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Anyone here with mild, well-managed ME/CFS?

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Psm92 · 15/05/2023 17:54

Just that really.

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riotlady · 18/05/2023 18:57

Psm92 · 18/05/2023 18:28

@riotlady so glad to hear you are doing much better these days. Can I ask how long it took you to get to this place (guessing it was years)?

Thanks :) it’s been about 3 years since I first got ill and I was pretty much housebound for the first 18 months-2 years

Psm92 · 18/05/2023 18:28

@riotlady so glad to hear you are doing much better these days. Can I ask how long it took you to get to this place (guessing it was years)?

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HermioneWeasley · 17/05/2023 20:05

@Psm92 yes, exercise is a vital part of my management. There have been times when I couldn’t have done it, but as part of my ongoing management it’s really important. I hate it though

upandoutofbed · 17/05/2023 18:25

I have/had Long Covid/ME-CFS and was bed bound for 6 months then house bound for a further 6 months. More than 3 years later I consider myself in a good place - I work part time (as I did before I got ill), have family responsibilities and have tentatively started C25K. I'm not exactly high energy but doing okay and continuing to build on more I can do.

Please please do not give up hope - think this is so important for recovery. The official statistics are a bit gloomy but there are plenty of word of mouth success stories out there. I also recommend Suzy Bolt - she has a great FB group, loads of valuable info, and also have a look at Raelan Aigle's YouTube channel.

@Crayfishforyou I remember you from the LC thread - good to hear you're doing okay but sorry about your flare up- hope it passes soon.

riotlady · 17/05/2023 16:54

Yes, I was “moderate” (it didn’t feel moderate!) when I was diagnosed but am minimally affected these days- work 28 hours, parent, manage trips out and walking, can’t push it too far though. I don’t have a lot of advice, I rested a lot, did very very gentle CFS focused yoga, and very slowly built up my walking. It’s a horrible horrible illness

Psm92 · 17/05/2023 16:46

@HermioneWeasley Exercising? For CFS? Really? Do you get PEM?

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Psm92 · 17/05/2023 16:43

Thanks all! Good to know that it can improve.

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Farmgirl12 · 16/05/2023 13:54

@Psm92 i drink about 3 litres a day and that’s without a couple of cups of green/herbal tea. So I think that’s probably enough. I’d never be away from the toilet 😂

Psm92 · 16/05/2023 09:17

@Farmgirl12 for POTS, you have to drink extra water and have extra salt. You can get electrolyte tablets and dissolve them in water. I try to drink 2 litres a day and it does help. Its not about "improving on" it, it's actually a treatment for POTS.

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Farmgirl12 · 16/05/2023 07:17

@LizzyLovesTea omg thank you so much for all this advice. I feel like im living in a black hole at the minute. I’ve never really bothered with depression or anxiety but I’m so down at the minute.

my salt intake and water intake has always been ok so that’s not something that I can improve on.

but will have a look the other things and get in touch with Emily. And ring my gp.

It’s the hidden illness that no one else can see, that gets me down. I feel like no one understands. It’s like they just think
im lazy or a slob x

LizzyLovesTea · 16/05/2023 07:06

Also, just to mention that Suzy Bolt’s Rest, Repair, Recover programme has been great - it’s a really gentle yoga, relaxation and rehab programme with zoom classes and catch up videos. Her RRR classes are basically designed around the exercises that help POTS and suitable for CFS. Not too expensive either!!

LizzyLovesTea · 16/05/2023 07:04

I’m so sorry. It’s an awful illness and so hard to cope sometimes, especially when you are stuck on a waiting list.
my GP wrote me a referral letter, then his secretary rang me up and talked me through booking the right kind of appointment on his website. It’s important to book the kind where he can write a prescription- he also does some advice only appointments. If you contact the York Cardiology phone number you can probably get advice.
When he recommended meds for me to take, my Gp prescribed them for me which means I don’t have to pay for them privately, which is a big saving! But not all GPS will be happy with that.
One thing to consider is that of all the drugs that can help POTS, one is Beta blockers which GPs quite frequently prescribe for all sorts of things. So while the other drug options can only be prescribed by a specialist, if you don’t have a reason to avoid beta blockers, you might be able to get started with them.
I found that salt (only for some types of Pots!!), water, rest, pacing and ccl2 compression tights plus an abdominal binder make a big difference to my symptoms. Avoiding sugar helps me too, and after a big meal I usually feel worse but I don’t worry about it too much as I know it will get better!
I’ve also been getting help from this lovely exercise physiologist Emily. She offers a free advice session so it could be worth booking one in… she has Pots herself and is really expert at non drug ways to manage it.
https://www.exphysem.com/home

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Farmgirl12 · 16/05/2023 06:42

@LizzyLovesTea yeah I’ve been doing some research about going private and dr Gupta name came up.

when getting the ball rolling to go private where did you start? Did you have to go through gp/hospital or just ring Dr gupta office??

sorry if I sound stupid, just never had to sort anything like this.

and I definitely can’t wait another year, I’ve had such a bad flare up this week. I actually told my husband I’d rather be dead then live like this anymore 😭

Crikeyalmighty · 15/05/2023 22:00

@LizzyLovesTea I love his YouTube videos- what a lovely genuine patient centre manner he has- very easy on the eye too !

