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To keep my son off school.

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ThankYouMama · 09/05/2023 06:31

GM.

My partner has been admitted into hospital for treatment for his OCD.

Our 6 year old son is upset and confused, our 17 month old is staying at my partners mother until he has finished his treatment and is feeling better.

Yesterday he behaved pretty badly, and is refusing to go to school today. I really don't want to send him, because I don't know how he is going to behave whilst there, and I will probably be on edge for the whole day

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HopeMumsnet · 10/05/2023 23:25

Hi all,
Given the OP's statements that she no longer intends to post tonight, and the fact that this is still attracting guideline-breaking posts we think it's best if we close this overnight and give everyone some time to reflect on whether they are helping at this stage.

ADogTwoCatsAndAFlan · 10/05/2023 23:09

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RampantIvy · 10/05/2023 22:51

This thread is going round in circles.
OP posts AIBU

Everyone says yes and offers loads of good advice

OP doesn't listen and says everyone is being horrible to her..

The thread isn't doing the OP's anxiety any good. I wonder how long it will stay.

porridgeisbae · 10/05/2023 22:50

@ThankYouMama It sounds like one of many therapists that just tells a client what they want to hear.

Ker-ching.

That is actually quite old fashioned or entry level therapy; most therapists also offer something more directive now, to give a client tools for change.

offyoufuckcuntychops · 10/05/2023 22:46

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BodyKeepingScore · 10/05/2023 22:38

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 16:54

Whilst in therapy today, I told my therapist that I signed up to a site in search of help and advice, I explained that some of the comments were very horrible and some people even said that my children should be taken away and that I'm a bad parent, which I was really upset about.

Her answer to that was that I should have never signed up asking people who don't have the qualifications to give advice, and if they did they would be more understanding and that a lot of people get their glory out of other peoples misery.

I told her everything that has/is happening and she said it's best to keep my youngest child at my mothers house as long as he is comfortable there and will receive love and care and that he will never forgot that I'm his mother, and also that I should focus more on my other child and give him plenty of reassurance.

No decent or qualified therapist would say these things to you… they certainly wouldn’t comment on where your child is best placed. It would open them up to a whole world of trouble if something happened and no therapist I know would even comment on that.

footpedal · 10/05/2023 22:36

Unintentional emotional neglect (due to similar extenuating circumstances) from a parent has ruined my life. I have chronic complex post traumatic stress disorder that's very difficult to live with.

I know you are working on it but please, in your own time consider medicating your anxiety and getting more help. Therapy can't help anxiety at this level until you've calmed it down a bit.

They feel a bit odd to start but you adjust and can drive and function normally. And once they work function even better.

offyoufuckcuntychops · 10/05/2023 22:09

I think you are also thinking that money insulates children from trauma. I know for a fact that it doesn't.

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Hercisback · 10/05/2023 22:00

You need to be interested.

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offyoufuckcuntychops · 10/05/2023 21:29

A bit more brutally: if you carry on in the way you are, and SS become involved, you will be regarded as culpable for failing to protect your children.

offyoufuckcuntychops · 10/05/2023 21:27

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 19:50

There is nothing for my Child's school to notice, he loves going to school, he is a pleasure to teach and is popular amongst his peers (that's what was written in his last report)

Yes there was a minor incident which me and his teacher spoke about, I'm glad she had noticed and brought it to my attention (I expect that from the teachers and staff, after all we pay near to 8k per term for his education and it's their duty to care and nurture him)

OP, you keep mentioning the cost of school fees, but I have paid the sums you mention several times over (more than one DC from 4-18), so that tells you nothing. Regardless of how much you are paying, any decent teacher would notice that a child is struggling with family issues. If you think they haven't noticed, you are deluding yourself. Your older child has seen his younger brother being shipped off to his grandmother. He wishes he were there too. His father, his primary caregiver, is suddenly absent. You are unable to parent him in a stable and reliable manner (he's going to sleep with his iPad, not with bedtime stories and safe routines). This will all come out at school, through his behaviour if not through his words.

My very extensive experience specifically of private schools is that anyone who isn't in a pretty middle of the road 'mould' attracts attention. The 'mould' is middle class/educated and generally reliable/responsible/engaged with their children and the school. The outliers are those who don't conform to this stereotype. I know it sounds snobby, but the outliers stand out to the teachers as well as to the other parents.

Or this is what I am telling myself, because it's a bit of a comfort to think that your 6 yr old will be on the radar of his teachers, when neither of his parents is able to care for him adequately.

Teder · 10/05/2023 21:12

@ThankYouMama engaging in talking therapy is great. It’s a positive step that shows you want to make changes. Your situation is really tough and I honestly believe you need more help than just therapy. This isn’t a criticism of you. This is about your severe anxiety, managing the tricky task of motherhood and your partner’s severe mental illness. That is a HUGE amount to deal with.

