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Well done, Eamonn!

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Abitofquietinthemorningplease · 22/05/2023 09:20

He’s had a lot to say this morning, probably things, he, and many others, have wanted to say for a long time, very interesting. He and Ruth seem to be v well
liked and respected in the industry and are good, decent people.
It seems karma is working it’s magic, which is so rare with workplace bullies and arseholes, I’m so here for it. May the decent people prevail!

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Iwasafool · 25/05/2023 10:31

xoomer · 25/05/2023 07:06

Lots of people in the industry are supporting EM. He socialises with them lots. Just Google photos of him. When do you ever see PS doing the same?

RL wouldn't put up with him if he's as bad as some of you make out.

Wow so if you don't socialise with people from work it proves what exactly?

Iwasafool · 25/05/2023 10:30

Inawoodtherelived · 25/05/2023 00:05

Well why disingenuously ask about his upbringing if you already know all about it?

I know he's a Catholic from Northern Ireland, my background also. Funnily enough nothing in my or my male siblings upbringing made us misogynists so I wondered what particular part of his upbringing was responsible for his attitude. You quoted about his upbringing being responsible so I assumed you had some specific knowledge but obviously you don't.

Abitofquietinthemorningplease · 25/05/2023 08:45

@xoomer Exactly, I really like him and they seem v well liked

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xoomer · 25/05/2023 07:06

Lots of people in the industry are supporting EM. He socialises with them lots. Just Google photos of him. When do you ever see PS doing the same?

RL wouldn't put up with him if he's as bad as some of you make out.

Inawoodtherelived · 25/05/2023 00:05

Iwasafool · 24/05/2023 11:05

He has been involved in controversies but why blame his upbringing? He's had far more years as an adult than a child, if and it's a big if, his upbringing taught him to be a misogynist then he needs to educate himself. I'm older than him and I know plenty of men his age and older who don't share his views so to me saying it is because he's a white man of a certain age is a cop out.

He managed to get over his Catholic upbringing when it suited him to get a divorce so no reason why he should be making racist/sexist remarks.

Well why disingenuously ask about his upbringing if you already know all about it?

Iwasafool · 24/05/2023 11:05

Inawoodtherelived · 24/05/2023 10:07

I just meant that he’s a white middle aged man of a certain age … nothing more than that … and if you look at his Wikipedia page there’s a heading titled “controversies” of which he has (allegedly) been involved in quite a few.

He has been involved in controversies but why blame his upbringing? He's had far more years as an adult than a child, if and it's a big if, his upbringing taught him to be a misogynist then he needs to educate himself. I'm older than him and I know plenty of men his age and older who don't share his views so to me saying it is because he's a white man of a certain age is a cop out.

He managed to get over his Catholic upbringing when it suited him to get a divorce so no reason why he should be making racist/sexist remarks.

Inawoodtherelived · 24/05/2023 10:07

Iwasafool · 24/05/2023 08:58

Can you tell us something about his upbringing, I don't know anything about it so don't know how it has made him misogynistic.

I just meant that he’s a white middle aged man of a certain age … nothing more than that … and if you look at his Wikipedia page there’s a heading titled “controversies” of which he has (allegedly) been involved in quite a few.

Iwasafool · 24/05/2023 08:58

Inawoodtherelived · 23/05/2023 23:37

Eamonn is a product of his upbringing and he can come across as misogynistic at times. Funnily enough, I don’t think he’s pompous. If you watch that clip for example, he acknowledges how unimportant morning tv is in the scheme of things as most people are out when it’s on.

Can you tell us something about his upbringing, I don't know anything about it so don't know how it has made him misogynistic.

CabbagePatchDole · 24/05/2023 03:18

MissyB1 · 22/05/2023 11:42

Yes yes! I would happily watch them together!

That would be amazing. I might start watching if that happened. You should be producing the show.

Inawoodtherelived · 23/05/2023 23:37

Eamonn is a product of his upbringing and he can come across as misogynistic at times. Funnily enough, I don’t think he’s pompous. If you watch that clip for example, he acknowledges how unimportant morning tv is in the scheme of things as most people are out when it’s on.

PerfectYear321 · 23/05/2023 23:14

Can't stand Eammon. Pompous fool

Looks really weird these days too

Stabee · 23/05/2023 23:09

tigger1001 · 23/05/2023 07:28

Yep, this! Can't stand the man.

Yes. Having seen clips of him when he wasn't presenting, thought him dreadful. I can only think the op is Eamonn himself. I find him so arrogant and don't enjoy watching him at all.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 23/05/2023 22:59

tothelefttotheleft · 23/05/2023 13:23

@Treesandsheepeverywhere

What did holly do to ferne cotton?

