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Bank holiday rage

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Reality · 08/05/2023 08:36

If one more person says to me ‘yeah but you’ll get an extra day off’ about working today I am going to lose my shit.

Family group chat have said it over the weekend (they all have office jobs) and then even my DH has said it this morning!

Yes I’ve worked every day this BH weekend. No that doesn’t mean I’ll get an extra day off for the extra BH. That’s not how it works.

I wasn’t resentful about it but I am starting to be with everyone around me telling me how great it is that we ‘all’ get an extra days holiday. And I think many of them are in for a disappointment when they notice that they haven’t got an extra day either, it’ll just come off their annual leave entitlement.

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Summerlovin121 · 10/05/2023 14:29

Depends on your contract. I get my holiday plus bank holidays so it is an extra day

Beastieboys · 10/05/2023 14:28

Surely if he's SE he can choose to work or not . If I have to work my o/h who is SE carries on with his paid work

PinkCherryBlossoms · 10/05/2023 10:46

Yanbu. It's not a fair system and people can be remarkably ignorant about it. Very annoying.

noodlebugz · 10/05/2023 10:25

Oh yes. Doh!

Dontcallmescarface · 10/05/2023 10:24

Maddy70 · 10/05/2023 09:27

You are entitled to it by law (in leu) if you haven't been then you should be angry at your employer not your friends and family

There is/was no legal entitlement for the extra bank holiday, unless a contract states x days + bH's. It is/was up to individual employers to decide whether to grant it or not. If the contract states 28 days (legal minimum), then regardless of how many BH's there are, that's all you get.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 10/05/2023 10:21

Maddy70 · 10/05/2023 09:27

You are entitled to it by law (in leu) if you haven't been then you should be angry at your employer not your friends and family

No

You are not entitled to it by law, her employers do not need to give her a day off in lieu

Is it any wonder the op is fed up of people telling her she is wrong.

Maddy70 · 10/05/2023 09:27

You are entitled to it by law (in leu) if you haven't been then you should be angry at your employer not your friends and family

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 10/05/2023 09:23

noodlebugz · 10/05/2023 09:16

I’ve just looked it up on .gov website assuming you’re in the UK.
I didn’t realise (and it sucks) your employer can use bank holidays as a part of your statutory leave entitlement. So you should get a lieu day to meet the statutory minimum if that’s all your employer offers but I agree it feels a bit miserable.
I work as a nurse on set days one of which is monday - sick of people asking what I’m doing on the bank holidays! So sending a hug x

She won't get a lieu day because the coronation BH is in addition to the standard 8 BH's.

As long as she gets the statutory minimum, of 28 days leave, everything else is irrelevant.

noodlebugz · 10/05/2023 09:16

I’ve just looked it up on .gov website assuming you’re in the UK.
I didn’t realise (and it sucks) your employer can use bank holidays as a part of your statutory leave entitlement. So you should get a lieu day to meet the statutory minimum if that’s all your employer offers but I agree it feels a bit miserable.
I work as a nurse on set days one of which is monday - sick of people asking what I’m doing on the bank holidays! So sending a hug x

trisfreya · 10/05/2023 08:05

Seabreeze18 · 10/05/2023 06:32

I get your anger! Dh has to work every bh with no extra pay of extra day off, and we never have a family bh together which is depressing. Then I am self employed and my biggest work day is a Monday so not only do a lose loads of £££ for not working those days, I also have a shed load of admin trying to sort people out and change things. I get so annoyed all the people excited about getting a long weekend!

Dh gets the equivalent off, you can't do Mondays anyway, so surely that's better for you than him having to take the Monday

Ineedaholidaynowplease · 10/05/2023 07:58

How many times do people have to explain that OP is correct, and yet people are still saying she us wrong ffs. Read the thread.

It entirely depends on OPS contract but I know many an employer who puts 28 days annual leave in the contract with no mention of bank Holidays for exactly this reason.

If it was written as 20 days plus bank Holidays then yes in years where there is extra they would need to give time off for the extra day.

