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Don't want to do nude selfies for my DH

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Ralphiesaurus · 06/04/2023 08:58

So... long history of this. I won't bore you all but my DH has always had a thing about sexting and nude pics etc (to be clear - with me!). I hate it. There is a bit of an odd dynamic in our relationship, with him having had to give up work years ago because of a disability and at one point me really resenting a massive commute (no chance of us moving nearer to my work, oh no...) and also being furious that he would pester and pester and pester me for sexts on my train journeys.

Anyway, lots of other stuff - coercive stuff around sex, really unhealthy - and back in 2016 I actually ended up exploring getting a divorce. Selfishly, though, when my solicitor told me I'd be unlikely to get a clean break, and would have to pay him maintenance for life, I backed out and decided to try to fix things as best I could. At the time I was drinking quite a bit (but never missed work or anything) and he threatened to use my "alcoholism" against me in the divorce to make sure I wouldn't get custody of "his" (our) children.

So now he does what chores he can manage (he used to do nothing) and we rub along ok. And I gave up alcohol completely almost four years ago, so there's that.

Anyway, I am on a short break away with my eldest DD (for uni) and my DH kept on and on and ON at me for a nude pic. I almost did it this morning and then something in me rebelled and I said "no". He is now furious!!

I know everyone will likely say "LTB" - esp as my children are now much older - 14 and almost 18 - but the lawyer I saw that time made it sound so clear that I would have to support him - forever - as he can't work. And I can't stomach that.

FFS how did I get into such a dreadful mess? I was a totally committed feminist in my younger days and yet this has crept up on me.

And the worst of it? I feel bad for standing up for myself!!! 😮WTF is that all about?! AIBU to expect him to understand that I hate taking pics of myself (full stop - but especially) naked?

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herewegoroundthebastardbush · 06/04/2023 10:28

Ralphiesaurus · 06/04/2023 08:58

So... long history of this. I won't bore you all but my DH has always had a thing about sexting and nude pics etc (to be clear - with me!). I hate it. There is a bit of an odd dynamic in our relationship, with him having had to give up work years ago because of a disability and at one point me really resenting a massive commute (no chance of us moving nearer to my work, oh no...) and also being furious that he would pester and pester and pester me for sexts on my train journeys.

Anyway, lots of other stuff - coercive stuff around sex, really unhealthy - and back in 2016 I actually ended up exploring getting a divorce. Selfishly, though, when my solicitor told me I'd be unlikely to get a clean break, and would have to pay him maintenance for life, I backed out and decided to try to fix things as best I could. At the time I was drinking quite a bit (but never missed work or anything) and he threatened to use my "alcoholism" against me in the divorce to make sure I wouldn't get custody of "his" (our) children.

So now he does what chores he can manage (he used to do nothing) and we rub along ok. And I gave up alcohol completely almost four years ago, so there's that.

Anyway, I am on a short break away with my eldest DD (for uni) and my DH kept on and on and ON at me for a nude pic. I almost did it this morning and then something in me rebelled and I said "no". He is now furious!!

I know everyone will likely say "LTB" - esp as my children are now much older - 14 and almost 18 - but the lawyer I saw that time made it sound so clear that I would have to support him - forever - as he can't work. And I can't stomach that.

FFS how did I get into such a dreadful mess? I was a totally committed feminist in my younger days and yet this has crept up on me.

And the worst of it? I feel bad for standing up for myself!!! 😮WTF is that all about?! AIBU to expect him to understand that I hate taking pics of myself (full stop - but especially) naked?

OP I don't want to alarm you but the fact he has a fetish for this and the fact he is so persistent, makes me worry he might be one of these guys "trading" images/video of their partners without their knowledge. So he may not want the images for his own "consumption", but to share online with other men who will then share their own "private" collection with him. This behaviour is incredibly addictive and it happens more than you might think, not just among teens - I have a friend whose pensioner relative was taking sexual pictures of his wife without her knowledge and sharing online. Please protect yourself.

upwefly · 06/04/2023 10:27

In the short term, block him on your phone (when he acts like this) if he is literally pestering you like that treat him like any other pest. Long term, I really would seek alternative advice, that just sounds miserable op.

Inertia · 06/04/2023 10:25

I suspect he’s demanding the pictures and messages in order to blackmail you if you try to leave.

You need legal advice, and should consider seeking support from women’s aid groups too.

His behaviour is coercive, and demanding you send naked pictures while he knows you are away with your teenage daughter is utterly nauseating.

pinkyredrose · 06/04/2023 10:25

He's coercive around sex! Has he/does he make you do things you don't want to do?

Please put yourself first. Get a new solicitor. There's no way you'd be expected to financially support him . You need to leave for your own sanity.

What's your housing situation, in both names/joint?

Lovelyring · 06/04/2023 10:23

Ps I don't think you're unreasonable for not wanting to send nudes. I did a boudoir photo shoot and loved it but wouldn't send selfie nudes - so unflattering regardless of the danger of them being shared etc! And that's with a DH I love.

Itsbytheby · 06/04/2023 10:22

Gross. I cannot imagine how put off I would be if DH did this while I was away with my DC. I wouldn't go back. Leave op, there is literally nothing to be gained by staying.

