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About smoking?

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chaosmaker · 13/05/2023 13:10

Weed smokers have moved in next door. The stench is incredible and as an ex-smoker, I'm not keen on fags either which many of the people in my street constantly puff away on.

When I did smoke, I tried to be considerate and not do it much in public just indoors or around other smokers.

Shouldn't people have a right to clean air as smoking actively damages the lungs of people that don't? Is it a form of ABH?

Obviously the government have a vested interest in keeping the sales of tobacco, vapes (no one knows what damage the chemicals in these do) and anything else the tobacco industry sells as they make huge revenue out of it.

Is there a case to ban it in public places as more enlightened countries have done?

YABU - the 'rights' of smokers trump the need for non smokers to breathe less polluted air.
Or
YANBU - nobody has the right to actually harm your body by smoking around you and making public outdoor space a challenge.

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chaosmaker · 07/10/2023 10:36

Aren't vapes adding to that?

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Poppysmom22 · 06/10/2023 06:19

After reading an article about microplastics yesterday I can't get het up about smoking outdoors - we (as in humanity) have much bigger problems than a bit of fag smoke wafting at us.

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chaosmaker · 06/10/2023 02:30

Fine by me. The thing is, you don't miss what you don't know so all the people going on about how they enjoy it and don't care about the impact it has, wouldn't be up in arms if they'd never started so the obvious solution is not to sell it.

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AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 05/10/2023 18:00

chaosmaker · 05/10/2023 09:59

Sunak on about banning tobacco. It's a vote winner in his brain but the way it's being talked about is much too slow. It needs to be banned full stop. People are talking about it being a class thing (working class, must smoke)....

I'll be all up for it as soon as alcohol is banned.

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chaosmaker · 05/10/2023 09:59

Sunak on about banning tobacco. It's a vote winner in his brain but the way it's being talked about is much too slow. It needs to be banned full stop. People are talking about it being a class thing (working class, must smoke)....

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chaosmaker · 19/05/2023 19:42

Antisocialfluffmonster · 16/05/2023 13:53

@chaosmaker 😂 you mean like how you’re trying to force your puritanical believes onto everyone else? Plenty of places perfect for you to keep pearl clutching with strict rules.

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Smoking cessation in all its forms are hardly puritanical beliefs. Obviously.

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Verv · 16/05/2023 14:21

YABU

Smoking indoors is not "considerate" it stinks, and it remains stinking for far longer than smoke dissipating into the open air. Gets into furniture, clings to walls, leaves a film of sticky nicotine on walls and windows in particular. GRIM.

While smoking outside isn't pleasant, it isn't illegal, and smoke tends to dissipate much faster than it would in a confined space.

As for the clean air spiel, if you live in a town or bigger, you havent got it, and it's not because of the smokers.

Antisocialfluffmonster · 16/05/2023 13:53

chaosmaker · 16/05/2023 13:19

so now you want to foist religion on me????

@chaosmaker 😂 you mean like how you’re trying to force your puritanical believes onto everyone else? Plenty of places perfect for you to keep pearl clutching with strict rules.

ICMB · 16/05/2023 13:30

I quite like the smell of cigarettes 😬 the other sort disgusts me and I agree with you on that one.

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chaosmaker · 16/05/2023 13:19

so now you want to foist religion on me????

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Antisocialfluffmonster · 16/05/2023 13:10

chaosmaker · 16/05/2023 11:01

See! you know all the problems too :)

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😂 and I still take decisions that as a grown up balance potential future harm with living life.
you want to live in a bubble go for it. You’ve got zero right to insist or expect others to do the same.

there is absolutely nothing worse than an ex anything attempting to dictate to others what they can and can’t do. You may as well just join a convent and be done with it.

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chaosmaker · 16/05/2023 11:01

Antisocialfluffmonster · 13/05/2023 23:21

Oh you are a joy.

you know there are locations in the world with these kinds of strict rules that would see to suit you better?

medical cannabis based medications have been a flop, as strangely enough removing the stuff politicians are scared of stops it working. The full spectrum oil, vape or smoke works better for many people.

lets also get rid of carcinogenic scented candles too, oh and what about stopping people from bbqing as well. oh and love island as it rots brains,

or you could do this novel thing like just concentrate on your own life and let other people concentrate on theirs

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See! you know all the problems too :)

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iklboo · 14/05/2023 16:08

@Antisocialfluffmonster - I'm totally with you on banning Love Island.