LeMoo · 15/05/2023 21:49

@Maraudingmarauders I'm so pleased for you - I'd love so much to get to that point!

Maraudingmarauders · 15/05/2023 21:45

Yep. Suffered since I was 15, had a real low patch during and after my MSc. Was on gabapentin for 8 years.
Now I work full time, swim a few times a week and can socialise at the weekend (I'm 33!) And I'm off all medication.
It's been a tough old ride and I'm constantly checking in on myself. I know my limits and I nap regularly. Weekends are a mix of activity and afternoon naps. I can't run, or cycle or anything too hard on my joints but swimming I find soothing.
I have patches where I struggle, and I find 2-4pm at work the hardest. I still suffer with painful muscle spasms but I'm happier now I'm off medication though it was essential at the time to get me through.

LeMoo · 15/05/2023 21:45

I seem to have lucked out with the NHS. I already suspected ME, but my gp raised it independently and referred me to a specialist ME CFS clinic for diagnosis. Only issue I've had is the wait times which have still been pretty good for the current state of the NHS (about 6m from referral to appt).

I start a programme of management sessions with the clinic in a few weeks and in the meantime have been trying to adapt as much as possible. I do my best at pacing but every time I think I've got the hang of it a crash appears.

For me, the main symptoms are fatigue (especially PEM) and muscular pain/stiffness - although I'm sure half of that is down to inactivity. Phyiscal weakness...When I crash those symptoms are exacerbated...Some days I can barely wobble to the bathroom. I've developed sensory issues when I'm tired, too. Concentration is shot a lot of the time.

I nap a lot, trying to get my naps down from 2.5 hours. And when I'm feeling better I try to incorporate a couple of gentle walks into the week. My life has become so small and slow, I used to do so much.

Would love to date but I don't find myself much of a prospect these days 😕

HecticHedgehog · 15/05/2023 21:18

Sorry that should say ME/Gilbert's crash

HecticHedgehog · 15/05/2023 21:18

Run4it2 · 15/05/2023 20:53

I had CFS many years ago - it gradually improved but I also have Gilbert's syndrome which also causes extreme tiredness. I try and avoid late nights and getting overtired - I'm on iron and b12 tablets permanently as I don't absorb either properly. The Gilbert's syndrome society recommended taking ashwagandha and rhodolia supplements and they've been really helpful - they seem to prevent me from having the major Gilbert's crashes which I used to get for no particular reason - it means I can now exercise regularly which is really helpful - sometimes a run would wipe me out for weeks on end previously

How do you know what is an me/CFS crash? My adult child also has me/CFS and Gilbert's syndrome. Both were diagnoses at the same time but we were basically told not to,worry about the Gilbert's syndrome as most people only find out they have it by accident :/

vicaragechristmas · 15/05/2023 21:10

Yes, kind of - I work, parent and just about have hobbies (the more social ones lose out to the fatigue more often than not). Since I got covid I’ve had more symptoms though.

Crayfishforyou · 15/05/2023 21:02

I have had long covid/cf for 3 years now. It is generally something i have to bear in mind, but generally it doesn’t bother me day to day.
I am having a flare up at the moment. I feel all swollen inside, my armpits ache, i have tinnitus and feel very dizzy. I also get horrid chest pins.
As long as i do nothing for a few days it will pass. In the beginning i didnt feel it would ever end. But i know it will now.
Stress often causes flare ups.

LizzyLovesTea · 15/05/2023 20:59

Farmgirl12 · 15/05/2023 19:27

Following to hopefully get some advice.

newly diagnosed with poTs and me/cfs.

currently waiting for a referral to a poTs specialist. Rang them today to see if they had received my referral to be told the waiting list is 1 year!! Think I’m going to go private. As I can’t carry on like this for another year x

I have pots too. Highly recommend Dr Gupta in York if you want to go private - York Cardiology. I would have waited more than a year on NHS but going private meant it could get started on some really helpful meds. Best £200 I ever spent! I assume you’ve discovered that the PotsUK website and compression tights?? There are some great Pots specific Facebook groups too which are really helpful.
Hope you get some treatment and improvement soon!

HermioneWeasley · 15/05/2023 20:54

@Psm92 I’m sorry to hear you’re having a hard time. Being strict about getting enough sleep is absolutely essential for me and I find acupuncture helps. Exercising is also important and I have a completely unvalidated theory that building muscle helps with energy.

Run4it2 · 15/05/2023 20:53

I had CFS many years ago - it gradually improved but I also have Gilbert's syndrome which also causes extreme tiredness. I try and avoid late nights and getting overtired - I'm on iron and b12 tablets permanently as I don't absorb either properly. The Gilbert's syndrome society recommended taking ashwagandha and rhodolia supplements and they've been really helpful - they seem to prevent me from having the major Gilbert's crashes which I used to get for no particular reason - it means I can now exercise regularly which is really helpful - sometimes a run would wipe me out for weeks on end previously

Psm92 · 15/05/2023 20:49

@HermioneWeasley not sure really. Just so depressed at having to ensure this and maybe wanting to hope it does get better for some people, even if fully recovery is unlikely.

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