They made a pact to leave together after a certain number of years. Can't remember if it was 10 years but basically agreed to leave on a high at the same time.
Then when the time came, Holly changed her mind.

She's obviously entitled to, same as she was entitled to change her mind with Peter Jones too but seems to be a pattern.

Inawoodtherelived · 23/05/2023 18:17

BonnieBobbin · 23/05/2023 16:45

Yy certain posters are determined for PS getting sacked to be about anybody but PS. They're probably hoping to distract from HW too.

HW certainly has powerful PR behind her (allegedly) 😃

BonnieBobbin · 23/05/2023 16:45

Yy certain posters are determined for PS getting sacked to be about anybody but PS. They're probably hoping to distract from HW too.

JenniferBooth · 23/05/2023 14:51

Whats with all the gaslighting. People DID speak out ages ago Eamon and Ruth Rylan and Amanda Holden.

Inawoodtherelived · 23/05/2023 14:47

tothelefttotheleft · 23/05/2023 13:25

How do you know Ruth put a complaint in?

Just Google it! It’s been reported that Ruth Langford allegedly logged an official complaint against PS to Emma Gormley (head of ITV light entertainment) in a multitude of newspapers including The Sun, The Express, The DM, the Evening Standard, the Scottish Sun, and many more.

tothelefttotheleft · 23/05/2023 13:25

Abitofquietinthemorningplease · 22/05/2023 10:41

I think If id been in his situation, I’d be exactly the same, P.S’s treatment of staff and other presenters and this young boy, Holly going along with it all. Ruth being decent and putting a complaint in and then later, losing her presenting role. Rylan leaving due to the way they were, well P.S at least. Not to mention lovely Fern Britton and Amanda Holden (I’m not really a fan, but still unfair behaviour) We’ve surely all been in workplaces where arseholes wield power like this, I would revel in the downfall too, it’s a good day for karma working it’s magic.
There is something v odd in that P.S is being protected by itv and it needs to be investigated further

How do you know Ruth put a complaint in?

tothelefttotheleft · 23/05/2023 13:23

@Treesandsheepeverywhere

What did holly do to ferne cotton?

BonnieBobbin · 23/05/2023 11:41

I feel like the cute doctor. Obviously some posters have very different values which mean they'd rather defend someone who didn't tell the authorities about abuse.

Fwiw going to the public with stories about bad behaviour of a company and/or colleague is whistleblowing.

But really it feels like a lot of deliberate whataboutery - try to divert the thread to moan about EH then no-one will mention that PS' brother was convicted of being a paedophile; that a young runner was moved from This Morning around the time PS 'came out'; that numerous presenters and guests have complained about the culture at This Morning. People finally being held vaguely accountable isn't a tragedy. The problem is it shouldn't have taken so long.And that this should be the beginning of changes, not the end of it.

Inawoodtherelived · 23/05/2023 10:20

Cantstaystuckforever · 23/05/2023 09:05

Eamonn Holmes isn't a whistleblower though, is he? Just joining a pile on. Phillip Schofield is grim, doesn't make it appealing to watch someone rich and famous using their platform to celebrate the downfall of someone who got in their way.

I think Ruth submitted an official complaint about PS after he cut her off on air, but of course we don’t know what else she complained about, if anything.

And Eamonn referred yesterday to the alleged culture of fear and implied that it allegedly extended to the top management - so it obviously was not easy to whistle blow - that’s what lies at the heart of this current story surely?

Blueuggboots · 23/05/2023 09:53

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Iwasafool · 23/05/2023 09:43

Cantstaystuckforever · 23/05/2023 09:05

Eamonn Holmes isn't a whistleblower though, is he? Just joining a pile on. Phillip Schofield is grim, doesn't make it appealing to watch someone rich and famous using their platform to celebrate the downfall of someone who got in their way.

You summed it up well.

Cantstaystuckforever · 23/05/2023 09:05

BonnieBobbin · 23/05/2023 07:59

I don't like a culture that implies whistleblowers can only speak out if they are above reproach. That sort of purity spiral means no-one and no company can ever be called out.No-one is saying EH is perfect. He very obviously isn't. But it's a fact that he has spoken out about PS and the culture enabled around him for years. So did Ruth, Amanda Holden, etc.

Apparently other presenters were becoming vocal after PS' brother's court case too eg the cute doctor - who apparently said in an interview that he was starting to think ITV didn't match his values.

Even if we just go by verified facts in the public domain - PS knew what his brother had done because he confessed to him and PS did nothing about it. So spare me the crying about poor PS and the witch-hunt.

Eamonn Holmes isn't a whistleblower though, is he? Just joining a pile on. Phillip Schofield is grim, doesn't make it appealing to watch someone rich and famous using their platform to celebrate the downfall of someone who got in their way.

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