you must give? If it's only a month you could just hand in notice and leave in a month. If it's 3 months I think you have to stay. But don't put yourself out for them.

If you had found another job and were handing your notice in, what would your notice period be? If less than three months, hand your notice in and take any annual leave that they owe you in the interim. The two years to be protected is far too long in my opinion but I digress.

What can they do ?
Sounds like they've been a bit cheeky.
People say about references but most places now just give dates and role type references.
If you're not desperate for the money I'd just leave.

Assure them that everything will be in the handover document, but don’t share it until you actually leave. Make it so vague it’s impossible to follow.

:) :)

even in another city.
good idea. :)

I would put all your efforts into finding a new job. You will need them for a reference.

Do the bare minimum, put off training staff for as long as possible.

Assure them that everything will be in the handover document, but don’t share it until you actually leave. Make it so vague it’s impossible to follow.

If they're making you redundant, surely that means your role is no longer required, so why would you need to train someone how to do your role?

If they do need you to train someone to do your specific job role, then it means the business does need that role filled and they can't make you redundant surely?

I know you feel bad but that's how employment contracts work. Are you formally being made redundant or have they dismissed you?

Either way, the right thing would be to work your notice. However, you could be signed off with stress and do it thty way.

Just note that a new employer can be given the amount of sick leave you've taken.

I just wouldn't turn up on monday. The legal expenses of proving economic loss will rule most employers out from pursuing for breach of contract. I say this having walked out of my last job in working commerical contracts, where their entire business was litigation 😁

Maybe your doctor could sign you off with depression op?

There’s no point in discussion PILON with a company who have decided to replace the Op with cheaper alternatives just before she hits two years.

they know exactly what they want - her training said alternatives. They’re not going to let her go early

@Forgotwhat if it’s not catastrophic in your industry I’d get signed off sick

Remember you are allowed to take reasonable time off for interviews, etc, so make sure you have plenty of "interviews" lined up 🙂

Go off sick with the stress of having to find a new job.

What they gonna do ?

You could argue that 3 months notice after only being in the role for 20 months (for example), isn't proportionate, and that you believe 6 weeks notice would be sufficient and appropriate given the circumstances.

Very good point. Op in case the notice period takes you over 2 years then you would be entitled to the associated rights including redundancy and unfair dismissal claims.

Sorry if this has already been said (I haven't currently got my glasses with me so can't read clearly) but ask them about PILON (payment in lieu of notice).

I had this about 12 years ago, so it may be different now, but it meant I left immediately and got the money owing to me tax free

I am so sorry to hear that op. I hope you can find a solution fir you to go soon. 💐💐💐💐

Do a shit job of teaching them, keep contradicting yourself, make it fun for you.