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Fancy a Chinese?

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Tinktravels · 04/05/2023 12:28

Now I know this is ridiculous but it might give you a laugh.

American people on tik tok have discovered that we call it ' a Chinese' rather than 'Chinese food'.
There has been so many stitches of videos from mainly English or Irish people saying things like 'I haven't had a Chinese in ages' or 'I really fancy a Chinese tonight'. There are many that are actually calling it racist which is we all know is rubbish!

They are also slating the food itself for not being authentic Chinese and having dishes like curry sauce and chips. Cant argue with that one we all know its not authentic but its bloody lovely.

Has it ever even crossed your mind that people would consider this racist?

(Search A Chinese British on tik-tok there are so many videos on this.)

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IrregularChoiceFan · 08/05/2023 19:09

RaiseTheBar · 07/05/2023 15:31

"Pa*i shop" is in no way comparable to saying "a Chinese"

"Pa*i" is a racist slur. "Chinese" is not.

I think that pollster was comparing the use of the slur for Chinese people, not saying 'a chinese'

I haven't heard either the p or c slur used in years thankfully. They will hopefully be totally gone when the next gen grow up as they won't be used to hearing their parents say it. My mum would hang her head in shame if I used either word, as I would with my children

Strawberrydelight78 · 08/05/2023 18:41

Might have something to do with them not used to seeing food with cancer causing ingredients and colourings which are banned around the rest of the world. The UK has much higher food safety standards compared to the US. Not to mention portion control.

jc12689 · 07/05/2023 17:19

I think that statement is far for racist than calling a Chinese takeaway a 'Chinese'

tabulahrasa · 07/05/2023 17:07

To be fair - the questioning of the authenticity of the food has mostly been confusion about why there’s chips.

Which must seem a bit odd if you don’t know that chips are on most menus here and that a lot of the early Chinese takeaways started in ex chip shops so they kept doing chips as well.

defi · 07/05/2023 16:53

I will not accept culinary slander from the yanks. Home of cheese in a can

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 07/05/2023 16:50

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:52

Nobody ever says they're going out for a French.

Because there are no French restaurants anywhere near here!

tabulahrasa · 07/05/2023 16:38

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:52

Nobody ever says they're going out for a French.

Probably because not many people do.

I’ve actually never been to a french restaurant, I don’t even know of any, I know some exist in the nearest city to me, but I don’t live there.

I can have food delivered from 6 Chinese places, 8 Indian places , 2 Italian restaurants and 5 chippies and one Thai place... and I live basically in a field a mile or two from any town.

Also, what style of food would that be? As in, I feel like given the proximity of France and the history of France and Britain, we’ve already appropriated a fair bit of french style stuff into just being food rather than it being something you could identify as specifically french.

sadsack78 · 07/05/2023 16:15

Americans seem to enjoy a lot of very inauthentic Italian, Mexican, and Chinese food too!

I thought we were all quietly getting on with ordering easy fast food in the knowledge it was in no way authentic or related to its supposed country of origin.

PutinSmellsPassItOn · 07/05/2023 16:06

Oh come off it, I got a slap upside the head off my mum for calling the corner shop the pki shop back in the 80s (( copied a friend saying it )) we lived in Cumbria so not a very diverse area. Same with 'chinky*. Not a term we used and I'd have felt my mums wrath if I did. They just aren't acceptable terms.

Going for a Chinese, Mexican, full English etc are just terms we use. Those aren't offensive......as an aside our Chinese food is authentic to us. And at least the chicken in our balls isn't chlorinated......cheeky twats coming for our much loved takeaways. Especially when the crab Rangoon they kept banging on like it was some sort of delicacy turned out to be crabsticks and cream cheese shoved in a wonton. The audacity !!

AllIeveknewonlyou · 07/05/2023 16:05

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:52

Nobody ever says they're going out for a French.

French restaurants are not renowned for their delivery options.