PrettyMaybug · 06/04/2023 10:22

@Ralphiesaurus

I know you said don't say LTB, but this really is a situation where you really need to. He's toxic, and controlling, and narcissistic, and borderline sociopathic. You really need to get your ducks in a row and start finding a way to get out of this relationship. It will destroy you.

I know people have different opinions on this, but there's no way in a million years that I would do any nude selfies or nude photographs for anybody. Nope. Not even my husband of 25 years plus. Never have, never would. You might say, 'if you had trust you would do it...' But I'm sorry, I don't trust anybody 100%, not even my husband. I trust him 99%, but what if we fell out or split up? How do I know he won't share the photos? If someone is hurt and angry and upset, they are capable of ANYthing.

PLUS, I know someone who showed my DH a photo the other day on his phone (at the pub - an acquaintance of his,) of a work colleague's wife. (The work colleague had sent it to this acquaintance of DH's.) She was totally naked, and blindfolded on the bed, with her legs open, everything showing, boobs, vulva, everything, and this man had taken a photo of her.

She knew he was taking it and believed it was just for HIS titillation, and here he is sending it to work colleagues, who are sending it to other men they know, who are showing it to other men in the pub. At LEAST half a dozen men have it now, and many more have seen it. This man in the pub asked if my DH wanted him to send it to him. He said 'no I fucking don't. I don't want some other man's wife's vulva on my phone ta...!' You can't trust anyone. Not 100%. Nope. Not even your husband/partner.

Lovelyring · 06/04/2023 10:22

I don't understand your logic for not leaving. Surely whether you stay or leave you'll be supporting him forever? But if you stay you also have to spend more time with him.

MeMyBooksAndMyCats · 06/04/2023 10:21

Why would you support him? You didn't cause his disabilities.

As for the nudes 🤮 I'd have to block him until I got home.

Middletoleft · 06/04/2023 10:19

Why would you have to support him. Spousal support doesn't exist unless you're extremely well off and he raised the children to support your career , does it?

workinprog · 06/04/2023 10:18

Don't send nudes. If you get divorced and he gets angry he could post them anywhere.

cordelia16 · 06/04/2023 10:15

Maddy128 · 06/04/2023 09:14

So if you leave you’ll be financially obligated to him. But if you don’t leave you’ll still be financially obligated to him and have to send him sexy photos against your will. It really does seem like leaving would be the better option. Even if you have to give him money, consider it your future happiness tax?

This is exactly my thinking.

caringcarer · 06/04/2023 10:08

Things have changed over time OP. I don't think you'd be expected to maintain him for life because he could claim benefits. Much more likely a clean break. You'd probably have to share your pension though. Your kids are almost grown so you should be fine. He sounds a nasty little bully demanding nude pics of you. How do you know he does not share them online or swap pics of you for other pics? I'd be checking his phone if I could get in.

Change2banon · 06/04/2023 10:06

Don’t send nudes - he’ll use them against you at some point.
Get a good solicitor and LTB.

rainbowstardrops · 06/04/2023 10:05

He sounds vile.

MuddledMindy · 06/04/2023 10:04

Why the hell would you want to stay married to an abusive creep like that?

pensionconfusion · 06/04/2023 10:01

See another solicitor and keep the texts emails that he sends asking you to send pics. Also make sure in the texts you say no every time and use this against him in your divorce. He could be prosecuted for it if you want to.

Don't put up with this abuse any longer.

As another poster said she is paying off her exes debt, so am I, but it's worth the split.

A good lawyer will help you. Shop around.

Wedoronron · 06/04/2023 09:59

If the first solicitor was right then your choices are:

  1. Stay with him (supporting him forever as I assume you pay for most things, having to put up with his vileness, living in a repressed state, teaching your daughters that this is fine)
  2. Leave him(supporting him forever, but free and away from his vileness, you never have to see him again apart from maybe a wedding or two, no more sex pest, no more moods).

I genuinely can only see one option.

CwmYoy · 06/04/2023 09:58

Get rid

Finalstar · 06/04/2023 09:57

God he sounds utterly grim.

Divorce him. Get a good solicitor, push for a clean break. Spousal is highly unlikely unless you are a very high earner.

cupofteaandabiccyplease · 06/04/2023 09:53

Another saying get rid of him, you deserve so much better.
Reason 362 to never send nude pics to dp or dh you never know what might happen in the future.

Furrydogmum · 06/04/2023 09:52

Try a different solicitor for a start, but also make sure he hasn't saved your naked selfies etc!

Velvian · 06/04/2023 09:51

Sexual coercion is repugnant. You're already financially supporting him. I'm sure that anything you would be expected to pay would be significantly lower.

LTB. your youngest is 14 now, he doesn't have the threat of taking the children away anymore.

Nothingbuttheglory · 06/04/2023 09:50

Schleep · 06/04/2023 09:24

Not to add negativity to the situation, but before you action anything you may want to try and delete any photos he has of you stored on his personal devices.
He sounds like the type to use those against you if things don't go his way

While this would be horrible, it would also be very illegal of him.

Nothingbuttheglory · 06/04/2023 09:48

He's sexually abusing you. And coercive control like pp said. See another solicitor, look at Women's Aid for advice/Freedom Programme etc.

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