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sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 11:05

DH works away every other week. It actually works out he's away slightly more days than he's home. We have a toddler who is challenging to say the least. I also work in a demanding senior role.

I'm absolutely exhausted with holding family life together when he's away, balancing my job, childcare, and home life. He doesn't seem to understand how utterly exhausting this is. We have no family support. He comes home for the week and it feels as though he still expects me to be default parent - I think he gets used to being away so he sort of checks out of family life when he's back. I don't mean in the sense of being involved - he still wants days out and fun etc with our DC. But he doesn't pick up any of the drudgery/ mental load from me when he's back. I'm still expected to keep everything ticking over. So it's like he's all in for the fun times, but the hard stuff I do when he's away I'm still expected to keep on with.

We've had many a heated discussion about this and he insists he genuinely doesn't know what I'm talking about, and that he does "everything he can" to take the pressure off me. I am not seeing or feeling less pressure when he's home though. I've tried to explain the concept of the mental load to him and he just doesn't get it. Like I want someone else to do the thinking and planning for a bit. I don't know what to do anymore, but it's making me resent him and his work situation so much. I resent that he wakes up in his hotel on a work morning and only has himself or focus on getting ready, no tantrums to deal with, no stress. So when he comes home, it should be his turn to deal with this surely?

The thing is, he earns really good money working away, so financially we'd be silly to throw the towel in on that. I do get that and obviously I enjoy the financial benefits to our family. But I'm trying to weigh that up with the added pressure on my shoulders, which is just too much. If he came home for the week and basically stepped into my shoes and just acted as I do when he's away (ie take over the role of default parent), it would feel much better. His argument is, why would I act as though I'm solo parenting when you're here? It frustrates me so much though because that's exactly what I have to do! So the resentment is just building more and more. If he took over completely I'd be able to recharge ready for him going away again.

AIBU to feel resentful and to expect him to take over my role when he's home?

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billy1966 · 24/04/2023 15:44

He sounds both lazy and selfish.

That he will put his job ahead of you and child and up and leave you rather than be late is very telling.

Don't have another child with this selfish loser.

He's a poor husband and father.

Mind yourself OP, start booking some weekends away and leave him to it.

Stop booking family days out, they simply aren't as important as you getting down time and some rest.

He hasn't your back, nor will he, so protect yourself and don't get pregnant again.

His type usually only get more selfish as time goes on.

Sorry!

Northby · 24/04/2023 15:17

OP, half the week (or so) you are working full time and default parent. When DH is home, you are working full time and either default parent or team parent (depending on who you ask).
Meanwhile your DH is working full time half the week without childcare responsibilities, and for the other half he is team parent (again, depending on who you ask).

There is no equality where one of you spends half the week being default parent and the other doesn’t spend at least some time also being default parent. He should tag team with you so that, in the same way he benefits from minimal childcare stress -thanks to you- while working away, when he is home he picks up the slack so you can now have your turn benefitting from minimal childcare stress - thanks to him - when he is home.

Also get really specific about what mental load entails and point blank refuse to do half of the things you’re doing. Some of your home life will go to wrack and ruin but hopefully it’ll result in him understanding how to pull his weight!

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 15:06

Belltentdreamer · 24/04/2023 14:44

I think the problem is usually when a spouse works away it means that they earn enough money that the parent at home with the child is either a SAHM or PT so becomes that default parent. Or both parents have big high earning careers and they have enough money to comfortably employ a nanny to ensure smooth running of childcare and house!
With you the roles seem a little less defined cause a bit of a power struggle?

Yeah this makes sense. I'm not a SAHP, I also work. And although I don't earn as much as him, I do still bring in a considerable proportion of our household income. But we don't earn quite highly enough to afford a FT nanny. So yeah we are somewhere in the middle and the roles aren't clearly defined.

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JellyBellies · 24/04/2023 15:04

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 12:29

A nanny would eat my entire salary unfortunately, so there'd be no point me working. I might as well quit work and be the nanny myself.

A nanny would take all your salary but that would be a pretty short term view. You only need a nanny until your youngest is school age. But you keeping you career going would have long term benefits of increased earnings better pension, better career prospects etc

Pallisers · 24/04/2023 15:01

Op, this resentment will not be good for your marriage. Your dh is coasting along letting you do all the hard work and enjoying the nice bits of being a parent. this isn't fair and isn't good for your relationship nor his relationship with his child.

