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Bill-splitting

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Clemsie · 31/05/2023 00:27

Five of us had dinner last night - two couples and myself (I’m a single parent). At the end when the bill arrived, one of the couples declared that the bill would be split three ways. I’m not sure how it made sense that a bill for a party of five was split three ways but was too embarrassed to say anything. As a result I’m £20 out of pocket. AIBU to think that the bill should not
have been split three ways? Also, should I just stay quiet about the £20 and never go out with them again? What is the correct bill-splitting etiquette in this situation?

OP posts:
Billyho · 01/06/2023 10:49

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 01/06/2023 10:01

I went out for dinner with my DB and SIL recently. When the bill came DB split it 50/50. I pointed out that there were 3 of us and therefore I would pay 1/3. Apparently because they have a joint account they only ever pay as 1 person. I laughed. Put my 1/3 (cash) on the table and refused to pay a penny more.

Well done!

ditalini · 01/06/2023 10:14

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 01/06/2023 10:01

I went out for dinner with my DB and SIL recently. When the bill came DB split it 50/50. I pointed out that there were 3 of us and therefore I would pay 1/3. Apparently because they have a joint account they only ever pay as 1 person. I laughed. Put my 1/3 (cash) on the table and refused to pay a penny more.

Years ago I went out a few times with a guy who saw it as a slight on his manhood for me to get the drinks in. But when we went out with friends (mostly single) he'd only buy one round and it didn't compute with him why this was unfair and tight.

I think it was about 75% of the reason I broke up with him. Can't stand rip off merchants (or men with weirdo ideas about being a "gentleman").

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 01/06/2023 10:01

I went out for dinner with my DB and SIL recently. When the bill came DB split it 50/50. I pointed out that there were 3 of us and therefore I would pay 1/3. Apparently because they have a joint account they only ever pay as 1 person. I laughed. Put my 1/3 (cash) on the table and refused to pay a penny more.

Billyho · 01/06/2023 10:00

Casperroonie · 01/06/2023 09:55

Oh look OP, this lady's offering to pay your share as it's "only 20 quid" How kind!!! Be sure to post your details. Cash or cheque?

😂

Casperroonie · 01/06/2023 09:58

DomPom47 · 31/05/2023 08:27

Your friends are either stupid and can’t count heads or can’t see the logic of two couples and a single person doesn’t mean you divide bill into 3 rather than 5 or they’re just mean. Either way I would distance myself from them.

I think you're right, and that actually they're just mean. A good friend would look out for you and would never let something so unfair happen when out for dinner. Definitely distance yourself from them.

Casperroonie · 01/06/2023 09:55

Attractedtotheofflimits · 31/05/2023 00:38

It's £20. Hardly gonna break the bank

Oh look OP, this lady's offering to pay your share as it's "only 20 quid" How kind!!! Be sure to post your details. Cash or cheque?

Billyho · 01/06/2023 09:50

Nevermind91 · 01/06/2023 00:25

Ugh, I can't bear bill-splitting. It's invariably suggested and "organised" by someone at the table who knows how to get themselves a cheap night out.
I've been stung this way. Having driven to the venue to meet the others, and watched them quaff gallons of wine, it's almost funny how the one with the biggest mouth declares that they've cleverly split the bill so many ways... totally ignoring the fact that some have only had one course and a couple of soft drinks, while others have gorged on a banquet and drunk the place dry.

I am the one who invariably splits the bill, when I go out to eat (not often), I like to eat and drink what I want, I don’t want to go for the set menu if I don’t want to, or miss dessert, it’s a treat and I want to enjoy.

I am meticulous about paying my way completely and making sure someone who has chosen cheapest alternatives does not subsidise my choices (or anyone else’s). I want to sort the bill myself to ensure I don’t feel I have to chose options I don’t want or it won’t be fair.

hopefully then my friends don’t say I’ve gorged on a banquet or drunk the place dry!

maybe that’s why I’m always asked to deal with the bill and what people owe etc.

So it’s not always the people trying to be cheapskates that do the bill split.

burnoutbabe · 01/06/2023 08:01

Nevermind91 · 01/06/2023 00:25

Ugh, I can't bear bill-splitting. It's invariably suggested and "organised" by someone at the table who knows how to get themselves a cheap night out.
I've been stung this way. Having driven to the venue to meet the others, and watched them quaff gallons of wine, it's almost funny how the one with the biggest mouth declares that they've cleverly split the bill so many ways... totally ignoring the fact that some have only had one course and a couple of soft drinks, while others have gorged on a banquet and drunk the place dry.

Bill splitting is okay when you all eat the same

But the issue here isn't just spotting it equally, it's splitting it into 3 equal parts when it's 5 people. That's just madness!

Bluebellsparklypant · 01/06/2023 07:14

Op yes that’s unfair, I don’t drink when I go out but friends do they always take the alcohol out of the bill before spilling it. However you can’t bring it up now after the event that would just be very petty . If you go again just have a line ready to say when the bill arrives like let’s share this 5 ways or however many are eating. A learning curve this time

user1492757084 · 01/06/2023 00:26

So, you paid 20 pounds for a life lesson learnt.