Another way round it I've seen is 20 days plus 8 bank Holidays and to list the standard 8 BH. Again no need to give time off for the additional as they would be meeting statutory obligation of 5.6 weeks (28 days) annual leave.

Codlingmoths · 10/05/2023 07:43

I’ve never seen a contract saying holidays are x days including bank holidays, it’s always been 25days PLUS bank hols. So this approach is new to me!

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 10/05/2023 07:43

csigeek · 09/05/2023 20:05

That’s actually is how it works though, you should be given an extra day on your entitlement if you normally have bank holidays included. Or a lieu day. Your employer is breaking the law if they don’t.

But OP doesn't normally have bank holidays included, and even if she did, she'd only get an extra day off if her contract said "plus all bank holidays".

If it just says "plus eight bank holidays" then she wouldn't necessarily get the extra one.

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 10/05/2023 07:39

csigeek · 09/05/2023 20:05

That’s actually is how it works though, you should be given an extra day on your entitlement if you normally have bank holidays included. Or a lieu day. Your employer is breaking the law if they don’t.

😂

Wrong.

Seabreeze18 · 10/05/2023 06:32

I get your anger! Dh has to work every bh with no extra pay of extra day off, and we never have a family bh together which is depressing. Then I am self employed and my biggest work day is a Monday so not only do a lose loads of £££ for not working those days, I also have a shed load of admin trying to sort people out and change things. I get so annoyed all the people excited about getting a long weekend!

wentworthinmate · 09/05/2023 20:06

New job here, if I work a BH I get double time (previously unheard of) but no TOIL (which I always had). Swings n roundabouts.

csigeek · 09/05/2023 20:05

That’s actually is how it works though, you should be given an extra day on your entitlement if you normally have bank holidays included. Or a lieu day. Your employer is breaking the law if they don’t.

Sillyname63 · 09/05/2023 19:51

Sorry should have said your A/l entitlement should be increased this year to include the extra bank holiday day ,that may be worth enquiring about.

Sillyname63 · 09/05/2023 19:48

Employers do NOT have to give employee paid bank holidays as an extra to their A/L entitlement, they can just group it all together. Also if you don't work full time they only have to give you pro rata. I worked part time for the NHS and my Bank holiday entitlement was worked out at a % of my hours.

JMSA · 09/05/2023 19:34

Wasn't worth it for me. The teens I work with were WILD at school today Sad

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 09/05/2023 18:48

SofiaSoFar · 09/05/2023 18:30

FFFS.

(Yes an extra fucking in there)

OP is not complaining about her holiday entitlement, she's complaining about the number of people still insisting she will get an extra day off this year when she won't, and she has told them so.

Exactly

its not like the OPs posts haven’t been clear enough

Madamum18 · 09/05/2023 18:45

Dulra · 08/05/2023 08:37

Yes I’ve worked every day this BH weekend. No that doesn’t mean I’ll get an extra day off for the extra BH. That’s not how it works.
But that is how it should work, not taken from your AL entitlement but added to it. Think it is your employer you should be getting angry with not everyone else

It actually depends on what is in the contract. Some holiday entitlement "includes" bank holidays in some contracts. Some do not!

SofiaSoFar · 09/05/2023 18:30

LifesTooShortForYourNonsense · 09/05/2023 18:06

YABU - I’m self employed, I worked a few hours on Monday (from the sofa, tad hungover). But I knew that when I went freelance, as you would do went you took your job.

FFFS.

(Yes an extra fucking in there)

OP is not complaining about her holiday entitlement, she's complaining about the number of people still insisting she will get an extra day off this year when she won't, and she has told them so.

LifesTooShortForYourNonsense · 09/05/2023 18:06

YABU - I’m self employed, I worked a few hours on Monday (from the sofa, tad hungover). But I knew that when I went freelance, as you would do went you took your job.

Berlinlover · 09/05/2023 17:58

I never get an extra day off when I work a bank holiday, I get paid for working six days instead.