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Did I say something wrong?

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DollyPlop · 01/05/2023 07:20

I’m a community nurse. Last night I was doing an out of hours shift and I was paired up with a young HCA.
As we drove off I tried to get conversation going and asked her where she worked previously, she said this was her first job so I said “oh right, are you doing your nursing?”

Well this seemed to really piss her off!! She replied “doing MY nursing? Errr no … I’m working as a HCA”. I was a bit taken back as she seemed so offended! So I just said “oh it’s just that a lot of people train to be a nurse whilst working as a HCA, I thought maybe that was what you were doing” so she said “why would you assume that? Not everyone wants to be a nurse”

We didn’t talk much after that!! Did I say something wrong??

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Shopper727 · 01/05/2023 12:09

She could’ve just said no I quite enjoy my job and happy to remain as I am getting all crabbit about it seems a bit ott but I also wouldn’t assume a person was doing their training even though you didn’t mean it in a bad way. She’s clearly prickly about it for some reason. I did hca shifts pre training with adults then went on to do paeds nursing, I was asked by someone if I was doing childrens nursing because I didn’t like adults? Well children have parents who are adults, people are weird they don’t always think before speaking.

Changeforachange · 01/05/2023 12:08

You didn't assume, you simply asked if she was going into nursing - it's not unreasonable given that to you've met several young HCA taking that route.
It's also not unreasonable to have a work-related conversation at work.

Huffy & defensive isn't a mature response in a work situation, even if she felt you were rude.

Maybe her Parents or whoever have given her grief over it "you can do better etc" - who knows. But it wasn't you.

Lizzt2007 · 01/05/2023 11:50

DollyPlop · 01/05/2023 09:03

I used to be a HCA, nothing wrong with it at all … I guess I just assumed as she was so young she’d be planning on going up the ladder. I’ll have to be more careful in future

So you see an hca as being bottom of the ladder and not a career choice on its own? Yes op, you were extremely rude and are compounding it.

CityCommuter · 01/05/2023 11:33

@DollyPlop no you didn't say anything wrong as you're right it's common for people work as a HCA while they're training to be a nurse at the same time. It's gives a good insight as to whether they're cut out for the job or not!

You were being friendly and chatty, she's just miserable and sounds like one of those people who gets easily offended about absolutely everything! It's a pity you didn't reply it's just as well you're not training to be a nurse as you don't have the personality for it! 🤣

Botw1 · 01/05/2023 11:31

It's a reasonable assumption and a reasonable question

Shed know that if she had a bit more experience

pizzaHeart · 01/05/2023 11:31

Clarinet1 · 01/05/2023 07:49

I think that you were just trying to make conversation and show interest in her. Whatever the reasons for her reaction may have been it, it was impolite and rude.

I agree with this^.
It was just a conversation, it would be more weird if you said after her words: oh did you enjoy the weather yesterday? Of course you do certain assumptions in the conversation and this one wasnt so unusual.

shortanddumpy · 01/05/2023 11:26

I used to get this as a TA and it was a definite sore spot for me. I was never as rude in response but it does grate on you.

HP07 · 01/05/2023 10:35

Probably along the same lines as someone asking you if you are training to be a doctor!
I’m a Vet Nurse and in my younger years I was asked a lot of times if I was training to be a Vet. Nope! Different profession altogether.
You implied that her choice of vocation was not adequate and that she should be working towards something more. So I think you put your foot in it.

holidayholidayholiday · 01/05/2023 10:30

5128gap · 01/05/2023 10:10

I suppose the nearest thing to imagine to see why it touched a nerve is if someone said to you 'Community nurse? Is there a way from there to train as a doctor?'
Obviously you didn't mean it, but I get why she was put out.

But that's not right is it? They are completely different careers and professions. Whereas it's very common for people going into nursing to start as an HCA or to work as an HCA when training. It's a perfectly reasonable question to ask a young person in their first job if that might be their plan because in a lot of cases that would be correct.

