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Housewivesarguingagain · 23/04/2023 22:57

Holly Willoughby.

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Paul2023 · 05/06/2023 12:43

Holly didn’t write that speech I guarantee.

I think that Hollys speech was written by ITV, to leave Schofield isolated and leave all the blame with him. So ITV can shun any responsibility.
And so the show can move on and leave PS to face the music on his own. ITV have literally got their barge pole out.

MrBit · 05/06/2023 12:31

I hope they bring in Ben shepherd, they made a good pairing
I don't think she knew for certain and in her shoes I'd want to believe my working partner when he said the rumours weren't true

Paul2023 · 05/06/2023 12:29

Above comment was a general one, not aimed at anyone in particular

Paul2023 · 05/06/2023 12:27

Let’s be frank. You have to be pretty ruthless to get to the top in the entertainment business, show business, call it what you will.
It’s not always about being nice to climb the greasy pole. Like anything in life , politics and business leaders.
Bosses of big companies have had to tread on people to get there. Same as Prime Ministers. They didn’t get the top job by being nice guys.

If people get somewhere in life because they know someone that can give them a leg up ,they’ll do it.No pun intended

Zonder · 05/06/2023 07:59

Probably about how sad she was PS lied to her and everyone knows he lied to he because you can see how painstakingly he repeated that in his Whatsapps that were made public!

Paul2023 · 05/06/2023 07:55

She’s back on This Morning today with a prepared statement apparently.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 25/04/2023 21:21

MrBit · 25/04/2023 21:09

I'm questioning why Holly wants to be bezzy mates with Alison
Could it be tactical? Hmm

I don't know. I assumed that HW would be very snobby towards her when they presented together a few weeks ago, but she seemed to be genuinely lovely and respectful towards her.

I don't think it was an act because she isn't a very good actress. I can tell that she really tries to act as if she likes PS, but her face and body language gives her away.

I remember once when Stephen Malhern was on TM and Holly was reminising about working with him and how much she enjoyed it and what a laugh they had together. PS acted like a jealous boyfriend and cut in to stop her talking. She was so shocked.

MrBit · 25/04/2023 21:09

IMustDoMoreExercise · 25/04/2023 14:19

I hope PS leaves soon and Holly and Alison are the main presenters together.

I'm questioning why Holly wants to be bezzy mates with Alison
Could it be tactical? Hmm

IMustDoMoreExercise · 25/04/2023 14:19

I hope PS leaves soon and Holly and Alison are the main presenters together.

PenelopeTitsDrop3121 · 25/04/2023 14:06

All this illegal watching TV talk is boring!!

PS is looking even more smug,if that's even possible. He really is untouchable isn't he? 😡

Housewivesarguingagain · 25/04/2023 14:02

*Uk tv

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Housewivesarguingagain · 25/04/2023 14:01

@Coolhwip Why are you so concerned about this…wow..🙈
I pay to use a tv service that provides U.K. it’s not illegal, nothing about it is, it’s via the internet, I don’t know the ins and outs, but it’s legit and legal and ok.

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OliveOilly · 25/04/2023 12:53

Do people seriously worry about this?

I've never watched daytime telly in my life.

AndyandTeddyarewavinggoodbye · 25/04/2023 12:51

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:24

So why not ask OP to clarify how she is watching before posting?

You probably come to the UK to steal healthcare from the NHS too.

I don't need the OP to clarify anything. Why would I?

You are the one that said it is illegal to watch UK TV outside of the UK.

As @SirTarquin has clarified, there certainly are issues if you use a vpn and there are some "questionable" streaming services out there.

I don't use a vpn, I access UK programmes via a satellite which is totally legal

You probably come to the UK to steal healthcare from the NHS too

No, I use the French healthcare system, have a carte vitale and pay every time I visit the doctor. Would you like my receipt from last weeks visit, or would you like to continue accusing me of being a thief?

AwaaFaeHom · 25/04/2023 12:37

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:04

No it doesn’t. You have ZERO idea what you’re on about. Piracy can include watching things live. So much ignorance.

I should have been more specific - watching things live via the original broadcaster is not piracy.

SirTarquin · 25/04/2023 12:28

If you are in Country A watching broadcasts from Channel B in Country B may be legal or it may not be.

It totally depends on how you are accessing it and whether your form of access is within the terms and condition of Channel B or a licensee of Channel B.

It is possible for it to be illegal though.

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:28

@SirTarquin thanks, well explained.

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:24

AndyandTeddyarewavinggoodbye · 25/04/2023 12:13

I haven't assumed anything.
But I know how I am watching here in France.
It is via satellite.
I have already said upthread that some people use a decoder box.
Either way it is totally legal.

Maybe you could start a petition to get the totally legal Astra satellite removed from space and tell those naughty UK (other countries are available) channels to stop using it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

So why not ask OP to clarify how she is watching before posting?

