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Harry & Megan AIBU?

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Mykidslovebluey · 17/05/2023 18:14

’Multiple near collisions’ ‘Could have been fatal’… Yeah but it wasn’t thought was it?! Surely there’s more important news stories to take up all the news channels with! Right?

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pilates · 19/05/2023 11:56

@CalmYourThunder just interesting to hear from an American perspective

CalmYourThunder · 19/05/2023 11:51

@pilates I’m American, originally from Illinois but lived in New York for a few years. Currently live in England. Why?

Cowparslee · 19/05/2023 11:29

I think it interesting that Omid Scobie in the NewsNight interview focused on the shock and disappointment that the RF had not been in touch with H&M since the incident. He seems to have had this conversation with H&M.

Not that surprising. Their link to the RF is their only selling point, they need to reiterate it constantly. No-one is interested in Meghan giving waffly speeches and receiving dubious 'awards'

pilates · 19/05/2023 11:28

Who was their intended audience with the announcement from their spokesperson?
^
Possibly the Home Office in UK to support their case for personal protection?

GloriousD · 19/05/2023 11:25

I think it interesting that Omid Scobie in the NewsNight interview focused on the shock and disappointment that the RF had not been in touch with H&M since the incident. He seems to have had this conversation with H&M.

TrashyPanda · 19/05/2023 11:23

I don’t doubt there were a number of paps.

but driving round in circles instead of going to the destination was a stupid thing to do. It left them vulnerable and exposed. And it was inevitable more paps would join in the longer they were driving around.

Their security is crap and I hope they get someone more competent.

GloriousD · 19/05/2023 11:20

Who was their intended audience with the announcement from their spokesperson?

And what did they want them to do, think or feel?

If it was inadequate law enforcement would this line of communication not already be in place due to the incident?

So who else did they need to hear this story?

pilates · 19/05/2023 11:20

@CalmYourThunder do you live in America?

CalmYourThunder · 19/05/2023 11:10

@TrashyPanda There was a woman, who apparently worked at the venue where the awards were held, who said lots of paparazzi followed them as they left their venue in the original car. The photos must be in demand. 🤷‍♀️

TrashyPanda · 19/05/2023 11:00

@CalmYourThunder - maybe that’s because of their elaborate manoeuvres, instead of just going to their destination? The longer they were driving aro7nd in circles, the more paps appeared.

CalmYourThunder · 19/05/2023 10:57

@pilates They do. The paparazzi are are awful over there. But like the taxi driver said, he’s never seen others get as much attention or the paparazzi be as crazy to get photos.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/05/2023 10:50

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 19/05/2023 10:22

To be fair, exaggerated or not, why do the paps want a photo of them in a car? So boring! Why chase people for that? Ridiculous.

I agree Lois, though nobody's yet offered any thoughts as to why previous NY visits haven't resulted in a "near catastrophe" yet this one allegedly has - hence perhaps the widespread views that the timing's no coincidence in light of the current court case

Yet another remarkable coincidence is that there should be a "stalker/prowler" arrested in Montecito within hours of the NY thing, except it's being claimed locally (how truthfully I don't know) that Kevin Valdovinos was working there rather than prowling and that the whole thing's a set-up

As ever, it's probably best to keep an open mind until there's proof of anything one way or another

pilates · 19/05/2023 10:49

Why don’t famous people who visit New York have the same problem when attending events. You never hear about it. Or perhaps they do? Perhaps someone more knowledgeable could enlighten?

GoodChat · 19/05/2023 10:48

They'll probably just sack their PR guy and say he made it up

Peverellshire · 19/05/2023 10:46

I am struggling to understand why all 3 would cram into the back seat of a NYC, unvetted cab & become potentially sitting ducks due to the clear windows (?)

I believe at request of NY police but Meghan appeared v relaxed about it all? Although, hard to know of course. It will be interesting to see how it all unravels in next few days.

Mackerson · 19/05/2023 10:39

ImPrawnCrackers · 19/05/2023 10:34

And that's why the royals have the 'never complain, never explain' mantra. Harry should have heeded that advice.

But why would you heed someone else's advice when you think you're never wrong?

Mackerson · 19/05/2023 10:37

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 19/05/2023 10:22

To be fair, exaggerated or not, why do the paps want a photo of them in a car? So boring! Why chase people for that? Ridiculous.

I agree. They're just sat in a car. What's the point of it? Maybe they hope to get a picture of them picking their nose or something?

ImPrawnCrackers · 19/05/2023 10:34

ThePoshUns · 19/05/2023 06:48

They created this hysteria.
If they had got to the venue on time and entered and left by the front, photographers could have had their photos, they could have got in their car and left.
By ' sneaking' in and out of the back ( in full sight) they made a whole other drama.
If they are attending events to accept awards then they should accept photographers will be there.
If they don't want to be photographed don't go!
I do think they want to be photographed though, certainly Meghan does.

Exactly

ImPrawnCrackers · 19/05/2023 10:34

Mackerson · 18/05/2023 20:45

I think the idea that unless you are silent you are an arsehole is tiresome in the extreme.

Maybe. But being silent can hide what an arsehole you are.

And that's why the royals have the 'never complain, never explain' mantra. Harry should have heeded that advice.

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 19/05/2023 10:22

To be fair, exaggerated or not, why do the paps want a photo of them in a car? So boring! Why chase people for that? Ridiculous.

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/05/2023 10:15

Yes, YABU.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/05/2023 10:14

They created this drama and I’m not sure why

A common view is that they hope to influence the current case about H&M's security - a shame if so, because the real impression that seems to have been left is that they'll exaggerate to get what they want

From past form it wouldn't be the first time, but it's hard to see how damaging their own credibility yet further nis going to help anyone

Gilmorehill · 19/05/2023 09:44

They created this drama and I’m not sure why. Almost no one believes them. It smacks of desperation. I just wonder where are they heading in life. I do feel H is in a fragile mental state. He did not look good in that taxi while M was beaming away.

ThePoshUns · 19/05/2023 06:48

They created this hysteria.
If they had got to the venue on time and entered and left by the front, photographers could have had their photos, they could have got in their car and left.
By ' sneaking' in and out of the back ( in full sight) they made a whole other drama.
If they are attending events to accept awards then they should accept photographers will be there.
If they don't want to be photographed don't go!
I do think they want to be photographed though, certainly Meghan does.

TrashyPanda · 19/05/2023 06:30

It’s comedy gold.

almost as if they were wanting Southpark to make a second episode.