So I would say, if deciding on food cooked for us:

"Do you want a Chinese/Thai?"
"Do you want an Indian?"
"Would you like a Mexican?"
"Do you want to go to the bistro?"
"Do you want Sunday lunch?"
"Do you want an English breakfast?"
"Do you want fish and chips?"

I can't see anything inherently racist about this

NurseCranesRolodex · 07/05/2023 16:05

littleripper · 04/05/2023 13:14

We call our own national dish a Full English FFS
Americans eh?

Unless we're in N.Ireland, Wales or Scotland!!

NurseCranesRolodex · 07/05/2023 15:59

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:52

Nobody ever says they're going out for a French.

Fancy a crepe?

NurseCranesRolodex · 07/05/2023 15:58

America can fuck off with this. They have bastardised every culture & it's food for the last 200 odd years!! They still have the nerve to claim, 'I am Irish/German/Italian/Slovakian/on my Mother's side but....... on my Father's side...... '.

Florenz · 07/05/2023 15:52

Nobody ever says they're going out for a French.

MakesMeFeelSad · 07/05/2023 15:50

Reality · 04/05/2023 13:26

No, that’s what a mad poster claimed, sorry if I wasn’t clear.

I remember that thread, unless there's more than one poster out there finding it offensive!

RaiseTheBar · 07/05/2023 15:36

Tiktokers are not representative of an entire nation.

Surely a nation that abbreviates "shock absorbers" to "shocks" can see the grammatical similarity with abbreviating "Chinese takeaway" to "Chinese"🤔

RaiseTheBar · 07/05/2023 15:31

CurlewKate · 07/05/2023 08:24

@tabulahrasa Ditto Pa*i Shop. Common English usage.

"Pa*i shop" is in no way comparable to saying "a Chinese"

"Pa*i" is a racist slur. "Chinese" is not.

nopenotplaying · 07/05/2023 11:29

mrsbyers · 04/05/2023 12:43

I don’t think it’s racist and neither do the Chinese people I know , the old term which was racist chi£nkies causes more offence

The Chinese lady I knew (parents ran a takeaway) despised this term. Chinese wasn't offensive and was accepted as shorthand for takeaway/meal

tabulahrasa · 07/05/2023 10:17

Schroedingersimmigrant · 07/05/2023 09:35

Doesn't US have massive issues with anti Asian racism? Maybe the tiktokers could take that on

One of the reasons it blew up was a fairly big Asian American content creator questioning it because a Chinese, a Mexican etc, has been/is used in America about people as a way of dehumanising people.

She questioned whether the same would apply to Italian food or Greek food in the U.K.

But it does and referring to a person as a nationality with no noun or pronoun on the U.K. would be jarring.

Not saying racism doesn’t exist, obviously, but that particular language feature doesn’t work here.

But instead of accepting that it’s a food related language difference, she doubled down and it went viral.

HelpMeGetThrough · 07/05/2023 10:09

Just like poor old Richard III.

Could replace that now with Charles III 🤷‍♂️

Snugglemonkey · 07/05/2023 10:07

CurlewKate · 07/05/2023 08:24

@tabulahrasa Ditto Pa*i Shop. Common English usage.

That has more in common with the term "ch*nky" and is most definitely racist. I have not heard anyone use either for many years.

Male101 · 07/05/2023 10:01

Couple of points.

  1. America has more professionally offended then we do
  1. American language is very simple.
  1. Many Americans rarely if at all venture outside of america . So the thought of things being different somewhere else is mind blowing.
Sunraes · 07/05/2023 10:01

DelilahBucket · 07/05/2023 09:54

Chinese takeaway chips. You can't seem to get them anywhere else. It's just the oil they are cooked in that makes them taste different I think.

Ok thank you. I’m not in the UK and have never heard of this. But will definitely try next time I’m there! 😂

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 07/05/2023 09:59

I'm not sure a country that eats squirty cheese and jam with peanut butter is in any position to comment on the food anywhere else!

mellongoose · 07/05/2023 09:59

Substitute 'Americans' with 'Puritans' and you'll find your answer.

I cannot bare this new culture of telling other people how to think and speak.

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