You need to stay aware and speak up for your self.

The 3 way split was not thought out well but not a reason to cut a friendship. Next time be on your game.

Nevermind91 · 01/06/2023 00:25

Ugh, I can't bear bill-splitting. It's invariably suggested and "organised" by someone at the table who knows how to get themselves a cheap night out.
I've been stung this way. Having driven to the venue to meet the others, and watched them quaff gallons of wine, it's almost funny how the one with the biggest mouth declares that they've cleverly split the bill so many ways... totally ignoring the fact that some have only had one course and a couple of soft drinks, while others have gorged on a banquet and drunk the place dry.

SleepingStandingUp · 01/06/2023 00:20

Attractedtotheofflimits · 31/05/2023 00:41

Don't go for meals then, stay home if you can't afford to spend 20 on a meal

why should op spend an EXTRA £20 subsidising someone elses meals? By that logic, it was only £10 per couple extra so why are THEY going out if they can't afford to pay for the food they ate

Irritateandunreasonable · 01/06/2023 00:09

Attractedtotheofflimits · 31/05/2023 00:41

Don't go for meals then, stay home if you can't afford to spend 20 on a meal

OP can - £20 new out budget is different to £40 meal out budget. Not hard to work out.

SamW98 · 01/06/2023 00:06

It’s shit OP but I think it’s too late to say anything now after the event but please learn from this and if theres a next time, then only pay your fair share - don’t subsidise these grabbers

workemails · 31/05/2023 23:59

Sorry OP, thats not a nice situation. I would not go out with them again and would think less of everyone there who did not stand up for you. They arent your friends.

AllyCart · 31/05/2023 23:50

If you put the overall figures in - based on OP overpaying by £20 it's even more cheeky fuckery than it sounds at first.

it must have been a total bill of £150 and OP paid £50 while the others paid £25 each.

Breakingpoint1961 · 31/05/2023 23:49

What a delightful thread..some very choice posters on hereHmm

OP I hope you do come back and look at some of the very kind responses to your plight, and ignore totally the idiotic onesHmm

I get why you didn't say anything, money is always a delicate subject, however, you can't allow it to happen again. Next time, you think about what you can do with that ££ you're about to give away, that'll make you speak up!

And to the poster who said "it won't break the bank" I hope to fuck you never fall on hard times..what an absolute dick you are..

scorpiogirly · 31/05/2023 23:44

Horrible. Not sure anyone could think this was fair when suggesting it. I would have said, it's okay I'll just get my own.

Chachachachachachacha · 31/05/2023 23:42

Really? I think the op behaved as most would when taken aback in an awkward situation and is certainly less of a cunt than some on here who would have created a massive scene without a second thought! Though I suspect some of the keyboard warriors may be a lot less bold than they are happy to be online.

Billyho · 31/05/2023 23:35

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Harsh but fair!

Chachachachachachacha · 31/05/2023 23:35

And I can see why the op didn’t speak up at the time. You wouldn’t be expecting people to assume you’re paying for them and the op was probably shocked. It’s much easier to think of what to say in hindsight!

Chachachachachachacha · 31/05/2023 23:33

As a fellow unassertive person I’d probably say nothing now and just avoid eating out with them in future. It would probably be more awkward to bring it up now than at the time. If you do want to go out with them again though at least you’re prepared and can say something like “is it ok if I just pay for my food? I’m a bit skint until pay day. Obviously I’ll pay towards the tip”. That’s very unconfrontational but makes it clear that they’re asking you to pay for their food and they can’t really say “no, you have to pay for us”.

GeorginaBell · 31/05/2023 23:33

Take your money to have it ready beforehand. Or say this time you’ll just cover what you’ve had if that’s ok with everyone. You have every right to own it sometimes people are really thick.

grumpycow1 · 31/05/2023 22:59

Yep it should have been split 5 ways, each couple to pay 2/5 if they are paying together. But I don’t get why you wouldn’t just speak up. Next time be brave!

VonThorn · 31/05/2023 22:57

1offnamechange · 31/05/2023 19:00

Don't be obtuse
The actual point you were trying to make might be 'common fucking sense'.
I, and the vast majority of other posters made the same point, we just came out and said it .
Just have the courage of your convictions and say 'You should have done X' rather than this odd 'I'll pretend to not know what's going on by asking what happened when you said/did [the thing I think you should have done] despite the fact you have already made clear you didn't do/say it.'

It's a weird thing peculiar to MN that I've never seen anywhere else.

What possible relevance is it that on other threads not all the info is included in the OP when on this actual thread the info is included? The post says very clearly "I...was too embarrassed to say anything. As a result I’m £20 out of pocket."

I agree. I thought posters falling over themselves to get in the first 'so what happened when you told them to fuck off OP?' type reply had finally died a death along with the pearl clutching. But no. It's just snarky and unhelpful. I usually feel mildly irritated when I see someone dusting it off for the millionth time.

OP, I get it - in the real world, many people would have just paid up and felt sore about it afterwards, the same as you. YANBU, obv.