I'd do two things. One, I'd have a conversation at a time when you aren't actively angry with him for not pulling his weight. So not in the moment when he couldn't be arsed packing a bag for his child because that is women's work. Instead some evening when you have had a nice day together, tell him you want to have a discussion about division of labour because you are at the end of your rope and surely the man who loves you wants to solve that.

Second, the next week he is home, set your alarm, get up and go to work an hour or two earlier - have a nice cup of coffee somewhere. Just be out of the house before you need to leave for nursery. Leave him with the toddler. Don't pack a bag. Don't make lunch. Don't even wake him if you don't want to. Just go and send a text saying "had to head in early today - will be doing this all week" and let him experience what he thinks is so easy for you to do. not just one day but every day.

How, when he says "well it is easier for you to do the bag" you haven't said "for fucks sake just pack the bag will you and stop being an arse about it" is beyond me. Maybe you have.

Natty13 · 24/04/2023 14:59

"His argument is, why would I act as though I'm solo parenting when you're here?"

Because I was on my own with all this last week and I'll be on my own again next week. Time for you to do your fair share or I will end up resenting you.

Botw1 · 24/04/2023 14:56

@Belltentdreamer

Expecting your oh to do their share isn't a power struggle

Or at least it shouldn't be.

It's only a power struggle because her oh thinks he's more important than her

Codlingmoths · 24/04/2023 14:51

By default parent I mean, if we are both working on particular day when he's home he will leave it to me to sort out DC out as he sees it as more important that he's at work on time then me (he's said this before)
wow just wow.
how about Dh: when you are home you will get dc ready for nursery and take them. If that makes you late then maybe you will manage it better the next day. Until you are up to taking this one single tiny component of parenting our child off my plate on the odd day you are home, I don’t want you on any days out. Dc and I will go do fun things without you like we have to most of the time. There’s no point you living here if you refuse to parent or value my largely single parenting role or value my job one iota. If you resent being left out of family outings and being asked to do one thing so much that you decide to leave me then it really wasnt much of a marriage anyway.

Dishwashy · 24/04/2023 14:48

It gets quoted a lot OP but if you haven't seen this it's worth a look:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/gender-wars-household-chores-comic

But actually I think you have a bigger problem than this because your husband seems so convinced he is already doing his fair share.
See also "She divorced me because I left my dishes by the sink."

The gender wars of household chores: a feminist comic

French comic artist Emma introduces the concept of the mental load. When a man expects his partner to ask him to do things, he is viewing her as the manager of their household chores

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/gender-wars-household-chores-comic

Belltentdreamer · 24/04/2023 14:44

I think the problem is usually when a spouse works away it means that they earn enough money that the parent at home with the child is either a SAHM or PT so becomes that default parent. Or both parents have big high earning careers and they have enough money to comfortably employ a nanny to ensure smooth running of childcare and house!
With you the roles seem a little less defined cause a bit of a power struggle?

daylilies · 24/04/2023 14:19

I saw this posted on another thread OP 'To be totally hacked off at DH’s refusal to do any housework?' And thought it interesting as not just a list of housework. Might be a way to articulate the issues of 'mental load'

cptartapp · 24/04/2023 14:10

Remind him that if you split over this, all 24/7 childcare then becomes split 50/50 every week which will put paid to his working away and result in him living a very different life.

Dixiechickonhols · 24/04/2023 14:10

I think you need to leave him to it so he experiences same as you. Go away for a few days or book activities eg gym pt or meet friends so he’s it in terms of child and household.
Set out practical examples. You have had x hours free last week.
Probably you dropping to 4 days and having a day off is similar to him having a week away each fortnight. He’s doing no cooking, no childcare, no nursery drop offs every other week that’s a huge amount of free time.

PriOn1 · 24/04/2023 14:08

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 12:29

A nanny would eat my entire salary unfortunately, so there'd be no point me working. I might as well quit work and be the nanny myself.

Someone else commented on the fact that your future earnings and pension would take a massive hit and that is hugely significant.