You probably come to the UK to steal healthcare from the NHS too.

SirTarquin · 25/04/2023 12:24

It makes no sense for it to be illegal. Why do you think that it is?

It makes no sense for a country to legislate against people watching TV from other countries. They have no skin in the game. They are not losing anything by people watching TV produced in other countries.

@AwaaFaeHom

I can tell you why it is illegal - or at least maybe. It's to do with copyright law and the way it works internationally.

Intellectual property rights (copyright, trade marks, broadcasting rights) operate on a territorial basis - ie. country by country. There are some exceptions where you have groups of countries - most notably the European Union where (eg) you can register a European trade mark.

This mean rights are sold and licenced on a country by country basis. This is because of international agreements about copyright and intellectual property law.

So if you write a book, the agent will sell publishing licencing rights separately for the UK, Europe, the USA, China etc. The same is true if you make a film, it would be licenced territory by territory. Broadcasting is also treated in this way.

The BBC will buy a licence to broadcast The Polar Express at Christmas in England & Wales for example. If you illegally access the channel using a VPN in a territory other than England & Wales, you are knowingly receiving the broadcast unlawfully - because you are outside the territory for which it is licenced.

Television programmes are copyright works that the owners have rights in. It is up to them whether and on what terms they want to sell the rights to other territories to show them - but it's their property so they can set the terms of that and how much the foreign licensee should pay them.

The same is true of broadcasting rights which are territorially paid for. The position became worse in the UK post -Brexit.

You are wrong then when you say they are not losing anything because they are - they are losing control of their property and the rights that go with licencing territory by territory.

Copyright infringement is unlawful and a criminal offence in some circumstances.

The question is whether the access is in breach of the terms and conditions of the channel you are accessing.

Here are some links that explain more about this in principle from a UK perspective but similar rules tend to be applied every where becuase of international agreements:

From 1 January 2021, it became an offence to use satellite broadcast decoders, intended for EU audiences, to access programmes in broadcasts from the UK with the intention of avoiding charges for them

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/use-of-satellite-decoder-cards-intended-for-eu-audiences

whilst using a Virtual Private Network (or VPN) to add extra security to your online data is perfectly legal – it is illegal to use a VPN to unlock content that is specifically not available within your own country.

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/keeping-safe/online-safety/streaming-online-know-the-risks

The Federation Against Copyright Theft, which acts for the Premier League, SKY, and BT Sport, came up with a solution – Section 11 of the Fraud Act 2006, which criminalizes the act of obtaining any kind of service dishonestly.

https://torrentfreak.com/watching-pirate-streams-in-the-uk-is-illegal-risk-of-prosecution-minimal-230129/

Use of satellite decoder cards intended for EU audiences

Customers must no longer access programmes via EU satellite broadcasting services to avoid a charge for a UK service.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/use-of-satellite-decoder-cards-intended-for-eu-audiences

AndyandTeddyarewavinggoodbye · 25/04/2023 12:13

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:04

You don’t know how she is watching. Why have you assumed satellite?

I haven't assumed anything.
But I know how I am watching here in France.
It is via satellite.
I have already said upthread that some people use a decoder box.
Either way it is totally legal.

Maybe you could start a petition to get the totally legal Astra satellite removed from space and tell those naughty UK (other countries are available) channels to stop using it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

Astra 19.2°E - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:06

AwaaFaeHom · 25/04/2023 09:59

So you can't answer why you think it's illegal. I can justify my assertion though.

It makes no sense for a country to legislate against people watching TV from other countries. They have no skin in the game. They are not losing anything by people watching TV produced in other countries.

Are you for real? Of course they have skin the in the game. Companies will try to monetise the content by distributing it through LEGAL means.

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:04

AwaaFaeHom · 25/04/2023 10:01

Oh and fyi - pirating content regards specifically to copies/recordings. Not to watching things live.

No it doesn’t. You have ZERO idea what you’re on about. Piracy can include watching things live. So much ignorance.

Coolhwip · 25/04/2023 12:04

AndyandTeddyarewavinggoodbye · 25/04/2023 09:37

@Coolhwip

The link you have provided is for ITVhub which is a catch up service. Nothing to do with watching ITV (or any other channel) "live".

There is no such legislation around watching live TV via satellite or a decoder so stop telling people that it is illegal/pirating when it isn't.

You don’t know how she is watching. Why have you assumed satellite?

AwaaFaeHom · 25/04/2023 10:01

Oh and fyi - pirating content regards specifically to copies/recordings. Not to watching things live.

AwaaFaeHom · 25/04/2023 09:59

So you can't answer why you think it's illegal. I can justify my assertion though.

It makes no sense for a country to legislate against people watching TV from other countries. They have no skin in the game. They are not losing anything by people watching TV produced in other countries.