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Believing in ghosts

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StupidFaces · 24/04/2023 08:34

I used to, now I think it’s ridiculous. People have been trying to prove the existence of ghosts for over 150 years and yet not one scrap of credible evidence to suggest they exist. I wish they did, I’d love it to be real but it just doesn’t make sense for them to exist does it?

Surely if ghosts were real, abattoirs would be haunted to fuck by the ghosts of dead cows? How come nobody ever sees a ghost dressed in trackies and Nike trainers? Why are they only ever dressed in Victorian/medieval clothes etc?

Do people think ghosts of fish haunt the ocean?

For those that do believe … what do you think about the above scenarios?

For those that done believe … would you be happy to spend a night alone in a supposedly haunted castle?

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Craftycorvid · 24/04/2023 22:56

Have seen what may have been a ghost wearing trackie bottoms. Thought nothing of it until I realised no person could have walked away via the route the person I saw took.

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 22:53

ConkerBonkers · 24/04/2023 22:51

@Dithyramb you forgot to wheel out the statement that, do you know, there is a prize of a gazillion gazillion quid for the person who proves in a laboratory that ghosts/telepathy/ state your woo poison, is real. Don't worry, I've helped you out :)

I think the James Randi prize stopped being offered years ago, actually.

ConkerBonkers · 24/04/2023 22:51

@Dithyramb you forgot to wheel out the statement that, do you know, there is a prize of a gazillion gazillion quid for the person who proves in a laboratory that ghosts/telepathy/ state your woo poison, is real. Don't worry, I've helped you out :)

malificent7 · 24/04/2023 22:51

I lived in a haunted house once...central Liverpool...an old warehouse had been. converted to flats. Rent was dirt cheap.

I looked around and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife..it was electric...but not threatening. Better than living flatmates I thought!

The first week I invited a friend round and she said it was haunted straight away.

8 months later someone at work asked me where I lived. When I told them, they said immediately " our colleague xxxxx used to live there. It's haunted...she saw a man walk through a wall."

The hairs on my neck stood up. I never saw anything but there was an electric energy. Hard to explain really.

I have a 1st in a science so am normally very logical but there is unexplained.

Anyotherdude · 24/04/2023 22:49

I would like to agree with you OP, but the number of accounts of pets sensing something “eerie” makes me think that we either choose to or choose not to follow instincts - maybe because we have become so certain of our place in the world that we arrogantly assume we are always right.
Having recently become a first-time dog owner, I would definitely trust my dog’s instincts over mine - even if that meant removing myself from a situation that I would logically not think was threatening…

MandyMotherOfBrian · 24/04/2023 22:48

Depends what the definition of Ghost is. Actual manifestations of the long or recently dead? No I don’t believe that. Something like String Theory and Parallel Universes where there is a crossover of images of beings- human or animal- , hmm, maybe.

GettingStuffed · 24/04/2023 22:46

I've seen a ghost at Longleat there was a patch of mist on the lawn and inside it was a woman in period dress.

My husband saw an old lady walking down the road towards him, then she vanished.

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 22:43

Daisybuttercup12345 · 24/04/2023 22:38

Oh Wise and Perfect person who knows absolutely everything and nothing.

Produce any credible evidence, and I’m sure @SunnySaturdayMorning will consider it. I certainly would.

Fairislefandango · 24/04/2023 22:43

Oh Wise and Perfect person who knows absolutely everything and nothing.

How do you choose which totally unsubstantiated things you do believe in and which you don't? Dragons? Unicorns? Pixies? Gods? You really don't need to be 'wise and perfect' to think it's silly to believe in something for which there is no evidence.

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 22:42

Ghost stories are interesting in terms of what they say about a particular culture’s worldview, but the sort of thing you get on Mn ‘woo’ threads is typically a mixture of superstition, gullibility, suggestibility, wishful thinking and coincidence. If you take out the stuff that posters heard about from somebody else (who is always extremely practical and sceptical), stuff that happened in childhood, stuff that happened when the poster was in bed, dozing or abruptly awakened, or in poor light, or stuff that happened when the poster was somewhere unfamiliar they considered ‘spooky’, and coincidence, there’s not exactly a lot left.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 24/04/2023 22:38

SunnySaturdayMorning · 24/04/2023 19:16

Of course it’s a load of bullshit and I heavily question the mental health of anyone who “believes”.

Oh Wise and Perfect person who knows absolutely everything and nothing.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 24/04/2023 22:34

MaryHoldTheCandleSteadyWhileIShaveTheChickensLeg · 24/04/2023 18:53

I work in an ancient manor house that's almost 800 years old.