But something else struck me about your thinking; a nanny would not “eat [your] entire salary”, a nanny would cost part of your salary and part of your husband’s. Alternatively it could take a chunk of your husband’s wage, leaving yours intact (the opposite of the scenario you put forward).

Every time you think that way, you are confirming subconsciously that the child is indeed, your responsibility. I understand the mental shortcut, because the amount you earn is probably roughly similar to what a nanny would cost, but there’s a definite implication there that it would be you that had to pay for the nanny in order to have the right to work without your current excess workload.

Lemonademoney · 24/04/2023 14:07

It’s a hard one. My partner used to travel a lot when mine were small and it is exhausting but it’s also exhausting to travel long haul… I used to try and grab an afternoon to myself whenever he got back and equally would try and give him a break too. I work part time and my husband full time and although he no longer travels anywhere near as much I would say I am still the default parent (I still have one little one at home too).

What sort of works for us is to assign specific roles. He is in charge of one type of weekly activity and I organise the other. He does bins/dishes and washing, I foodshop, cook, clean and iron. It feels fairer now I know he will take over certain tasks automatically.

ImNotAsThinkAsYouDrunkIAm · 24/04/2023 14:07

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 13:58

I get what you're saying but if I didn't do it, there would be mornings she wouldn't be ready for nursery and that affects my job only. He wouldn't hang around to sort that out - he'd be gone. So I'd be the one late for work.

With the days out example, ok I suppose I could stop planning them in their entirety. But then we'd never do anything nice as a family, because he sure as hell wouldn't take the initiative. I don't want to spend our weekends as a family stuck in the house, especially since we only get 2 a month together instead of 4.

Go to work, or the gym early, so you’re not in the house.

At the weekend, tell him to plan something. If he doesn’t, go out and leave him with the toddler- he didn’t plan anything, so it’s fair to assume he’s free to look after dc while you take the opportunity to do something for you.

Botw1 · 24/04/2023 14:05

@sotiredandburntout

Leave before him.

Go on nights and days out without him

Go away for the weekend and leave him at home with the toddler

Or.

Just leave. He won't change.

He's told you he doesn't value your time or contribution abd thinks he is more important. Listen to him.

ImNotAsThinkAsYouDrunkIAm · 24/04/2023 14:04

I get it, you don’t want to ask him to do things, you want him to know they need doing and just do them. And to a point that’s reasonable, but if you’ve been doing it all until now, then there are going to be things he doesn’t think about. You’re going to have to start by asking, and by not volunteering to do them yourself.

So when the car insurance needs doing, tell him, forward him the email, and say can you sort this please.

Plans for the weekend? Tell him you’re not planning it, you’re too tired. Ask him to come up with a plan and let you know.

School drop offs and pickups because his job is more important - that’s unacceptable, tell him so, and tell him which days he’s doing. Make yourself unavailable so it’s not an option. Go to the gym or something.

I absolutely hated planning meals and doing food shopping. So I told my husband I wasn’t doing it anymore. It was all his. That might be harder for you if he’s not home a lot of the time to eat the meals, but if there is one other single thing that you’re doing that he could take over, identify it and hand it over. Paying the nursery bills? I remember that was always a major pain, with tax free childcare and what not.

Email from nursery that child has to dress up as something particular, bring something in etc, and it’s one of the days he’s home? Hey DH, just got this email, can you sort it please. He’ll forget some of the time. When the nursery asks, point them in his direction. Make sure he’s getting all emails and texts as well as you.

It wont be instant. But it can get better.

Curiosity101 · 24/04/2023 14:02

You're going to have to suggest some actionable changes OP. There is no incentive for him to change anything.

A few of us have suggested rotas and generally a clearer separation of roles/responsibilities as well as more explicit downtime called out.

You also need to let him fail sometimes.

I got really fed up of my DH stomping his feet and telling me I was "faffing about" when we were meant to be going somewhere with the DCs that I decided to stop "faffing" and see what would happen. I had explained to him before (many times) what I was actually doing but eventually had enough of the disrespect and the annoying "I'm always ready, we're always waiting for you"

One of the times we hadn't packed a bib for DS who was probably 10months at the time. DH is looking at me like ?? And I just breezily told him why we didn't have it and that I was going outside to help older DS with his lunch and it was now DHs problem. I find a good head tilt and matching their confusion with confusion helps when you've tried all the reasonable solutions.

