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Holiday accommodation & DD

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PotsAndDishes · 17/04/2023 13:03

Before I roll out my picnic blanket to sit on the proverbial hill I’m choosing to metaphorically die on, AIBU?

We’re going away on holiday with extended family in June. Accommodation is a large villa with additional connected apartments, but with separate entrances. There’s also a pool which is unfenced. Current proposal is that those with young kids (<3) take the apartments, thus ring fencing the kerfuffle at 6:30am when they all wake up, and letting those in the main house get a bit of a holiday lie in.

I have said, OK, makes sense but obviously either DH or I will effectively go to bed with DD (2) each night because I don’t want to leave her by herself in a different building (separate entrances) with potential hazards around (unfenced pool, one apt is up stone steps with a balcony, what if the air con catches fire).

According to the in-laws, I’m being TOTALLY unreasonable, PFB-esque, nothing will happen to her, just lock all of the doors so she can’t get out, it’s no different to her being asleep upstairs in the house, I’m creating a rod for my own back, just whack on a baby monitor, blah blah blah.

So, AIBU? Should I chill out, take the monitor, hope it stretches and enjoy my evenings in the main villa?
Or AINBU and leaving a 2 year old asleep locked in a different building isn’t really OK?

OP posts:
niugboo · 18/04/2023 11:31

How would this be improved in the main villa?

PotsAndDishes · 18/04/2023 11:26

I really don’t feel like I’ve specifically martyred myself to the cause, but a simple off the cuff remark of “OK, DH & I can share the evenings with DD when she’s in bed” resulted in a huge fuss of why am I’m being precious, I’m ruining the holiday for myself, making a rod for my own back, etc. Even roping in the parents of another DC who stated they will be doing it because they “don’t spoil their kids” 🤨

I’m genuinely happy to go to bed early some days, happy to put DD to sleep in the main area other evenings & carry her across. No skin off anyone else’s nose, right? However it seems like the only outcome which is acceptable to them is making me change my mind and leave her to sleep in the apartment alone every evening, which I’m not willing to do and it appears I’m not hugely unreasonable in thinking this.

I have quite a long fuse but at some point, I am going to have to reply with something along the lines of “look, can you all just SOD OFF”. Because if they don’t go “OK, it’s your choice” at some point, I might be forced to bring some of our Easter chocolate stash, give a little bit to DD every evening and see how much they enjoy having a toddler on a sugar high running round excitedly at 10pm. She’d be delighted to be allowed to stay up late with the big girls & boys.

As my old colleague would say, it’s becoming as annoying as having a cat hanging off your balls.

OP posts:
THEDEACON · 18/04/2023 11:25

No way would I leave a child in another building remind the grandparents of theadeline situation

Beseen22 · 18/04/2023 11:18

If the family is a little overbearing I'd happily put the kids down and stay with them and enjoy some chill time deadscrolling on my phone. I think the only way to deal with a family holiday without coming home deranged is to schedule a bit of time away from each other.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 18/04/2023 11:08

Surely better for those with small kids to be in the villa as they can go upstairs to bed but there is plenty social space for everyone in the apartments to come and eat and socialise in the evenings?

Theturtlethatcried · 18/04/2023 11:08

Blossomtoes · 18/04/2023 10:59

Not really if they’re paying the majority of the cost. And if you go on a big family holiday there obviously has to be negotiation on accommodation allocation.

Accommodation allocation yes obviously it’s a discussion and people can expect to have input. But my in-laws could give me £1m, they’d still get no say or opinion whatsoever on how I chose to keep my toddler safe within the accommodation that’s been agreed.

marseille · 18/04/2023 11:06

Will your DD definitely not just fall asleep after a days swimming in her stroller, or a lounge in the villa? Then just carry her to bed. I've done that heaps of times. Kids get tired on holidays. Just put her in pj's before you head out for dinner.

SVRT19674 · 18/04/2023 11:06

There is no way i would do that with my daughter and she is 4. She wakes up in the night and calls for a wee etc and when she was still in nappies she would call for water, I want to be near for eventualities. I don´t think much of Madeleine scenarios, but the pool gives me the heebie jeebies, such a risk. I know someone whose daughter died in the family pool years ago. Not worth the risk.

Viviennemary · 18/04/2023 11:06

I don't think I would go on such a holiday set up. Pools with a lot of small chikdren are highly dangerous.

