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Work Event vs School Disco

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PineapplePrincess · 24/05/2023 21:44

Sanity check please…

I have an overnighter for work. Select management community, first time I’ve qualified to attend despite a long history working for the company. Evening dinner (finishes by 10pm) followed by all day workshops. Starts the next day at 8:30am. Even if I didn’t do the overnighter there is no way I would get to the venue for an 8am start with childcare, traffic, etc.

I’ve chosen to stay over. Something DH was not exactly pleased about at the time, but he’s entirely capable of looking after our two DS. (Last work overnighter was 2-3years ago, for context.)

Overnighter coincides with oldest DS(9) disco. Something I wasn’t aware of at the point I agreed to go. DH is now refusing to take DS to disco, which DS is distraught about.

It would be awkward with school finishing (DS walks home at 3pm) nursery pick-up (latest 6pm), dinner, disco drop off (7pm), disco pick up (8pm) and bed downs. But it’s not impossible. I’ve suggest options to make things work - e.g. order pizza for dinner, skip the evening baths, let the boys stay up a bit later, ask neighbour (who’s son is also attending) to pick DS up at end of disco. The school and nursery are literally next door to our house, so it’s not a huge trek just cumbersome.

But he’s refusing to consider any options which could make the disco work. And it’s my fault DS can’t go.

I’m feeling so guilty and kinda wish I could cancel, but now worry it’s too late as company would be charged hotels costs and my last minute withdrawal would likely be ‘noted’.

DH is making it sound like off for a fun night on the town with my friends, abandoning him and kids - when actually I’m dreading the whole thing. I’m not familiar/ friendly with most people who are attending - I feel a bit obliged to go but also recognise (through recent work coaching) I need to push out of my introverted ways and expand my network. I’m hoping doing so will help me make my day job easier, which is not easy currently and quite demanding.

I just feel horrid, but I’m pushing ahead and going despite really wishing I wasn’t.

AIBU?

OP posts:
maddening · 25/05/2023 00:07

Tell him you are speaking to the neighbour and if he even thinks about trying to ruin anything for either you or your son because he is a petty jealous prick then you will not forgive him nor will you forget.

NoSquirrels · 25/05/2023 00:02

It would be awkward with school finishing (DS walks home at 3pm) nursery pick-up (latest 6pm), dinner, disco drop off (7pm), disco pick up (8pm) and bed downs. But it’s not impossible. I’ve suggest options to make things work - e.g. order pizza for dinner, skip the evening baths, let the boys stay up a bit later, ask neighbour (who’s son is also attending) to pick DS up at end of disco. The school and nursery are literally next door to our house, so it’s not a huge trek just cumbersome.

I mean, I read this and I thought so fucking what? Isn’t that just everyday primary-school parent life? Have more than one kid, suck up some day to day scheduling inconvenience. You live next door to school and nursery, it could hardly be less inconvenient, really. He shouldn’t need you to suggest skipping baths and ordering pizza for a fucking school disco pick up. Wanker.

Grumpy67i8 · 24/05/2023 23:59

Tough for DS but he will get over it. I think it's really important you go, stand your ground and set yourself up career wise as your DH is an abusive arsehole. Is he controlling in other ways?

NoSquirrels · 24/05/2023 23:56

And it’s my fault DS can’t go.

No, it’s not. It’s 100% your D(ickhead)H fault.

The only conceivable way it’s your fault is because you had children with a selfish arsehole. And you get a free pass on that because so many of them are.

Arrange it with your neighbour. If your DH wants to then unarrange it he’ll have to explain directly to neighbour whilst looking like the selfish twat he is. Social embarrassment will mean he won’t unarrange it.

FlamingoCroquet · 24/05/2023 23:50

PineapplePrincess · 24/05/2023 22:22

Thank you for the replies, makes me feel better that I’m not out on a limb here.

I have suggested neighbour takes DS (along with her DS who is in the same year; both boys do get along well) and I’m pretty sure she would happily do so - she’s offered in the past. But DH doesn’t want to hear any of it. He stating it’s our responsibility to look after DS, not to palm him off on others when we have something better to do.

I don’t have any family to ask. And DH’s family are too far away to help out on this occasion (not that he’d ask them either - doesn’t like to be indebted to people!)