DH: "We don't have <x>"
Me: head tilt "Oh really, what are we going to do about that?" Awkward pause, refuse to give solution

DH is way better and way more respectful now he understands that my "faffing" actually benefits us all and is necessary. No amount of telling him made him understand though.

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 13:58

Botw1 · 24/04/2023 13:54

@sotiredandburntout

So stop doing it all.

Repeating you're exhausted because you iave to do everything while you enable your oh to only go to work won't change anything

I get what you're saying but if I didn't do it, there would be mornings she wouldn't be ready for nursery and that affects my job only. He wouldn't hang around to sort that out - he'd be gone. So I'd be the one late for work.

With the days out example, ok I suppose I could stop planning them in their entirety. But then we'd never do anything nice as a family, because he sure as hell wouldn't take the initiative. I don't want to spend our weekends as a family stuck in the house, especially since we only get 2 a month together instead of 4.

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Botw1 · 24/04/2023 13:54

@sotiredandburntout

So stop doing it all.

Repeating you're exhausted because you iave to do everything while you enable your oh to only go to work won't change anything

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 13:52

Also there are no timezone changes involved, he works a 6 hour drive away in the same country.

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 24/04/2023 13:51

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 12:52

Not just this, but things like, if we have a day out somewhere he will leave the planning, booking and organising to me. He'll then just come along for the fun part. Last time I raised this and said I need you to take over the mental side of planning / packing the bag for toddler etc to give me a break, he said "well you're normally on top of it aren't you, so I don't need to". Yes I'm on top of it because you won't do it if I don't! What choice do I have? 🙄

Have you specifically told him to sort the bag and plan the day? You both need better communication and planning between the two of you. Yes, he should be more involved and you shouldn’t need to tell him that but you are where you are now.

‘’DH, let’s go to the zoo next weekend. This one is all on you. I need you to sort the tickets and get Jr ready to go.”

”DH- starting next week you are doing drop off and pick up for Jr on the days you aren’t traveling”

”DH- the insurance needs quoted here’s the information from the last time I did it”

”Hey great rate on the insurance, you’re in charge of it from now on. Consider it officially yours to manage”

But one thing is that it is hard on both parents to manage a regular absence. It’s like kids playing double Dutch jump rope the present parent has all the information and the absent one is trying to figure out when and where to jump in. That is going to require more hard rules and less guessing/anticipating to work until you both get your roles down.

sotiredandburntout · 24/04/2023 13:50

Curiosity101 · 24/04/2023 13:44

@Belltentdreamer I've worked away plenty and I couldn't disagree with you more... But only because there's a toddler involved.

I agree that prior to having children everything you've said is true. Working away still is work, travel and time zones are a pain. But you still only have yourself to worry about. If you're sick you take sick time. You only get yourself ready in a morning. Once you're done working for the day you're done. Sure... You wish you had your sofa and your bed and you really wish you could go to your snack cupboard and grab a snack etc. You wish you had more than just the clothes in your suitcase etc

But the OP and her husband have a toddler. Solo parenting a young child is relentless and in most situations will be way way harder. If OP is ill - tough. If toddler wakes several times - tough. When OP finishes work she's got a second job to start.

You may have objected to it if your husband had suggested what that previous poster has. But that doesn't mean he'd have been unreasonable to propose it if you had a young child together. The parent at home is sacrificing a lot to support a partner that works away. And that's fine, but support goes both ways.

You've hit the nail on the head. This is why I'm resentful. I go from one job to the next and I cannot "clock off and unwind" like he can. Toddler's sleep still isn't great so on top of full on mornings and evenings before and after work, I'm also often not getting a full nights sleep. My job is mentally very demanding and it's hard to perform to the level in expected to when I'm so burnt out. That's why I need the chance to recharge when he's home. I really do resent the fact he has just the one job to focus on, with none of the household drudgery either side of his working day.

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Botw1 · 24/04/2023 13:48

@Belltentdreamer

Parenting your child and doing housework isn't helping out. He's not doing her a favour

The op also needs downtime