I don’t think “just starting medication” is the answer. I think there are many things you can do to slowly make changes and see improvements. This includes having supportive friends and family, considering medication, possible psychiatric appt for yourself,
getting specific child based therapies e.g. play therapy, getting help with childcare (doesn’t have to be a nanny, could be a babysitter or a mothers help). These are all ideas and I’m sure some will be more suitable for you. You may have done some of these or think of more helpful ones.

I am struck by the fact you clearly have access to considerable funds which means you can access resources most people could only dream
of. I hope you use this to your advantage and make life so much happier and healthier for you and your boys. Don’t you think you are all worthy of that? Don’t you think you deserve better? Don’t you think you should be thriving and enjoying life more? Best of luck, seriously. I hope you seek out as much help as possible. Your anxiety is telling you not to but you won’t be judged. Asking for help is extremely brave. I’m glad you posted, I hope you can take something positive away from this.

Pinkflipflop85 · 10/05/2023 21:04

He has a very harmful home life.

The fact that you can't accept that is even more harmful.

Reasonableadjustments · 10/05/2023 21:00

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 20:46

@fitzwilliamdarcy

He doesn't have a chaotic and harmful home life, since when did you know us and live in the same house as us? never!

I'm really sorry but he does have a suboptimal home life.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 10/05/2023 20:57

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 20:46

@fitzwilliamdarcy

He doesn't have a chaotic and harmful home life, since when did you know us and live in the same house as us? never!

He lives with two parents with severe mental health problems who are modelling frightening and confusing behaviour, his baby brother has been removed from the household, his dad has disappeared and his mum is prioritising his dad over him and his sibling. If it isn’t chaotic and harmful then what is it?

TheShellBeach · 10/05/2023 20:53

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 20:46

@fitzwilliamdarcy

He doesn't have a chaotic and harmful home life, since when did you know us and live in the same house as us? never!

To be fair, OP, you've said yourself that your child copies his father's rituals and cleaning routines.

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 20:46

@fitzwilliamdarcy

He doesn't have a chaotic and harmful home life, since when did you know us and live in the same house as us? never!

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RampantIvy · 10/05/2023 20:46

Excellent post @Teder

fitzwilliamdarcy · 10/05/2023 20:34

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 19:50

There is nothing for my Child's school to notice, he loves going to school, he is a pleasure to teach and is popular amongst his peers (that's what was written in his last report)

Yes there was a minor incident which me and his teacher spoke about, I'm glad she had noticed and brought it to my attention (I expect that from the teachers and staff, after all we pay near to 8k per term for his education and it's their duty to care and nurture him)

I wasn’t suggesting anything about your son’s behaviour or progress at school. I was expressing my hope that school notices his chaotic and harmful home life, and takes steps to help him. The other adults in his life are failing him.

I was also expressing how sad and angry I am that my parents managed to cover up, from the school, the chaos and harm I grew up using the veneer of money and class. I was hoping for better for your son than I had.

Onlywords86 · 10/05/2023 20:34

The issue with paid for help as opposed to public help is the paid for variety often caters to what the customer wants to hear and often isn’t as good. Like you op, I live in a nice part of London and have the ability to pay for things in the way you describe, however from experience I can absolutely confirm that this isn’t always the best help.

As many people have said, SS are there to help and are amazing at supporting parents who are finding it difficult to look after their children, exactly like you. You might live near Knightsbridge and take taxis rather than the underground, but that doesn’t mean you’re exempt from the standards of those who don’t have your lifestyle.

People on this particular have been enormously kind (in fact, by Mumsnet standards, it’s one of the kindest threads I’ve read). Try not to see it as horrible and upsetting. Everyone is trying to help.

ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 20:22

ReadersD1gest · 10/05/2023 20:12

No, it's by no means all I have to say... but we won't go there.
It was a simple question, if all is sunshine and rainbows at school, why start a thread asking should you keep him home.

Read my first post, all is explained there.

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ThankYouMama · 10/05/2023 20:18

Teder · 10/05/2023 20:14

You’re not a bad person. You are an unwell person and it is distorting your thinking and how you perceive the world. The result of not fully recognising this and refusing to try and get more help (medication, speaking to the school or Social Services) then you risk a worse outcome which includes harming your children.

I don’t believe you actively wish to harm your children. But if you are able to get MORE help and get your emotional and mental health better, one day you’ll look back and see how damaging this was for your children and for you.

They are young enough to repair the damage and you can turn this around. It’s not easy but it’s possible. I hope you decide to seek all the help out there.

Yes, my anxiety is very bad at times

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