There's no such thing as ghosts, but oh boy do people like to think so.

And they're always the sort who think they're 'special' in some way. Standing there shaking and shivering like a muppet, while the 'spirits appear to them' 🙄🙄

Or perhaps its just that you can't see them?

Fairislefandango · 24/04/2023 22:31

I don't believe, never have, and yes I'd happily stay the night in a supposedly haunted castle. I don't believe in any kind of woo stuff or deities.

Enfys1982 · 24/04/2023 22:31

I’ve seen a few things. I saw my old dog around the house lots of times for ages after he died. He was a cross breed and had a distinctive coat and bushy tail. I would only ever see him out of the corner of my eye, he’d randomly walk across the kitchen or I’d see him sitting on the step and then I’d look up and he’d be gone. My mum saw his tail wagging in the garden as well. I saw my grandmother looking at me through the window just hours after she died, she look about twenty years younger, like she did when I was a child.

None of this was scary. I can’t explain any of it.

GraysPapaya · 24/04/2023 22:20

I can’t help but think, if they were real why has no one ever caught one on camera? I want to be open minded but I think most things can be explained

Mamai90 · 24/04/2023 22:19

PollyAmour · 24/04/2023 19:12

I once nursed an elderly lady who was receiving end of life care and she told me Joe, her husband, was waiting for her. She could see him in the room.
Probably morphine induced delusions but she died very peacefully.

When we visited my great uncle in hospital when he was very ill he said 'My mammy was here last night' he said he felt her presence and then she sat on the bed with him. He was almost blind but he said he could see her clearly but when be reached out to touch her and she disappeared. He then turned to us and said 'it's time'. He died that afternoon.

Regardless of what he did or didn't actually see we were quite moved and reassured that he died peacefully believing his Mammy who had brought him to the world in would bring him out. He wasn't the type to believe in ghosts but I hope I leave this mortal coil believing the same thing.

Blondey2023 · 24/04/2023 22:15

jaundicedoutlook · 24/04/2023 17:43

Does that mean that if I die before I submit my tax return I’m going to haunt the offices of HMRC forever…?

@jaundicedoutlook snort 😂

Shropshirepie · 24/04/2023 22:14

It sounds crazy and the rational part of me says it can’t be so, but I have heard and seen things that I can’t explain. And they relate to something I found out about later but had no idea about at the time.

MsAdoraBelleDearheartVonLipwig · 24/04/2023 22:13

I don’t know if I really believe or not but I do think that there’s a lot we don’t know about the human brain and it’s ability to project and see patterns and familiar shapes.

I think ghost stories probably originate from a time when people knew less about brain power and were more easily led by religion and myth and legend.

TheShade · 24/04/2023 22:04

(Because I feel like it’s more about our brains/beliefs/culture/primal instincts sensing danger in the dark etc and I find it so interesting.) I wouldn’t stay alone in a ‘haunted house’ because I couldn’t trick my brain to not be scared even though I don’t rationally believe in ‘ghosts’.

CorsicaDreaming · 24/04/2023 22:03

MidlandCatGirl · 24/04/2023 17:26

I’m going to come across as a total odd bod but I’ve seen a fair number of ghosts and apart from a monk (who was also seen in the same house in the same place but by a different relative), they’ve all been in fairly modern - ie 1940’s onwards - clothing.

I just think some of us are shut off to seeing other things whereas some of us are more open.

Can you tell us a bit more about what you've seen? @MidlandCatGirl

TheShade · 24/04/2023 22:01

I’ve had a couple of experiences that are spooky/can’t explain but I still don’t believe in ‘ghosts’, not really. I love hearing about people’s own ghost stories though.

HecticHedgehog · 24/04/2023 21:59

I find it odd someone wouldn't believe in ghosts but would believe time slips happen though as there's no evidence of that either.

HecticHedgehog · 24/04/2023 21:59

I've never seen a ghost but have felt one. I stayed at a friends house once and the dread I felt in bed was unreal, I was terrified. I could sense it looking at me from near the window but couldn't see it. Never mentioned it to my friend until after she moved out and she'd never mentioned anything to me, but she felt it too. I've never felt anything like it before or since.

JudgeRinderonTinder · 24/04/2023 21:55

When you think about it properly, it is ridiculous. I used to believe as well, or not so much believe, but be a bit more open minded to it. Not so much now. I always think it’s curious how it’s always old buildings and Victorian clothes, untimely tragic deaths, and never just Peter from down the road who died last year of natural causes.

We all have decent phones now that take photos and videos very readily, yet not once has a ghost ever been convincingly captured. I guess I just learned the art of critical thought more as I got older 🤣

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