Pipsquiggle · 18/04/2023 11:04

This villa and apartments building sounds amazing - it would be great if you could share the details if you can.

I think plan for the worst, hope for the best.

It sounds like you can't really assess what you can do until you're there. You might be completely happy with putting your child to bed and then popping back next door with a baby monitor.

Would your preference be that you're in the main villa? The only problem with that is that the entire villa will wake when the first DC gets up - that's not great for anyone.

isitshe · 18/04/2023 10:59

I just read the OP but oh my god, they expect you to lock her, in, in a strange place?? That's mad. Poor wee thing!
Let them judge you all they like, eff what they think or say to you OP, She's a baby. Your baby.

Blossomtoes · 18/04/2023 10:59

FrenchandSaunders · 18/04/2023 10:44

Your in laws need to reign their necks in ..... it's up to and DH to decide what you are comfortable with regarding YOUR DD. None of their business.

Not really if they’re paying the majority of the cost. And if you go on a big family holiday there obviously has to be negotiation on accommodation allocation.

7eleven · 18/04/2023 10:50

You’re caring too much about what they think. Your child, your rules.

Ginseng1 · 18/04/2023 10:49

We had this when we went with friends to a villa & we slept with DS age 1 in a room next door in a different building. We'd pop him to sleep in friends room in small travel cot & literally move him & cot over to our room when we going to bed. He was a sound sleeper but early waker! Our friends DD wud wake at the slightest thing which is why we agreed they sleep main house.

But I'd say don't make a fuss right now & when time comes just do what you need to & others probably won't even notice!

Ohrwurm · 18/04/2023 10:46

My son is 2.9 years and I'd not do this. Yanbu. Aside from the danger, sometimes DS still wakes, sits up and calls for us. Doesn't happen a lot anymore but I'd want to be close if it did.

I'd probably also be quite happy to have the evenings to myself anyway😅

FrenchandSaunders · 18/04/2023 10:44

Your in laws need to reign their necks in ..... it's up to and DH to decide what you are comfortable with regarding YOUR DD. None of their business.

EyesOnThePies · 18/04/2023 10:37

I think it would depend on the exact layout and what you are all doing.

Won’t you be out on the terrace, outdoors, in the evenings? If your apartment opens out on to the communal areas in the same way that the house does, and has no doors out on to the street I would be as OK with my child in the apartment as I would in the villa.

Also, you might want to go to bed earlier than Uncle Eric and value peace after 11pm.

I think on hol you have to expect some change in routine, and I would go with 2 year old drops to sleep in the villa and you carry her over later. Mine slept in pushchairs in restaurants til almost 4. We did put sunglasses on them to keep out the light 😂

Binfluencer · 18/04/2023 10:33

Sounds ideal, you if it were me I'd go with her every night and have a lovely peacefully eve away from meddling in laws!!

Sugarfree23 · 18/04/2023 10:31

Op how much time do you ACTUALLY want to spend with your ILs?

I'd probably be glad of being able to escape and get some time to myself. See how it goes she might sleep that you can carry her to the villa, you might be glad of being able to escape.

I can see the logic in the 3 young families being in the main villa and all getting a long like a John Lewis Christmas Advert. But life's not like that, kids might keep each other up, routines will clash etc

Reality having your own space, your own fridge, might be the better option esp when the ILs get on your nerves.

Ineedtoloseweightnow · 18/04/2023 10:30

Madeline McCann, not a chance I would do that!

Apairofsparklingeyes · 18/04/2023 10:25

I wouldn’t be staying anywhere with a toddler that had an unfenced pool! As the sleeping arrangements are also unsuitable, I’d be wanting to arrange to stay somewhere else nearby.

emptythelitterbox · 18/04/2023 10:17

That holiday sounds like hell.

Can you opt out and do something you truly want to do?

Climbles · 18/04/2023 10:12

What if there was a fire or a break in? There’s no way id leave them alone in a separate building. Uncle Eric just wants the main villa because it’s the nicest bit.

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/04/2023 10:10

Theturtlethatcried · Yesterday 13:46
Why can’t those who want lie ins go in the apartments? Seems far more sensible.

But otherwise I’d be joining you there on your hill with a picnic basket - mine are now primary age but they’d be alone asleep in a separate locked building abroad over my dead body, baby monitor or not”

This.

Pushmepullu · 18/04/2023 10:07

Why is it anyone else’s business what you decide you are comfortable doing with your own child? Stop discussing it then when you get there you do what you see fit.

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