Antisocialfluffmonster · 13/05/2023 23:21

chaosmaker · 13/05/2023 18:16

Yup, I'd get rid of alcohol too. I'm not special and when I was a smoker I did think about others. Didn't like smoking around non smokers or outside really.

Surely medical cannabis should be the versions that don't need inhaling? Or just prescribe the cannabidinoids as the THC does nothing to help.

Oh you are a joy.

you know there are locations in the world with these kinds of strict rules that would see to suit you better?

medical cannabis based medications have been a flop, as strangely enough removing the stuff politicians are scared of stops it working. The full spectrum oil, vape or smoke works better for many people.

lets also get rid of carcinogenic scented candles too, oh and what about stopping people from bbqing as well. oh and love island as it rots brains,

or you could do this novel thing like just concentrate on your own life and let other people concentrate on theirs

TunnocksOrDeath · 13/05/2023 22:48

Our neighbours smoke weed outside the block so as not to stink out their own flats. It blows straight through the trickle vents and windows and into our home, where our four year old lives and sleeps (we're on the ground floor). It's just bloody rude.

OMalleysAlley · 13/05/2023 22:46

chaosmaker · 13/05/2023 18:00

I honestly don’t understand why people get so concerned about how others spend their time and money.

Um because it affects them or those they love, obviously.

But you used to do exactly this.

Emmamoo89 · 13/05/2023 22:45

vodkaredbullgirl · 13/05/2023 22:38

OP I think you need to start smoking again, as it clearly leaving you a bit unhinged.

🤣🤣

vodkaredbullgirl · 13/05/2023 22:38

OP I think you need to start smoking again, as it clearly leaving you a bit unhinged.

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chaosmaker · 13/05/2023 22:36

I also dislike very strong perfume/deodorant that catches in the back of your throat on other people. Lynx is the worst along with all aerosol ones. Roll ons are a lot calmer. Just cause you asked @limitedperiodonly

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chaosmaker · 13/05/2023 22:34

limitedperiodonly · 13/05/2023 21:56

Yup, I'd get rid of alcohol too. I'm not special and when I was a smoker I did think about others. Didn't like smoking around non smokers or outside really.

@chaosmaker But you still did it, because you felt like it. And now you don't. Lucky us.

What's your objection to alcohol? Is there anything else you plan to give up that we should know about?

Alcohol in the uk was for purifying water - small beer. Now we don't need it. Interesting to think of the world if we had never made all this stuff or kept it going long after we no longer needed it.
Alcohol causes as much harm as smoking - just usually not to other people. Unless you happen to be the victim of a violent drunk.

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limitedperiodonly · 13/05/2023 21:56

Yup, I'd get rid of alcohol too. I'm not special and when I was a smoker I did think about others. Didn't like smoking around non smokers or outside really.

@chaosmaker But you still did it, because you felt like it. And now you don't. Lucky us.

What's your objection to alcohol? Is there anything else you plan to give up that we should know about?

vodkaredbullgirl · 13/05/2023 19:26

I find ex smoker's are the worst for complaining about smoking. Weed I would find slightly annoying but that is up to them.

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chaosmaker · 13/05/2023 19:15

LatteOneShotplease · 13/05/2023 18:49

I was thinking about this earlier, and am wondering of there ought to be some device invented that the weed and cigarette smokers and vapers can wear - like a space helmet - that recycles their noxious air, so they don't have to share it with anyone. It wouldn't (if it ever did) look or seem so cool then, if their preferred activity made them look like Jude Law in Contagion.

Hah, have said this to friends a lot. Or make vapes that can't release a stream of whatever that crap inside them is. Then it wouldn't look so 'cool' I mean you'd have thought there would be uproar on this site about how it is marketed to children.

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Nestpasenville · 13/05/2023 18:56

They are bad neighbours but

Nobody has a right to intrude into your space with smoke.

vodkaredbullgirl · 13/05/2023 18:50

LindyLou2020 · 13/05/2023 17:23

Well..............er.........don't read them then? 🤷‍♀️

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Well I can still reply can't I.