Rockingcloggs · 01/05/2023 10:22

No, you didn't say anything wrong at all.

Also, the theory that she was insulted because you implied that her HCA job is just a stepping stone to something better is shite too, if she gets insulted by that then she's clearly a member of The Professionally Offended Charter and should be given no more thought.

5128gap · 01/05/2023 10:10

I suppose the nearest thing to imagine to see why it touched a nerve is if someone said to you 'Community nurse? Is there a way from there to train as a doctor?'
Obviously you didn't mean it, but I get why she was put out.

Hillrunning · 01/05/2023 10:08

I'd be annoyed with you if you asked me that sort of question. Her response was a bit over the top it doesn't negate that what you said was rude.

Willmafrockfit · 01/05/2023 10:05

i agree you should have been more careful and tactful.

Willmafrockfit · 01/05/2023 10:03

plenty of hca's around,
they dont all go into nursing.
i dont spose she was qualified

Redlocks30 · 01/05/2023 10:01

DollyPlop · 01/05/2023 09:03

I used to be a HCA, nothing wrong with it at all … I guess I just assumed as she was so young she’d be planning on going up the ladder. I’ll have to be more careful in future

‘Up the ladder’?!

I think you need to think before you speak, yes.

Daylighteyes · 01/05/2023 09:55

I think she was rude!

Hopefully as a HCA she’s not as ‘spikey’ to her clients if they asked a similar question.

Kingoftheroad · 01/05/2023 09:55

You were only being friendly and maiming conversation- no excuse she was down right rude

holidayholidayholiday · 01/05/2023 09:50

Well OP you've been handed your arse on this thread haven't you?!
Maybe it was insensitive of you, but I certainly don't think you'll be the only person asking her that question.
Her response was also rude to what was a perfectly normal question.

You were maybe insensitive, but she was bloody rude!

Mortimercat · 01/05/2023 09:47

Mosaic123 · 01/05/2023 07:53

In my book you were subtly insulting her by saying that she was in a job where she she would obviously be wanting to move up to a different one. And it's not as though you knew her well.

A question about if she was local, for example, would have been more appropriate.

I'd be offended too.

Yes this. I think you were quite rude.

xPissflapsx · 01/05/2023 09:35

Clarinet1 · 01/05/2023 07:49

I think that you were just trying to make conversation and show interest in her. Whatever the reasons for her reaction may have been it, it was impolite and rude.

This!

Ladybug14 · 01/05/2023 09:34

DollyPlop · 01/05/2023 09:03

I used to be a HCA, nothing wrong with it at all … I guess I just assumed as she was so young she’d be planning on going up the ladder. I’ll have to be more careful in future

Yes. Just a bit less assumption making , is all

Luredbyapomegranate · 01/05/2023 09:33

Idontgiveagriffindamn · 01/05/2023 07:24

Possibly the assumption that what she’s doing isn’t enough and she has to do something better.
maybe it’s a sore point for her.

Something like this, but she’s being oversensitive if so. Forget it.

FabFitFifties · 01/05/2023 09:30

She was very rude. You were a bit tactless. HCA is a different role, rather than the bottom of the nursing ladder. Though within a nursing team, it's very different to being a carer in Social Care for example - you are managed and supervised by nurses, including the lowest grade nurses in the team. Some posters are confusing the two roles. I hope she isn't so easily offended by often extremely tactless clients. Or at least manages not to be rude to them.

neonjumper · 01/05/2023 09:25

She was rude . You were making conversation.

Mephisneon · 01/05/2023 09:24

BessieSurtees · 01/05/2023 09:09

Well fuck me, even after all of these replies you come back to reinforce that she is bottom of the ladder. Unbelievable.

I reckon she had you sussed from the off.

Yes this exactly. It's actually worrying op obviously works with people. Probably some in quite difficult times but has such little understanding of how she comes across.

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