OP, your update makes your DH sound worse if anything, dismissing a perfectly good solution as if he's in charge. Why is he able to dictate what you do and don't do? He sounds really controlling, and the fact you called your first post a 'sanity check' suggests that he has you doubting your own judgement.

L1ttledrummergirl · 24/05/2023 23:33

"Dh, are you sure that you want to let our dc down by refusing to take him, ok, then I will speak to the other parents/ teachers and tell them what a knob you're being the situation, maybe someone can step up for you help me to get our son there without you".

Then tell the world what an arsehole he's being.

Clementinesucks · 24/05/2023 23:33

So he’s against you furthering you career, and he’ll punish your child to get to you. I could not be with someone like this. What a deeply unpleasant and sad little man he must be. Pathetic.

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 24/05/2023 23:29

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 24/05/2023 23:27

Is he always a complete that, or is this a first.

i like the earlier suggestion of showing him this thread.

"D"H .... If you do read this, You are a prize knob. Awful to your poor child, awful to your wife.
Give your head a wobble and ask yourself why you are being so nasty.

*twat

My phone doesn't like me swearing 😁

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 24/05/2023 23:27

Is he always a complete that, or is this a first.

i like the earlier suggestion of showing him this thread.

"D"H .... If you do read this, You are a prize knob. Awful to your poor child, awful to your wife.
Give your head a wobble and ask yourself why you are being so nasty.

Daffodil92 · 24/05/2023 23:13

He is an absolute cunt.
and a shit dad and an even shitter husband. How DARE he emotionally blackmail you like this?

steff13 · 24/05/2023 23:06

I cannot imagine punishing my child to hurt my spouse. But, I'm not a twatwaffle.

I would definitely make arrangements for the neighbor to take him. I would make arrangements for the neighbor to pick him up from school so that he goes straight there that day. And possibly spend the night as well so that your husband doesn't have the opportunity to put the kibosh on it.

ChaToilLeam · 24/05/2023 23:01

Stick to your guns.
Ask your neighbours (and say why)
Reevaluate your relationship with your arse of a DH.

Schoolchoicesucks · 24/05/2023 23:00

PineapplePrincess · 24/05/2023 22:22

Thank you for the replies, makes me feel better that I’m not out on a limb here.

I have suggested neighbour takes DS (along with her DS who is in the same year; both boys do get along well) and I’m pretty sure she would happily do so - she’s offered in the past. But DH doesn’t want to hear any of it. He stating it’s our responsibility to look after DS, not to palm him off on others when we have something better to do.

I don’t have any family to ask. And DH’s family are too far away to help out on this occasion (not that he’d ask them either - doesn’t like to be indebted to people!)

Well I thought he was an arse before but this confirms it.
Yes it is his responsibility to look after DS but he's not willing to put himself out to do that. Looking after doesn't just mean feeding, bathing and putting to bed, it means facilitating important (to DS) activities. He won't do it, you are busy with work so have offered to facilitate (via the neighbour). He doesn't get to say no to the arrangement. He is meant to be an equal parent to you - not a parent who gets to overrule arrangements you have made in DS best interests.
Stay firm OP. Has anyone suggested he is being reasonable here?

Clymene · 24/05/2023 23:00

He is deliberately hurting your son to punish you what an utter utter cunt

Nily4567 · 24/05/2023 22:59

PineapplePrincess · 24/05/2023 21:44

Sanity check please…

I have an overnighter for work. Select management community, first time I’ve qualified to attend despite a long history working for the company. Evening dinner (finishes by 10pm) followed by all day workshops. Starts the next day at 8:30am. Even if I didn’t do the overnighter there is no way I would get to the venue for an 8am start with childcare, traffic, etc.

I’ve chosen to stay over. Something DH was not exactly pleased about at the time, but he’s entirely capable of looking after our two DS. (Last work overnighter was 2-3years ago, for context.)

Overnighter coincides with oldest DS(9) disco. Something I wasn’t aware of at the point I agreed to go. DH is now refusing to take DS to disco, which DS is distraught about.

