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Jourdain11 · 04/05/2023 21:22

Year 6 SATS, specifically. DD1 has barely been at school since Easter, what with one thing and another. SATS are next week and she's been fretting all week, getting more and more anxious and I have been unable to convince her that she won't be doomed to a life of failure if she doesn't do brilliantly.

All for attainment and I understand why testing is necessary, but they just seem OTT and too stressy for both teachers and children.

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kelspin · 04/05/2023 22:00

My dad's school went on and on about them too, all through year 6 which then gave my dd massive anxiety about it!
I have read though that secondary schools retest them early on in year 7 because the primary schools over revise the children in year 6 and it doesn't give an accurate reading of their abilities. I do believe they are more of an assessment on the primary school and their teachers than the children. My dd didn't get put into ability groups until after the October half term in year 7, when they'd finished all their tests.
Before my dd's sats I told her all this and just told her to that we would be incredibly proud of her as long as she tries her best. She honestly calmed down a lot the week of her sats.

fridaytwattery · 04/05/2023 21:59

Worth bearing in mind that these are KS2 SATs and covers the topics taught in KS2 not just Year 6, so the last couple of weeks won't make a huge difference.

Our local schools do use them to set.

mnahmnah · 04/05/2023 21:56

I would say that your DC school may not be handling it well with the children. DS is yr6 too. He’s been doing lots of practice papers at school, but mixed in with lots of more fun stuff. No practise at home required. Very little communication about it, other than they are happening and a chat about how he has done in the practise papers at parents evening. No pressure.

Bibbitybobbitty · 04/05/2023 21:56

Always seems such big deal in English schools with a lot of pressure on kids. We're in Scotland & kids get tested every 2 yrs through primary & secondary but it's just a regular school day, no preparation or extra work for them just turn up & get told it's an assessed piece of work today & do your best. It's really for schools rather than individual pupils, we get a result on reports at end of year but that's it.

LazyLeopard · 04/05/2023 21:56

Keep her off for the week.

Jourdain11 · 04/05/2023 21:54

Semtee · 04/05/2023 21:38

You wish your school wouldn't. Different schools treat them very differently.

I don't doubt, but yes, I'm talking about the experience at my the school my daughter goes to!

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Peachyboop · 04/05/2023 21:53

Stokey · 04/05/2023 21:44

I thought they're what the progress 8 scores are based on in secondary. So the primary has to show what progress they've made and then secondary has to show what progress they've added. None of it is particularly helpful or concerned with students' actual ability, rather their ability to be coached to pass tests.

I didn’t know about progress 8. Just googled it. Another way of testing the school rather than anything meaningful for the children. I hate that yr6 is basically just preparing for and then doing SATS. Although DD’s school really didn’t make a big deal about it and my daughter didn’t feel any pressure as far as I’m aware. She was pretty laid back about it.

I hope your daughter is ok and you manage to convince her that it really doesn’t matter.

Isitthathardtobekind · 04/05/2023 21:52

Mischance · 04/05/2023 21:48

SATs are not a judgement on the children - they are a piece of government nonsense that does not enhance learning one jot. Tell her they do not matter - which is the truth.

At the school where I am governor they do not make a big deal of it - the children roll up one day, do a test, then get on with their education. If your DD is this anxious, then the school are not handling it well. I would have words with them.

I completely agree with this.

Isitthathardtobekind · 04/05/2023 21:51

Stokey · 04/05/2023 21:44

I thought they're what the progress 8 scores are based on in secondary. So the primary has to show what progress they've made and then secondary has to show what progress they've added. None of it is particularly helpful or concerned with students' actual ability, rather their ability to be coached to pass tests.

It seems to me (annoyingly) that many secondaries take no notice of the Sats and do their own tests very early on in y7! I’m not a fan of sats but if they have to do them in Y6, I wish they would take note of them! I think the belief is that some primaries put too much emphasis on them in y6 and so it’s not real embedded knowledge.

Mischance · 04/05/2023 21:48

SATs are not a judgement on the children - they are a piece of government nonsense that does not enhance learning one jot. Tell her they do not matter - which is the truth.

At the school where I am governor they do not make a big deal of it - the children roll up one day, do a test, then get on with their education. If your DD is this anxious, then the school are not handling it well. I would have words with them.

Stokey · 04/05/2023 21:44

Peachyboop · 04/05/2023 21:36

I thought that SATS were for the school, to check how well the school has taught the children (that’s what I always told mine anyway!). I know my DD’s senior school doesn’t stream until yr8 so they test all through yr7. The SATS don’t mean anything for the children as far as I’m aware. Could be different in different areas though.

I thought they're what the progress 8 scores are based on in secondary. So the primary has to show what progress they've made and then secondary has to show what progress they've added. None of it is particularly helpful or concerned with students' actual ability, rather their ability to be coached to pass tests.

Semtee · 04/05/2023 21:38

Jourdain11 · 04/05/2023 21:31

Also, I know schools are under pressure and no doubt they genuinely want to kids to do as well as they can, but I wish they wouldn't go on and on about them to the children SO much.

You wish your school wouldn't. Different schools treat them very differently.

Peachyboop · 04/05/2023 21:36

I thought that SATS were for the school, to check how well the school has taught the children (that’s what I always told mine anyway!). I know my DD’s senior school doesn’t stream until yr8 so they test all through yr7. The SATS don’t mean anything for the children as far as I’m aware. Could be different in different areas though.

Jourdain11 · 04/05/2023 21:31

Also, I know schools are under pressure and no doubt they genuinely want to kids to do as well as they can, but I wish they wouldn't go on and on about them to the children SO much.

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