It would be awkward with school finishing (DS walks home at 3pm) nursery pick-up (latest 6pm), dinner, disco drop off (7pm), disco pick up (8pm) and bed downs. But it’s not impossible. I’ve suggest options to make things work - e.g. order pizza for dinner, skip the evening baths, let the boys stay up a bit later, ask neighbour (who’s son is also attending) to pick DS up at end of disco. The school and nursery are literally next door to our house, so it’s not a huge trek just cumbersome.

But he’s refusing to consider any options which could make the disco work. And it’s my fault DS can’t go.

I’m feeling so guilty and kinda wish I could cancel, but now worry it’s too late as company would be charged hotels costs and my last minute withdrawal would likely be ‘noted’.

DH is making it sound like off for a fun night on the town with my friends, abandoning him and kids - when actually I’m dreading the whole thing. I’m not familiar/ friendly with most people who are attending - I feel a bit obliged to go but also recognise (through recent work coaching) I need to push out of my introverted ways and expand my network. I’m hoping doing so will help me make my day job easier, which is not easy currently and quite demanding.

I just feel horrid, but I’m pushing ahead and going despite really wishing I wasn’t.

AIBU?

That sounds pretty controlling, hope you are ok.

Does he feel out of his depth with the kids? A lot of dads do and don’t admit it - not excusing him putting it on you though

snakewhite · 24/05/2023 22:58

Wow, I never say this but would really be thinking hard about continuing this relationship. It's not even the ridiculous sulkiness of having a tantrum because you're going away for the night, it's not even that he's prepared to hurt his own child to hurt you (though tbf that really is enough!) it's the absolute lack of regard or respect he clearly has for you and your career. Nasty little man.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 24/05/2023 22:57

TheaBrandt · 24/05/2023 22:30

i would like calmly tell him that you are asking the neighbour and yes you will be telling the neighbour why he is not doing it. He won’t like that one little bit. This behaviour needs sunlight on it.

I agree this is perfectly put. Sunlight on it. Exactly.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 24/05/2023 22:55

That’s horribly cruel of him. I don’t know how any parent could treat their child in such a way.

Of course too must go to the work trip, but your child should also be able to go to the disco.

Could your neighbour collect him straight from school and even have him the whole time so that your nasty DH doesn’t get a say? I’d be thinking of LTB after something like this.

jackstini · 24/05/2023 22:54

I would turn it back on him

Yes it is OUR job to parent
But being as YOU selfishly will not do it, I will parent by organising something that makes sure OUR son does not miss out on something because his Dad is being selfish, spiteful and mean

What an absolute dickhead. Am not sure I could get past this level of twattishness

Netaporter · 24/05/2023 22:53

Jesus, we once didn’t go on holiday on a certain day because it was DD’s first school disco. Can you arrange a sleepover with a friend of your sons so it is out if his hands? Absolutely don’t back out of your work event. I’d be insisting on going to relationship counselling after this is done to see if you can get past this. Is he always controlling or is this something new?

PurelyBelter · 24/05/2023 22:52

MrsRickAstley · 24/05/2023 21:46

He's a massive KNOB !!! That's my two pennies.

Do not back down. He won't not take DC.

Honestly, men like this would deliberately upset their own child to make a point. I wouldn’t hedge any bets he would just take him.

PurelyBelter · 24/05/2023 22:51

God this is the most repulsive and nasty thing I’ve read. What a complete and utter arse. He is using your son to punish you for daring to advance your career. He is using your so to punish you because he is a fragile little boy who is scared of his wife having a more important job than him. This is nothing to do with bedtimes or his ability to parent.

As PPs said, neighbour and tell them why. And then make plans to leave. What a fucking arsehole.

Mumsnut · 24/05/2023 22:46

Please show him this thread.

MimiSunshine · 24/05/2023 22:46

TheaBrandt · 24/05/2023 22:30

i would like calmly tell him that you are asking the neighbour and yes you will be telling the neighbour why he is not doing it. He won’t like that one little bit. This behaviour needs sunlight on it.

Was just about to say the exact same thing.

You will go to the work event. Your son will go to the disco and if necessary people will know that your husband is a twat.

InWalksBarberalla · 24/05/2023 22:43

I couldn't stay with someone who deliberately hurts his son to punish his wife.